BREAKING: Concern Trolling MORPHS Into Purity Trolling

[WeDidIt]

Developing...

[shadowknows69]

1. Developing like a bad rash developing.

[WeDidIt]

2. IT's invevitible

When Concern trolling ends up being heavily moderated, the average concern troll will take the first available opportunity to turn to purity trolling.

It's a blogological fact.

[Adelante]

3. You got that right

:thumbsup:

[Cha]

16. Oh, I could fill you in on

a hypocritical, purity troll who backed a certain candidate, who was far from pure, but that better not stop Obama from being more pure than Ivory freakin' soap:P

Thanks for this thread..you wrapped it up so well..Rec'd.

And, I'm not talkin' about fair criticism..I'm with the OP on this concern troll morphing into purity troll like magic.

[GarbagemanLB]

4. I have never made a thread critical of Obama until today. It is not fair to call legitimate criticis

m of a stance of his 'trolling'.

You'd prefer us be in lockstep behind him and not challenge him when we think he does wrong?

[WeDidIt]

6. I didn't see a thread from you claiming no more money for Obama

:shrug:

[havocmom]

8. Yeah, that one was hit and run with no links to back up claim

stinks like scum from under a bridge

[hokies4ever]

22. What thread are we talking about?

:patriot:

[KAZ]

7. Didn't see your name in the OP.

[blondeatlast]

10. Can we just retire "lockstep: from the DU vocab? If there is ANY site that disagrees more than

this one, I truly would like to know what it is.

[The Doctor.]

36. Hear hear.

[The Doctor.]

35. Big difference between airing a legitimate gripe and promising to withold support.

Saying, "I'm disappointed in Obama for doing 'A', 'B', or 'not C'" is fine. Saying that "Obama is no different from a Republican", or "I can't vote for him", is just plain fucking ignorant.

That's all.

[blondeatlast]

44. Why am I suddently hearing Carly Simon? nt

[KAZ]

5. Same old..same old... It's like watching a rerun, thrice.

[elocs]

9. Well I know that I am concerned that if Obama is not perfect and pure in his Liberalness,

then how can we trust him as president to safeguard our freedoms? How, oh how could he be a real Democrat?

[blondeatlast]

11. He might even be a, a, a, ...

LOCKSTEP FASCIST! ZOMG!

[elocs]

31. Right! Lockstep! Them's the worst kind!

Sometimes I wonder if the Liberal-----Moderate-----Conservative is a straight line or if the opposite ends bend toward each other. The Conservatives have their accusations of: "You must be a LIBERAL!" or, "Why do you hate America, you are no patriot!" On the opposite end we hear, "You are a DINO!" and "Why do you hate the Constitution!" Both ends are equally convinced that they are absolutely righteous and pure and refuse to consider any position to be right other than their own.

[KingFlorez]

12. Yes

I think some people are just using this as an excuse to take digs at Obama, they probably aren't really all that concerned about the FISA vote.

[anonymous171]

13. If you aren't with us, you are against us! Obama is either a full blown Kucinich-style liberal

or a rightwing fascist! THERE IS NO ROOM FOR COMPROMISE!

[blondeatlast]

14. You're just in LOCKSTEP!

How often have I disagreed with you this week; 3-4 times???

[Patsy Stone]

45. Yep.

When they want your opinion, they'll give it to you.

[Faygo Kid]

15. This is why we should have backed Lee Mercer to the hilt.

Now look at what we have gotten ourselves into.

[Adelante]

17. There you go

We'd have disease up in our houses. If only.

[Hippo_Tron]

23. People just don't understand the seriousness of regulating government sleepers

[Smear Talk Express]

18. It's hard for me to keep my mouth shut...

I consider Hugo Chavez a hero (Hell, deporting anyone tied to Pat Robertson is heroic enough in itself, let alone the substative changes that have been made in Venezuela under his watch): Obama wants him overthrown. That's sort of amusing, given that Chavez has won 5 national elections whereas Obama has won none. Reminds me of the King of Spain incident: I don't think the King has any right to stand in a political forum with Hugo given that Chavez was elected by 10,000,000 Venezuelans whereas Juan Carlos was appointed by one fascist dictator.

[blondeatlast]

19. The classics never die, they just fail to get a rise out of hardened DUers.

I count 3 in that post alone. :eyes:

[The Doctor.]

40. A little homework goes a short way.

[newmajority]

59. Welcome back to DU!

Which one of the Capitalism Hill trolls are you?

And would you like extra anchovies & arsenic?

[The Doctor.]

64. Now now...

bit too specific.

[skooooo]

20. DU has a BIG "purity" problem....

It's gotten on my nerves for quite a while. For some people there's no shades of gray, or settling for anything less than what they think is the absolutely most left-wing stance on issues. Those people make me sick.

[cbayer]

21. I wish only to point out that some of the most vociferous Obama supporters

during primaries are now expressing disappointment, anger and even threatening to not vote for him over the FISA deal. I do not think they are *trolls*. I think their idealized view of the candidate is being challenged.

[ananda]

24. Just for the record. Obama was never the ideal candidate.

He started out bankrolled by Reep donors, had
serious conflicts of interest wrt lobbyists
and corporations, and was part of the Chicago
machine.

Just for the record.

[tridim]

26. Lots of serious accusations, no links.

[H2O Man]

32. But it was

stated twice it was "for the record."

[blonndee]

29. For the record in YOUR opinion.

Keep expressing your concern, though. We all appreciate it. For the record.

[earth mom]

30. Shhh...you're not supposed to tell the truth on DU!

:eyes:

[blondeatlast]

41. Siiigh--I mean, CITE. For the record. nt

[Smear Talk Express]

54. You're right...

But still, he's better than McSame or the DLClintons.

[newmajority]

60. Just for the record, would you like breadsticks with that pizza?

[emilyg]

25. It w as bound to happen.

[cbayer]

28. Yes, it was.

Perhaps better to get it over with now.

I pointed this out because I saw in a couple of threads post stating that Clinton supporters were the ones doing this particular kind of trolling and were said to be just taking the opportunity to spread negativity. My close observation of what is going on here does not support that at all.

[emilyg]

33. I agree. A lot of

DU Obama supporters have unreasonable expectations. Obama is a politician.

[crankychatter]

43. Every goddamn issue is another excuse for Obama bashers to disrupt

ad fucking nauseum

[cbayer]

48. However, the bulk of the outrage over this issue has come from

the most ardent Obama supporters. Every post I have seen saying that they won't vote for him or will no longer give money have never been Obama bashers. While you may be right that there are still some O bashers around making hay out of this, the majority is not coming from that group.

[JoFerret]

53. Absolutely

It is the people who felt no compunction about trashing Hillary who are now in disappointment mode.

It was always going to be ugly. This is just the beginning.

That particular breed needs to get over it and move on.

[The Doctor.]

57. You have that backwards.

Seems it's mostly Obama's original supporters that are telling people to chill out over it.

The ones throwing the biggest fits didn't support him to begin with, and the people that were willing to trash Clinton were either against both to begin with (trolls) or they're still in 'support' mode.

Where are these people you speak of?

[The Doctor.]

61. Any examples?

Really, are you just saying that, or do you have specific instances (you can cite) of actual Obama supporters saying they will not vote for or donate to him over this?

I've seen nothing of the sort.

[Danger Mouse]

27. Obama has to do everything the way I want it or I'm taking my ball and going home!!!

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[crankychatter]

46. green party recruiters and gop operatives - can you tell the difference?

I can't

it's ALL disruption

and it's ALL bullshit, eh?

[Mojorabbit]

51. Stop.

I was never fond of either him nor Clinton but since he was supposed to be so big on the constitution he got my support. I am pissed off and rightly so.

Oh, he will get my vote but I will be damned if anyone here says I cannot express my huge disappointment on the FISA issue. The constitution means a whole lot to me. I expect whoever is going to be president to follow it especially after the hell of the present administration.

This man has amazing powers of communication. He could craft an awesome speech re the fourth amendment and how this is a horrible bill and stating that a better one can be formed. He could start a dialog which he could get covered in the press. There are plenty of people on the other side who feel the same way re the constitution.

He could lead on this issue and yes, I am disappointed he has not. I certainly do not expect to agree with all of his policies. I think his health plan sucks but I can live with it. But when it comes to the constitution my expectations are a whole lot higher.

And fuck these purity threads. I won't walk in lockstep with any party when it goes against the principles this country was founded on. I will bitch about it, write letters, call my reps ad nauseum as any good American would.

[davidwparker]

34. LOL

[mzmolly]

37. "Purity Trolling"

LOVE IT! :hi:

[BlooInBloo]

56. Yup.

[JVS]

38. Guns, hardworking white people, West Virginia über alles, ummmm zOMG FISA!!!11111!!!1!!!!!

[Autumn]

39. All this shit

sounds familiar.

[crankychatter]

42. fuggin cockroaches and fake progressives inspiring an epidemic of hand wringing

this place is infested

these english majors are like cockroaches

is this GreenParty Underground?

[tabasco]

47. I've seen many "Apathy Trolls."

Apparently, McCain has given them orders to suppress voter morale.

[ecstatic]

49. I love that term! Now what's the proper response for purity trolling?

"Thanks for your purity?" "Your purity is noted?" :shrug: :rofl:

[AZBlue]

50. There was a warning here in this forum the other day from Freeperville...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6356701

[SaveAmerica]

52. I'm skeered! This can only lead to Treasure Trolling,

[crankychatter]

55. I was gettin pissed off.... some had been previously ignored

they're going back

They're cold blooded disruptors for the most part, with a few exceptions

They just don't merit a response

People wanna get their panties in a bunch because a Democratic candidate acts like a Democratic candidate ALWAYS acts... then that's their issue

I've been voting against republicans my whole life

I supported Bill Clinton with flame throwers and refuted every attack no matter what

I did the same thing for Kerry and Gore

I don't love any of them... I'm more radical and left of center than most of the OUTRAGED "progressives" I see posting up in here...

You vote for the Democrat and lobby for progressive issues, but NOT DURING THE FUCKING ELECTION

Welcome to adult life

or you could go vote green... don't let the door hit you in the ass...

I ain't following these Judas Goats

[Cha]

62. They merit

monitoring though because several of them have been served red hot pizza for being so concerned. We've alerted on their "concern" that repeat smears in the GE.

And it's with the Purity..those who defended their candidates for ANYTHING they did but, can't wait to jump on Obama.

I'm not talking about his supporters, either.

[The Doctor.]

63. Yep.

Anyone that can't look at the last eight years and decide that we need to make every positive change possible, with the option for President as top priority, wouldn't even give a slightly neurotic cement block a run at checkers.

This is a time when, if one is not behind the Democratic candidate, they really are turning a blind eye to the damage that has been done to the country. One is, for all intents and purposes, just as complicit in the destruction of the country as any of the Democrats that have left us 'disenchanted'. Funny how people can demand that everyone do exactly the right thing, then turn around and refuse to make at least one effort for important, positive change.

Although most of it I don't buy.

[cui bono]

58. k & too late to r n/t