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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:01 PM
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My favorite internet non-issue issue
We've all seen the non-issue issues on the internet that are related to the candidacy of Barack Obama, from the "He's a Muslim" smear to teh "He's a wacko-black-liberationalist-Christian" smear, they're out there for all to see. But in the underbelly of the itnernet there are still many non-issue issues that just make me laugh out loud.

Yeah, the LArry Sinclair thing was kinda stupid and it's all a nothing issue since he held a press conference that nobody from the mainstream press showed up to which resulted in Sinclair being lead away in handcuffs. This non-issue issue now has so little credibility that the tinfoilhat nutballs look at the Branch Laridians with the sort of disgust reserved for the most insane members of society.

But my favorite nonissue issue still being pushed around the intertubes to this day is the "birth certificate scandal". You know that one. BNarack Obama wouldn't release his birth certificate to prove he was born in the United States and thus eligible to be president (even though the Hawaii Department of health confirmed Barack Hussein Obama was born to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama Sr. on August 4, 1961 at 7:24 PM). Nope, these rightwing nutballs needed the birth certificate.

And so, the Obama campaign released a copy of the certificate to Markos Moulitsas.

Case closed, right?

Wrong.

Now the rightwingnutballs are rapidly wasting their time trying to prove the released document is a fake.

And this is the utter beauty of this internet based non-issue issue. The rightwingnutballs are putting all their hopes and dreams into proving this document to be a fake when all of the information on the document has been publically available with litte to no effort at all. So they'll waste their time on this while Obama registers new voters in state after state and raises scads of money on the internet.

So a lot of the internet based non-issue issues really work to our advantage in the long term. The next time a rightwingnutball tells you about the "birth certificate scandal", encourage them by telling them that if they can prove what Obama released was a fake, you might change your mind about Obama. Then, when they're out of hearing range, you're free to roll on the floor laughing.

:rofl:
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:10 PM
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1. My favorite response to all the nutjob claims: "Where did you get your information?"
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:14 PM
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2. They often reply with "It's common knowledge."
I love that line...it came from a guy who though Sweden is a country with nazi-esque educational system and eugenics programs.

I just couldn't reply to that...so far gone that telling him to go there and let me know what he thinks afterwards would have been inviting a flamewar.
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:21 PM
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4. not to totally change the subject, but there is some history there
In 1922 Sweden became the first country in the world to establish a National Institute for Race Biology. The establishment of such an institute was supported by all major political parties.

Under the leadership of Herman Lundborg, the institute soon began gathering copious statistics and photographs to measure the racial make-up of 100,000 Swedes. <...>

Herman Lundborg's name re-emerged in the 1990s in the controversy surrounding Sweden's forced sterilisation programme, which affected 63,000 people and continued until 1975.

http://www.thelocal.se/6041/20070109/

Swedes have been forced to acknowledge an unflattering chapter in their past recently after a newspaper examined the 1935-76 involuntary sterilization program that robbed 60,000 Swedish men and women of their ability to have children.

Maria Nordin, from the Swedish town of Gaevle, was sterilized involuntarily 54 years ago at age 17. Decades later, it still hurts when she is asked why she never had children.

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/60/135.html
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:37 PM
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6. Yes, but this guy was talking like it was STILL GOING ON nationwide
n.t.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:17 PM
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3. Not just the right wingers
Larry Johnson and the rest of the PUMA crowd are also hyping the birth certificate thing
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:22 PM
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5. And it's such a non-issue
It's laughable when you could phone up the Hawaii Department of Health to obtain all the information you needed.

This is actually such a good thing because they are wasting their time and allowing Obama to pull away from McCain rapidly.

I'm loving it because the pro-Obama blogs and sites are working to raise funds and help through activism while these morans (sic) waste their time on something that is not an issue.

:evilgrin:

I hope they keep trying to prove it's a fake. My gosh, reading some of the nonsense they're posting is such fun. I'm thinking Markos must have slightly altered his copy knowing that the Obama campaign would post the copy they sent just to send these idiots into a frothing tizzy over the document.

And the fact of the matter is, it's a friggin's scan of a paper document. Trying to prove it's a fake is silly.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:02 PM
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7. Oh it's hysterical!
One of the latest rants on the subject that I read was that, since President Clinton apologized for the illegal annexation of Hawaii in the 1800's, that Hawaii is not a legal state and therefore Sen. Obama can't be a citizen because he wasn't born in the US.

Talk about straining at gnats.......
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