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Dems to Win Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:31 AM
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Bob Kerrey for VP
Former Nebraska Governor and Senator Bob Kerrey is a straight-talking maverick, with military experience. He was my favorite in the 1992 primary, because he was going to stand up to the insurance companies to achieve Universal Health Care.

I think he could be a great VP choice. Any thoughts?

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:38 AM
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1. he made those comments about Obama attending madrassas
and other things during the Primary. Obama probably isn't even considering him.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:39 AM
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2. That's the first thing I thought of too.
Kerrey was out of line there.

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Dems to Win Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:44 AM
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6. I had not heard about these comments, I'll have to look into them.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:40 AM
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3. Highly vulnerable.
You think the John Kerry Swiftboating was bad, wait til you see what they can do to Bob over the circumstances of some of his actions in VN, including the stuff that ended up in his getting the Medal of Honor.
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Dems to Win Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:43 AM
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5. GRRRRR. You may be right, but it makes me mad.
Swiftboating over a Medal of Honor? They couldn't get much lower.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 08:20 AM
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28. It is not swiftboating
and it was not over the event for which he got the medal of honor. It was an atrocity, but likely one as much due to the fog of war and fear than with disregard for the Vietnamese.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:41 AM
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4. Why? Maverick? Straight-talking? Sure. And Why? nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:48 AM
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7. Here's a start on why not.
http://www.counterpunch.org/valentine.html

Bob Kerrey, CIA War Crimes,
And The Need For A War Crimes Trial

by Douglas Valentine

By now everybody knows that former Senator Bob Kerrey led a seven-member team of Navy Seals into Thanh Phong village in February 1969, and murdered in cold blood more than a dozen women and children.

What hardly anyone knows, and what no one in the press is talking about (although many of them know), is that Kerrey was on a CIA mission, and its specific purpose was to kill those women and children. It was illegal, premeditated mass murder and it was a war crime.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:51 AM
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8. Oh yeah...that's not going to work.
I remember this.

Was a sad revelation. :(
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:54 AM
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10. Hold on. I love Nelson (?) DeMille's story about VN, but who really
gives a poop about this?

Now there's a thread that someone should take advantage of. What did this admin do that they might have avoided if they had read some history? Heh. I might ask that question.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:01 AM
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14. Why does everyone assume that the current Admin made a mistake?
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 02:22 AM by Jackpine Radical
I assume that they got what they wanted--a long, costly war from which they have profited immensely.

I seem to be the only person around who rates the Bushies as an unqualified success, at least within their own terms.


Mission accomplished? Hell, yes!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:03 AM
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16. I hear you, but it SUCKS, and he's an unqualifed asshole. The
whole world knows it, and they are looking towards the future, as I am.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:23 AM
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18. Most people in the world are sane and in touch with reality.
As are you.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:59 AM
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13. Here's a thought I read recently.
Kerry and others posited the position that McCain may not feel the same things they did because they were in different situations. McCain was a POW, they weren't and were fighting against this war, while McCain wasn't because of his position/situation.
This is not the first time I've put this out there, but it makes perfect sense to me.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:21 AM
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17. That is quite right.
People who are in helpless situations, be it car accidents or POW circumstances, are likely to get PTSD symptoms. Those who are actively engaged in fighting back do not.

I think there is a moral there for us all somewhere.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:03 PM
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33. There's that ..
too. I don't like him.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:52 AM
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9. The Hillary endorser who mused aloud about "Hussein" and madrassas--
and then was never heard from again after his "suicide run" to officially inject the Muslim whispers into the primaries? (The same way Geraldine Ferraro was used to inject "affirmative-action candidate"--another suicide run on Hillary's behalf.) Er, no.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:56 AM
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11. Picky,
picky, picky.

Seriously, Kerrey has just been torpedoed from 6 directions in the first 6 or so posts on this thread. I don't think he's going anywhere.

That's what I love about DU. Fast, sharp.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 01:59 AM
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12. LOL! We can be disturbingly cold-blooded and efficient here at times.
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:03 AM
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15. No.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:25 AM
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20. Yeah. We know.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:24 AM
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19. No
Nobody that was a member of The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq should be Obama's VP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_for_the_Liberation_of_Iraq
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Dems to Win Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:30 AM
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21. I asked for your thoughts, and got them. Thank you!
Ah well, have to look for other out-of-the-box ideas for VP.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:37 AM
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22. That's what this place does.
Gives you more to think about than you ever wanted on your plate.

Hang around. Something tells me you're one of us.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:01 AM
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23. The dude is more of a Lieberman Dem than a Feingold Dem.
Nuff said.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:30 AM
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24. He was a vocal Clinton supporter. KERRY should have chosen him for VP all vet ticket. nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 08:17 AM
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27. Kerrey was actually a person who had
numerous public disagreements with Bill Clinton.

As to putting him with Kerry - there is the first problem that it would have sent the late night comedians into endless jokes - as their names sound the same. Not to mention it would be said to be the man who spoke against war crimes with a man who committed them (whether that designation is fair or not. Not to mention they had very different foreign policy perspectives.

Add in that Kerrey, with the completely unnecessary e, is a loose cannon.

If Kerry wanted an all vet ticket, he could hav picked Harkin - which in retrospect would not have been a bad pick, given that he is loved in Iowa and was a real populist with a long record of being so. He might have been able to do what they wanted Edwards to do better than Edwards - and with less tsouris - he would likely have used the campaigns slogan.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 02:58 PM
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31. Correct. I was referring to Hillary Clinton in this cycle.
Yes, he is a bit of a loose cannon. Very true.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 04:56 PM
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32. I suspected that but wasn't sure because it preceded that Kerry should have picked him
I really thing he did very little to help HRC, though he was a strong supporter. The "maddrassa comment backfired and I really don't think he has much in the way of supporters at this point. He certainly has very little support from New School students from what I hear from a student.

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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 08:01 AM
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25. War criminal neocon/neolib? Why not?
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 08:17 AM
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26. You want one of the 9/11 Commission whitewashers...
...to be Obama's VP?

Why?

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 10:13 AM
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29. NO
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 10:15 AM
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30. !
:puke:

(Only thing I could think of concerning Bob Kerrey)
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:01 PM
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34. No thanks. He's much too conservative. nt
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 06:05 PM
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35. He was probably the best Senator that Nebraska has had in a while
But he was an Iraq War cheerleader and last I checked he still is.
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