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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:09 PM
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Anyone see Dan Abrams tonight
When talking about the GOP and there race baiting of Obama. This Buchanan guy just seems to not want to talk about racism in this campaign he always has an excuse. his excuse tonight was UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! saying that the race issue is liberal hysteria
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:10 PM
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1. Anyone familiar with Buchanan's history will not find this surprising. . n/t
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:12 PM
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4. why is he a full time political analysis on MSNBC with his views.
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:04 AM
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13. He's not a full time political analysis [sic].
He's a full-time Conservative hypocritical hate-monger that is currently employed.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:11 PM
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2. He's a fucker.
Him being on TV makes MSNBC a racist organization, IMO.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:11 PM
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3. Dude, Buchanan has been a racist forever....

"Buchanan once heard King speak at a Baptist church in north St. Louis in 1962.<91> He claims King accused the 1964 Goldwater presidential campaign of, "dangerous signs of Hitlerism."<92> Buchanan urged Nixon not to visit King's widow Coretta Scott King in 1969, because, "It would outrage many, many people who believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue, and perhaps worse. ... It does not seem to be in the interests of national unity for the president to lend his national prestige to the argument that this divisive figure is a modern saint."<93> He opposed making King's birthday a national holiday.

In a 2000 public radio interview, Buchanan said King was a divisive figure.<94>"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan#Racial_Issues
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:13 PM
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5. seriously
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 09:14 PM by ErinBerin84
Sometimes I feel like the Democratic strategists who are put up against Buchanan are under strict instructions to treat him with kid gloves. I would fucking explode against that guy! "Like how you supported the idea of the GOP passing out stickers to quote on quote "ghettos" advocating for African American presidents or vice presidents in the 70s, in order to specifically exploit racial tensions within the democratic party, when you were that criminal Nixon's little monkey boy?!"
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:14 PM
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6. I'm just waiting for Pat to show up for work some evening
still wearing his white sheet and pointy hood that he forgot to take off after the Klan meeting.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:19 PM
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7. Pat has been pretty cranky lately
I think he knows that this election is the death knell for modern conservatism.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:23 PM
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9. Pat's the only political commentator I know with 3 octaves; tonight he reached two of 'em.
I want to be watching when the set shatters...
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:29 PM
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10. I agree.
He said tonight that everyone is laughing at the idea that congress will compel Karl Rove to come and testify. He said Rove should just hang the subpoena on the wall, framed, because the Judiciary Committee is too weak to compel testimony.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:21 PM
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8. I dream one day of Rachel Maddow writing a tell-all book
about all of the fuckers at MSNBC she has to deal with.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 09:38 PM
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11. Some Obama supporters cried wolf too much.
There is some real racism in this campaign. The sock puppets, the buttons about calling it the White House, etc. Many have been immunized somewhat against it because some of the early Obama supporters assigning every single utterance about him as being racially motivated. I remember posts where someone called Obama an "empty suit" and there were lots of comments about how racist that was.

With people throwing around the term so much, unfortuantely it causes it to lose its punch when real racism surfaces like it has recently. There *is* a level of hysteria about it (hysteria is construed to be a sexist term by more than a few people, btw).
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:46 PM
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12. Is this by any chance the same Pat Buchanan I heard
look into the camera and say a few years ago - the terrorists would outnumber Americans in the not too distant future because American women were aloud to have abortions while the women of the "enemy" were popping out babies as fast and furiously as they could.

Was it that Pat Buchanan you speak of?

Sam
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:09 AM
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14. Hal Turner + Pat Buchanan = White Supremacist
Turner parlayed this fame into a role as the northern New Jersey coordinator for Patrick J. Buchanan's 1992 presidential campaign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner

In February, the Center for Public Integrity issued a report claiming Buchanan's presidential campaign co-chairman, Larry Pratt, appeared at two meetings organized by white supremacist and militia leaders. Pratt denied any tie to racism, calling the report an orchestrated smear before the New Hampshire primary. Buchanan told the Manchester Union Leader he believed Pratt. Pratt took a leave of absence "to answer these charges," "so as not to have distraction in the campaign."

He ran on a platform of economic nationalism, immigration reduction, and social conservatism, including opposition to multiculturalism, abortion, and gay rights. Buchanan seriously challenged Bush (whose popularity was waning) when he won 38 percent of the seminal New Hampshire primary. In the primary elections, Buchanan garnered three million total votes.

Buchanan later threw his support behind Bush, and delivered a keynote address at the 1992 Republican National Convention, which became known as the culture war speech, in which he described "a religious war going on in our country for the soul of America." In the speech, he said of Bill and Hillary Clinton:

The agenda Clinton & Clinton would impose on America--abortion on demand, a litmus test for the Supreme Court, homosexual rights, discrimination against religious schools, women in combat units--that's change, all right. But it is not the kind of change America needs. It is not the kind of change America wants. And it is not the kind of change we can abide in a nation we still call God's country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Buchanan


Pat Buchanan hasn't changed much. He just tries to hide it more these days.




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