I like Joe Biden and I hope he is the VP pick

[undeterred]

I'm watching him on MTP this morning. This is a great Senator with a lot of experience and common sense and humor. I hope Obama is thinking seriously about choosing him.

[Peacetrain]

1. I like him too...

I think he would be a great vp pick... so would Webb.. any number of people..Richardson..

[peoli]

2. He is by far the strongest possible choice. BY FAR,

[midnight]

3. How do you feel about his connection with the credit card

companies. I'm just recalling from past posts that I have read here at D.U. The credit card bill that helped create outrages soaring interest rates once you were late on a payment.

[Eurobabe]

4. I think his strengths in other areas far outweigh

the credit card issue.

Nobody's perfect.

edit: Why are you hiding your profile, just curious. Are you another one of those concern trolls?

[amandabeech]

6. I don't like the credit card business, either, but nearly every candidate

has his or her negatives.

Like you say, he brings a lot to the ticket. His international experience is very important as is his experience with Washington.

If he puts his foot in his mouth a few times, he'll be VP and no one will really care.

[Radical Activist]

15. People will care if he puts his foot in his mouth during the campaign.

The last thing you need is a VP nominee who could sink the ticket with one idiotic comment. He's not worth the risk.

[amandabeech]

22. I understand your point.

On the other hand, Biden is someone who could step in and govern in the event that something happened to Obama. If this country goes into 1960s mode, you don't know what will happen, and I think that the Veep this time should be someone who can step in and keep things together in a crisis.

People around say bad things about LBJ and Gerry Ford, and there are bad things to say about them. However, both stepped in during a crisis and kept the country from falling apart completely. It's not easy to land in the middle of a crisis and be expected to govern from day one, I give them each credit for keeping things going. I think that Biden could do the same.

[DaDooRonRon]

11. He's glib, he says what people want to hear,

and he's as phony as a three dollar bill.

Good grief, I can't believe folks here would want someone in the back pocket of the credit card industry as second in command.

"Nobody's perfect" - have you actually seen the fiasco of a credit bill that Biden helped push through?

Heaven help you if you ever have to declare bankruptcy, you owe medical bills that you had to put on a credit card since your job doesn't cover them, and you're not a corporation.

You can thank MasterCard Joe for that.

Biden is EVERYTHING that is wrong with politics today - the consummate snake oil salesmen who can make everyone believe he is their best friend while picking their pocket and dining at five star restaurants.

[lyonn]

13. Mercy, if the bankruptcy bill was the only problem this country had

we'd be in good shape. That bill isn't cut in stone, it can be changed liked anything else. How many other Dems voted for it?

Biden knows world affair and seems to speak his mind, how refreshing. When he speaks I know what he is saying and you can hold him to his ideas. His reasoning is out there for all to know. He knows little about snake oil, or so it seems.

[OregonProg]

16. Mastercard Joe

I think he would be a bad choice. That credit bill shows where his allegiance is. I see him as part of the old guard who helped created this mess. This is the sort of politician we need to replace, not promote.

[Rocky2007]

28. Walmart has on sale

reconditioned brains. You should consider purchasing one.

[midnight]

21. I'm curious why you care about my profile?

[undeterred]

5. Yeah, I know.

I hate it. But as VP he wouldn't normally get to vote!

[amandabeech]

7. Delware will send another Dem to replace his vote.

Not to worry.

[WheelWalker]

8. I agree. He's just the ticket. nt

[Milo_Bloom]

9. No war voters on the ticket.

[Uncle Joe]

10. I'm not endorsing Biden for V.P. here, but I agree he dominated on MTP.

Brian Williams knew Biden dominated that's why he tried to frame the debate/interview with the very last question by asking Biden about his interest in running for V.P. in order to cast some subliminal aspersion as to why Biden was so forcefully and efficiently I might add defending Obama. Brian Williams never asked Lindsay Graham whether he would consider being V.P. for McCain.

Brian Williams also tried to frame the debate in another neocon, oil drenched, corporate loving way, by saying that environmentalists considered $4.00 a gallon gasoline as a gift. Williams framed it that way because he wanted to piss off the average American against environmentalists. Of course environmentalists are also Americans punished by the escalating fuel, food etc. etc. costs, but Williams living in his corporate loving ivory tower couldn't or wouldn't understand that. A true gift to environmentalists would be cheap clean sources of energy that didn't destroy life as we know it. Biden to his credit called Williams on his bullshit and said $4.00 a gallon gasoline was a gift to oil companies.

Williams knew Biden dominated and that's why he had two corporate loving neocons on afterwords in one sided commentary, John Harwell and Andrea Mitchell in order to clean up the mess, he couldn't handle the truth and he couldn't allow some balance by having a liberal or even a moderate on for any post interview analysis.

They had a grand time, Harwell was so desperate grasping for neocon/fascist loving straws, he mentioned flag lapel pins without the least sense of irony, that he wasn't wearing one. I guess Harwell hates America, I just can't understand why, maybe he hates us for our freedoms, like whether we have the right to wear a flag lapel pin or not.

Thanks for the thread, undeterred.

[foo_bar]

12. he makes a good talking head, but his presidential career options ended in 1988

Obama's not going to revive the Patrick mini-scandal by tying himself to a reported plagiarist, and if he's going to pick someone who disappeared from prez politics since the 80s he might as well tap Gary Hart or Geraldine Ferraro (now that's a unity ticket). That and Biden's primary campaign didn't pick up much steam, even Wes Clark made inroads into Oklahoma.

[Radical Activist]

14. Is Biden paying people or asking volunteers to post on DU?

I see a post about him every day and he doesn't have that much support in the general public.

He would be a horrible, horrible choice. He doesn't gain us any new state or votes. He was wrong to vote for Iraq and wrong about his current analysis of Iraq. He's not an appealing choice in any way at all and adds nothing to to the ticket.

[JohnnyCougar]

18. I've supported him as VP ever since Obama locked uo the nomination

He is perfect, and his strengths are Obama's shortcomings -- mainly experience and foreign policy. Plus he connects with the older voters very well, it seems (from the ones I have talked to, at least). He has a no-nonsense style of speaking which may be a bit over-the-top sometimes, but he comes off as believable. Also, he is Catholic, and we want to woo Catholics this election.

[undeterred]

19. Excellent points.

[Radical Activist]

20. If Obama wants balance of experience then he needs

someone with executive and/or military experience, which isn't Biden. Biden's vote for the Iraq war undermines Obama's argument that judgment is more important than experience. Obama doesn't need a VP who undermines the central argument of his campaign.

He doesn't play well in Peoria. Biden is way too slick and polished to appeal to central and Southern swing state voters. People in the midwest appreciate sincerity.

[JohnnyCougar]

23. He plays just fine down here in Florida.

Biden did vote for the war, but afterwards, he also sponsored the Biden-Lugar amendment which aimed to take back some of the powers the IWR actually gave Bush. I think at the time the IWR was being pushed through, there was some reason to believe that it would simply be used to speed up inspections. It seems like Biden had second thoughts. The amendment didn't pass, but take from that what you will:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6040&mesg_id=7048

Also, I love how Biden simply eviscerates Republicans on the issue of national security:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbUhopXfYD0&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/31/17050/0528

[TheDonkey]

17. Biden is one of the sharpest guys in our party. I'd love for him to be on the ticket

my "dream" ticket.

[Skwmom]

26. Sharp, yet voted for the Iraq War? Sorry, but I don't think so.

[MonkeyFunk]

24. I like him very much, too

and he'd be a great choice. But I want to keep him in the Senate, too. It's a tough decision.

[Raine]

25. I thought he did a good job on MTP

I was impressed with him and think he would be a good pick. :thumbsup:

[Orsino]

27. I don't like him, but I can understand why so many do.

He is capable of truly awesome righteous thunder when he speaks, enough to make me forget Bankruptcy Biden's true loyalties. He's a corporate hack, but that is not all he is. He might be capable of cleaning house, if we give him enough real work to do in rebuilding the America he has neglected as senator.

He might make a good veep, if led by someone as inspirational as Obama.