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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:02 PM
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Ok I have to ask
Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 05:04 PM by az chela
Has Barack given a reason for supporting fisa???
I know he is highly intelligent and loves his country and the dem party.
I would like to hear his side as I dont think he would betray us but he does owe us a explanation.
It is hard enough fighting his haters with out this
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:04 PM
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1. Some info here:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:07 PM
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2. A federal court will decide if Bush told the telecoms
that the program was legal. It will be public and the country will get to see what Bush did. It's better than letting the FISA court make that decision in secret.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:08 PM
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3. Here you go
Friday, June 20, 2008
Statement of Barack Obama supporting Hoyer FISA bill

Statement of Senator Barack Obama on FISA Compromise

“Given the grave threats that we face, our national security agencies must have the capability to gather intelligence and track down terrorists before they strike, while respecting the rule of law and the privacy and civil liberties of the American people. There is also little doubt that the Bush Administration, with the cooperation of major telecommunications companies, has abused that authority and undermined the Constitution by intercepting the communications of innocent Americans without their knowledge or the required court orders.

“That is why last year I opposed the so-called Protect America Act, which expanded the surveillance powers of the government without sufficient independent oversight to protect the privacy and civil liberties of innocent Americans. I have also opposed the granting of retroactive immunity to those who were allegedly complicit in acts of illegal spying in the past.

“After months of negotiation, the House today passed a compromise that, while far from perfect, is a marked improvement over last year's Protect America Act.

“Under this compromise legislation, an important tool in the fight against terrorism will continue, but the President's illegal program of warrantless surveillance will be over. It restores FISA and existing criminal wiretap statutes as the exclusive means to conduct surveillance – making it clear that the President cannot circumvent the law and disregard the civil liberties of the American people. It also firmly re-establishes basic judicial oversight over all domestic surveillance in the future. It does, however, grant retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses. But this compromise guarantees a thorough review by the Inspectors General of our national security agencies to determine what took place in the past, and ensures that there will be accountability going forward. By demanding oversight and accountability, a grassroots movement of Americans has helped yield a bill that is far better than the Protect America Act.

“It is not all that I would want. But given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay. So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as President, I will carefully monitor the program, review the report by the Inspectors General, and work with the Congress to take any additional steps I deem necessary to protect the lives – and the liberty – of the American people.”
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 05:20 PM
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4. Thank you so much for posting this.I think Barack is trying
to keep the american people safe while also respecting the law.It is a 2 way street but I think he has to do this.I trust his judgement.
It has been so long since I trusted any elected official but until I
know for sure that barack has betrayed us I plan on trusting his judgement
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 07:34 PM
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5. The vote is next week.
Suggested reading: especially the end as to what you can do to help.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6395674
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