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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 01:17 PM
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Remember when people were worried that Gore would invade Iraq? No? Well what were they thinking?
When confronted recently with his career of betrayals of progressive causes, Gore shrugged and said, "I guess you always hurt the ones you love." There you have the toxic essence of the Gore character: ever willing to betray his own party and sacrifice the health and well-being of millions of destitute mothers and children to secure an election that they had no real risk of losing. Bush is a known, if rather maladjusted, quantity. Gore is a political deviant, anxious to prove himself by knee-capping his most faithful allies.

Ralph Nader isn't perfect; he just seems that way when compared to Bush and Gore. Yet, his run finally offers a campaign to vote for enthusiastically. It is a vote that at the same time repudiates the neo-liberal policies of the Clinton/Gore Democrats and empowers a new political movement, a movement with as much energy, promise and feistiness as the old Rainbow Coalition. A vote for Gore is a vote for pessimism, an admission that the Left is helpless and near dead. It means succumbing to a kind of political necrophilia. A vote for Nader is a vote for optimism and political liberation--a jailbreak from the dank oubliette of the Democratic Party.

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The current Obama is Republican-lite arguments are absolute bullshit.

People need to get a grip.



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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 01:19 PM
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1. Nader=GOP. Remember that.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 03:21 PM
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4. The problem is that it's not just Nader making this argument. n/t
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 01:26 PM
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2. and look where 95,000 Florida votes for Nader got us - 8 years of bUsh.
If I had a choice between 8 years of bUsh and 8 years of Gore guess which way I'd go.

Come on - you can do it!

AFAIC nAder has as much blood on his hands as bUsh.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 01:55 PM
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3. Eight years of this BS, and people seem determined
Edited on Sun Jun-22-08 01:55 PM by ProSense
to try to ensure another four to eight years of RW rule by mis-characterizing Obama's position. I know there are Democratic Senators who are more progressive than Obama, but trying to make him out as a Republican is disguise is despicable.

They did the same thing when Kerry ran, and suddenly his entire platform became the ideal for many progressives in 2008.

Enough with the disruptive BS and distortion.

Criticism is not the same as distortion.


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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 03:25 PM
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5. Some criticism is fine but threatening to not vote or not donate or not GOTV
Is destructive to all Americans who want to progress as a nation.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 03:52 PM
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6. I forgot about the other BS phrase:
"lesser of two evils"

Do people actually believe that is a logical conclusion when comparing Gore to Bush?



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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:53 PM
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8. Repubs are using all methods of disinformation to sabotage meaningful discussion of issues and the

candidates.

The MSM types, being help-maidens of the GOP, are particularly pertinacious in 'characterizing' the Democratic candidates. (it's also easier than thoughtful, informed exigesis of a candidates position on the issue at hand. Of course, news show producers are ever concerned that news coverage be entertaining more than meaningful - for the common denominator) . They are an important part of the effort to create an "impression"(illusion?) of who a candidate is and where he is on the spectrum of progressive to fascist.

This characterization of candidates often serves the GOP tactic of dividing and conquering by exacerbating dissatisfaction on the part of more ideologically focused (obdurate?) Dems with a candidate they view as not quite "pure" enough (i.e. not sufficiently 'Liberal' to the ardent progressive sensibility). IF the Repubs (through the MSM talking heads) can paint a dangerous Democratic candidate as being 'too centrist' for some in the Democratic Party, they may be able to breed dissention in the democratic ranks. And if there is a willing goof-ball stooge around (Nader)to sifon off valuable votes, mores the better!

The Repubs use any means possible to weaken the progress of "the enemy" (anyone not sufficiently enthralled with fascist philosophy). Repeated distorting characterizations of Democratic candidates by the GOP's MSM minions has a powerful effect which can totally swamp the efforts of those trying to achieve a meaningful discussion of what the candidates really stand for.




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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:33 AM
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9. It's not just the Repubs. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:18 AM
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7. Becoming a bigger
asshole by the day.

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