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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:13 PM
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ABC: 2008 Bush v. Kerry 2004 rematch?
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 09:14 PM by RMP2008
Except this time the roles are reversed:)

From ABC:

Maybe we had it wrong from the start: It's Barack Obama who is running for George Bush's third term, while John McCain just might be pursuing John Kerry's first.

Not on policy, of course (not that Team McCain would much mind that perception these days). But in approach, in temperament, in stability, in take-no-prisoners mindset -- inside which campaign would Karl Rove recognize a piece of himself?

In rejecting public financing, it's possible that Barack Obama is running for George Bush's third term, while John McCain might be pursuing John Kerry's first.In the one with tightly controlled access, the jugular-aiming (drama-free) political shop, and the temerity to cast aside a fundraising pledge en route to breaking all campaign-finance records?

Or the one with rolling press conferences, scattershot messaging (with missed zingers), and complaints about the other side not playing fair?

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=3105288&page=1

Senator Obama knows how to win and I am VERY grateful for that.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:18 PM
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1. Same old insulting MSM BS and distortion
Feel the disappointment from friendly ed boards. The Boston Globe: "Senator Barack Obama has presented himself as the candidate of change, but the change he announced yesterday is a throwback to the no-holds-barred rules of campaign finance that prevailed before Watergate."

The Washington Post: "Mr. Obama had an opportunity here to demonstrate that he really is a different kind of politician, willing to put principles and the promises he has made above political calculation. He made a different choice, and anyone can understand why: He's going to raise a ton of money."

This plays into the decision-making, too: "The Obama team is also certain that McCain -- who like Obama portrays himself as a man running against the Washington system -- but who was a central figure in the landmark McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform law -- has enough lapses himself to tarnish his image," Lynn Sweet writes in the Chicago Sun-Times.

"According to aides, Mr. Obama reached his decision knowing he might tarnish his desired reformist image -- he pledged last year to accept public financing if his opponent did as well -- but strategists for the campaign made the calculation that it was worth it, in part, because of the potential for the Republican National Committee to seriously out-raise its Democratic counterpart," Michael Luo and Jeff Zeleny write in The New York Times.


Bush as winner? Yeah, voter suppression and election tampering is a sure winner.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:50 PM
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4. Can I get the link for that WAPO editorial? Thanks.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:56 PM
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5. It's posted
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:44 PM
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2. There is no way that Obama is BUSH
and there is no way that McCain could come close to being John Kerry. He would need an integrity implant and at least 100 IQ points.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:49 PM
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3. More ABC tripe
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 09:49 PM by Zodiak Ironfist
Man, this company is doing anything it can, isn't it?

All pissed off because they were looking forward to raking in millions running swiftboat ads and winning, and now they are going to lose their secret weapon's effectiveness.

Obama is going to raise millions from regular people, not "pioneers"....big, GIANT difference.

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Swingstater Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:58 PM
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6. ABC story is trying to say Bush's temperament was better than Kerry's
I disagree with that. The media was just in the tank for him.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:20 PM
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7. I guess they forgot that Bushs staff was afraid to tell him about New Orleans
Kerry is a far nicer, calmer more considerate person. Bush has an enemies list - Kerry forgave Nixon and evn shook his hand - knowing that Nixon and his people called for destroying him as a 27 year old vet
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:24 PM
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8. Ya, America will really buy the fact that it's Obama running for Bush's third term and not McCain
:rofl:

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:49 PM
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9. The media is determined to rewrite history.
They should spend as much time analyzing the flawed 2004 election as they do trying to make Bush, who was selected to the WH in 2000 and is now the world-despised, worse president in history, out to be a winner.

The media today seem to forget that in a election where more than 121 million people voted and Kerry got 59 million votes to Bush's 62 million, a less than 2.5 % margin, 2004 was an extremely close election. That something when you consider the terror alerts, swiftboating and media complicity, and the rest.


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