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Sat Jun-21-08 05:24 PM
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The PERFECT is the ENEMY of the GOOD |
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Edited on Sat Jun-21-08 05:27 PM by IWantAnyDem
No truer wrords were ever spoken.
The PERFECT is the ENEMY of the GOOD!
Nobody is perfect. You will never see a perfect candidate, but John McCain wants you to accept nothing less than perfect.
That's why this piece of shit legislation has been forced on this Congress and why Obama has little choice in how to vote when it comes to the floor of the Senate.
If you cannot accept nothing less than perfect, then you might as well vote for and support John McCain, because accepting nothing less than perfect will result in a John McCain presidency.
How do I know this?
In Florida in 2000, 97,421 people could not accept the good alternative to George W. Bush. Those 97,421 demanded the Democratic candidate be perfect and barring that, they chose to go third party.
George W. Bush ended up winnning Florida by 537 votes, resulting in the most disastrous eight year period in American history.
So go ahead and demand your PERFECT. We'll end up with McCain and thrust this world into never ending war and ever increasing global climate change, ruining all chances for your children and grandchildren to have anything resembling a normal human existance.
The PERFECT is the ENEMY of the GOOD!
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:26 PM
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I can understand being disappointed when "your" candidate does something you don't like, but threatening to stay home in November is just acting like a spoiled brat, and does no one any favors, least of all you yourself.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:36 PM
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2. Traditional is "Best is Enemy of Good". Add "Think Positive Not Negative Thoughts" and change just |
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:39 PM
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3. S/he wasn't quoting. Lighten up. nt |
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:44 PM
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10. My you are a careless reader. I did not criticize the OP but simply added another phrase. |
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Have a nice evening. :hi:
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Sat Jun-21-08 08:11 PM
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25. Well, she IS a blonde! n/t |
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Sat Jun-21-08 08:16 PM
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27. My preference is real red heads like my late wife of 47 years. n/t |
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:40 PM
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that sounds like some kind of Nazi slogan.
"ONE bad policy.....and the whole WORLD hates you."
--My best friend, on Hitler
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:42 PM
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:31 PM
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:41 PM
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:42 PM
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8. A little K, and a big R! |
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:44 PM
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9. It's gotta be said. Thank you! nt |
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:45 PM
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11. It's like eating foods without nutritional value...... |
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the principle can be upheld, but the end result in reference to the bill will remain the same. The bill will become law whether Obama votes for it or not, and whether Obama wins the election or not.
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Sat Jun-21-08 05:56 PM
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12. false and misleading line of reasoning |
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No one is demanding "perfect" and claiming that critics are is a dishonest debate technique. By your logic, no criticism of any politicians or rulers should ever be tolerated, because after all none of them are perfect.
I see no evidence that criticism of Democratic candidates hurts their chances of success. Decades of extensive experience in the field working for candidates tells me that the exact opposite is true. People are not that stupid, and the true-blue super-loyal rah rah team bullshit alienates people and hurts us, it doesn't help us. How weak must we be if we are calling for suppression of dissidents and silencing of critical voices? That is what this is really about - criticism threatens people's illusions, and if they were not weak they would not be worried about that and so desperate to prop up their illusions and fantasies by shutting down any contrary opinions. How about we be strong rather than trying to create the illusion that we are and demanding that everyone live in some fantasy world? Pretty damned weak all around, and a very bad sign.
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:37 PM
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Those that characterize others instead of quoting them, those who editorialize instead of engage with honesty, are doing so because they have no case to make. What they need to do is learn how to make a case, rather than using dishonest tactic like this one. Shouting people down and using the O'Reilly method of making inferences into fake quotes is a losing method. And we need to win. With a candidate who knows we are going to hold him to his promises and rhetoric. The censor is the enemy of the victorious.
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:50 PM
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17. yes, and what is worse |
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What is even worse is that those with a very weak case to make on behalf of the nominee are demanding that we all fall into lockstep and imitate their approach, and then confuse and intimidate people by claiming that their approach and only their approach "helps the nominee" and all other approaches hurt the nominee or help the Republicans.
"Better than the Republican" and "say no evil" and "be loyal" only work within the party to suppress debate, and are at best meaningless to the general public, or actually have a negative effect with them.
It seems to me that too many people in the Democratic party are much more interested in suppressing the left than they are in fighting the right wingers. Goven a choice, controlling the discussion within the party is more important to them than defeating the Republicans.
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:50 PM
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18. Oh, baloney. Questioning actions is NOT expecting perfection. |
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:53 PM
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19. why do you hate the good? |
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Sat Jun-21-08 09:57 PM
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As though the party and the candidates are even in the same galaxy as "perfection" anyway. We are so far from acceptable that is is pathetic, and yet people are telling us we are asking for perfection?
"Perfection." ROFL. Good grief. "Perfection" seems to be constantly changing, because there are fewer and fewer remarks we can make that are not seen as "demands for perfection" even though the bar gets lower and lower and lower. Pretty soon asking for clean and fair elections will be called "demanding perfection." Come to think of it, I think we already crossed that threshold, didn't we? OK then, pretty soon asking for something other than perpetual war will be called demanding perfection...no we passed that milestone, too. I know, calling for an end to torture... no, that one is miles behind us. Would pointing out that the middle class has disappeared be called "demanding perfection" now?
What is this "perfection" we are demanding, again? I keep losing track as things get worse and worse. How come the worse things get, the less tolerant some people here are of hearing any critical remarks? Could it be that things are getting worse because of the intolerance people have for criticism?
By the way, thanks for your good work lately around here.
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Sat Jun-21-08 06:55 PM
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20. Oh good, political lessons from Kung Fu. Thank you, grasshopper. |
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Sat Jun-21-08 07:26 PM
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22. The 'old' saying is from Voltaire: |
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Sat Jun-21-08 08:10 PM
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24. I don't expect perfect. |
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There's a long, long distance between McCain and "good." Just because a candidate is not McCain, that doesn't make him or her "good."
This little campaign slogan, spouted every time a candidate doesn't match the billing his supporters have promoted him with, isn't helpful. It's the reason why Congressional dems get away with their complicity. The campaign to make sure voters don't hold candidates accountable.
If you can't hold him accountable for his positions now, you won't be able to once he's in office, either.
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Sat Jun-21-08 08:14 PM
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26. Amen on your last line! n/t |
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Sat Jun-21-08 09:36 PM
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28. Even if you'll accept a kitten, never stop asking for a pony |
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If you want $3000 for your used car, ask for $5000. If you'd like to see 50% of your legislative agenda enacted, ask for 150%.
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Sun Jun-22-08 01:00 AM
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30. Certainly slap our candidates about a bit if we disapporove but only for a while the bigger picture |
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Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 01:06 AM by barack the house
is far more important and punishing them in the past has only resulted punishing all americans eventually. SStaying resolute to candidates has given the GOP the uppoer hand in the past. That is the path to take, then after november we tell them how it really is going to be.
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