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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:01 PM
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RALPH NADER CAN KISS MY BLACK ASS
He has a lot of damn nerve. Who is HE to be telling a black man from the South Side of Chicago that he isn't "black enough"? When was the last time Ralph Nader went to the ghettos and the inner cities to talk to young black men about their futures? What has he done LATELY besides run for president and spoil Democratic presidential races to his own benefit? By talking such stupidity, he makes impossible for the things he SAYS he wants to achieve to happen. He is such a FUCKING LOSER. I couldn't stand him after 2000 and now I actually DESPISE that man. I better not see him in my path. He will get an EAR FULL of "black talk" from me if I ever did.

BASTARD.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:02 PM
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1. Prior to 2000 I had respect for Nader and what he accomplished as a consumer
advocate, but since 2000 his reputation with me has hit the skids.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:03 PM
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2. this is so weird that you almost have to wonder if Nader isn't doing it to
actually help Obama. Or he could just be losing his mind in his delussional narcissistic self centered world.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:05 PM
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3. I don't know what he is doing but he LOST ME when he said
Obama is trying to "talk white". WTF? He is crazy!
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:09 PM
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8. i haven't heard anyone say that since the 70's
nader has truly lost his marbles
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:11 PM
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12. I mean really! What is "talking white"? What the hell does that mean?
Can a black man not talk about COMMON issues with some intelligence without it being something "out of the norm for black people"? This demonstrates an underlying belief he has about black people. It is sickening.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:24 PM
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28. I guess Obama is only allowed to talk about "black issues"
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:35 PM
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44. As if "black issues" are foreign to the general American experience.
The things he mentioned, predatory lending, home foreclosures, etc, happen to be issues that has an effect on everyone. He seems to want to make Obama the "black" candidate who only cares about black people. Obama is trying to POTUS not POTBUS. He has to be universally appealing and cognizant of all people.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:17 PM
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17. He did not! OMG!
Crawl far away, Ralphie. You are messed up.

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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:19 PM
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19. He's trying to get media attention by saying something outrageous,
b/c everyone's forgotten he's running.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:30 PM
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39. More or less what Obama just said at his press conference!
Although Obama added his regrets at seeing how Nader is destroying his own reputation!
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:35 PM
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43. lol--I didn't know Obama had said that too!
oooh. I like that part about Nader destroying his rep. Nice.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:03 PM
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52. he's delusional and narcissistic
beisdes being a CIA plant (:tinfoilhat: firmly in place) oh, and don't forget loser asshole!
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:02 PM
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69. "Or he could just be losing his mind in his delussional narcissistic self centered world" Love it!.
:rofl:
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:03 PM
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70. I think it's the latter, and it's a shame
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:05 PM
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4. I read something the other day where Nader was complaining he was
no longer called up to congress to discuss important consumer issues. HEY! EINSTEIN the GOP has been in charge most of the last 8 years. It makes a difference who is in power. I know the clintons didn't give Nader the respect he felt he deserved. Could that be why he ran in 2000?
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:17 PM
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16. I believe he has very selfish motives. He lost his mind a long time ago.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:06 PM
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5. Are you trying to say...

...that Ralph Nader's not in touch with black culture?

:rofl:
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:07 PM
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6. What also really gets me is the comment he made about Obama trying to appeal
to "white gulit". As if Obama's popularity isn't based on some genuine appeal he has.

BASTARD.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:10 PM
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9. Yeah..

..it makes no sense. Obama hasn't even "gone there." He's popular because people are tired of REPUBLICAN SHIT!

Well, probably this won't be the stupidest thing you hear before it's all over...

:shrug:
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:18 PM
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18. Exactly! People are FED UP with the bullshit. We want RELIEF!
Relief comes in the form of OBAMA. What about that equation is HE NOT UNDERSTANDING??
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:23 PM
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24. He needs to be the center of attention..

..and this is how he gets it - by throwing out buzzwords that more enlightened people have deemed outmoded and arcane. I used to have respect for the guy, but he's nothing more than an asshole-ish distraction.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:18 PM
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80. He's projecting - Nader has been appealing to white guilt for quite awhile now nt
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:08 PM
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7. I'm not black but he could kiss my ass too
except that it would gross me out.

I appreciate his devotion to his "cause", and I appreciate that he's running on principles, but there's a time to get out of the way. He doesn't seem to recognize that.

We're past making a statement. Now we need to let the games begin.

He's holding that up.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:20 PM
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21. He has long since run out of goodwill with me. Yeah he did some great things BACK THEN
but what about now? He is fucking up shit. We need ACTION not some damn "cause" that he has no realistic plan of implementing himself. He needs OBAMA to get in so we can do the damn things he wants achieved.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:10 PM
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10. um, no
he has to kiss my black ass first.

take a number :)
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:07 PM
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53. My ass is plaid. He can kiss it, too. n/t
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:11 PM
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11. I said it before. Nader's attempt to channel George Wallace into the....
twenty-first century. If Nader would get over his jealousy of a black man advancing further than he ever has and pour some of his rhetoric into something constructive for a change, he might be relevant.
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:14 PM
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13. So You're Saying You Don't Have The "White Guilt" Either?
:rofl:


K&R
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:15 PM
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15. Can you ?

Have a black ass and white guilt? Probably not.

:rofl:

(just being silly here)
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:15 PM
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14. I'm surprised Nader didn't call him a "jive turkey." n/t
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:23 PM
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25. Ralph Nader is a loon.
:rofl:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:20 PM
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20. Nader's a prick. nt
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:21 PM
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22. Is this worse than what Ferraro said?
What do you think?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:23 PM
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26. which was..?
remind us?
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:26 PM
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32. That the only reason Obama was where he was was because
he's black. If he was a woman or a white male no one would take him seriously because of his lack of experience.

You don't remember?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:28 PM
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36. yeah..

Now I do. There's been so many stupid things said, I can't keep up sometimes.

I think what Ferraro said is worse, only because I think she really believes it. I think Nader is saying this shit just to get attention. But hey, they're both REAL STUPID.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:26 PM
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30. They are about equal in my opinion.
Both demonstrate that they believe the black man isn't where he is based on merit, reason, logic, and qualifications.

BOTH of them can kiss my black ass.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:27 PM
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33. ok. this one bothers me more.
Not sure why?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:23 PM
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56. The problem is
when Nader and Ferraro, as well as others make these comments, there are dyed in the wool Archie Bunker types, True Believers, nut jobs and generic wankers that buy into it 100%.

We need every vote and every vote must count.
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:21 PM
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23. RALPH NADER CAN KISS MY WHITE ASS . . .
and I won't feel the least bit guilty about it. What is it about people like Nader who can never accomplish anything positive for anybody but wants to diss on everybody?
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:32 PM
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40. I don't understand that man. I really don't. He has gone crazy.
Why would he say this about the first black person who has a REAL shot of becoming POTUS? He just lost any good will he had with most black people with that stupid statement.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:24 PM
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27. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:26 PM
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31. Tell us what exactly...

....Nader is on to, please.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:28 PM
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35. BAR is nothing but an Obama bashing site.
It makes no sense to me at all. Instead of going after the real enemy, they wish to tear down the Democratic candidate with the best chance of getting in office in a long time to accomplish the things this set believes are important. I can't help reading them and wondering whose side they're really on.
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:49 PM
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50. Their registration should tell you something...
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
DomainsByProxy.com
15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: BLACKAGENDAREPORT.COM

We all know what proxy means, egistered through a third party in order to hide their true agenda and to avoid taking any credit for their true agenda. If blackagendareport.com is not a repugnantcan propaganda machine, I'LL KISS THEIR ASS! Good luck tracking down any futher information. My lips are clean.

Go Daddy offers anonymous domain registration - The Register
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southpaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:25 PM
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29. Let him spew...
Shit like this will guarantee that he will siphon off very few liberal votes this time around! And here I thought it would be impossible for him to do worse than he did in '04.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:27 PM
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34. Couple months back we were all up in arms
over Bush's illegal invasion into our private lives. Now , Obama caves to the telecoms in some political ploy and we ignore our past anger. Are we that fickle.
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:30 PM
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38. I see the bigger picture.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:35 PM
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42. For those who don't see the bigger picture, some pictures:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6410567&mesg_id=6410567


(My apologies if this counts as thread hi-jacking, I think we're on the same page.)
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:40 PM
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49. Exactly.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:29 PM
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37. I respect your opinion, but
I personally don't want Nader that close to my ass.
:rofl:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:38 PM
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47. What, are you "unsafe at any speed"?
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:29 PM
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73. Safe enough, but
my emissions are questionable.
:rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:34 PM
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41. My high yellow ass too!
Talk White my ass!

Part of the problem that a lot of young Black kids have is being teased about talking white....when it should be encouraged, cause speaking any other way in this day and age make one's life that much harder. If Nader thought he was gonna make a dent in the Obama Black vote, he is in for a rude shock!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:37 PM
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45. Put me in line, too. Pucker up to pink moon, Ralph.... (but NO tongue this time!)
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:38 PM
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46. ...eww

Hope you don't catch nothing from him!

:puke:
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:39 PM
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48. I've concluded that whatever he's done good in the past.... he's a doddering geezer now w/McCain NT
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:58 PM
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51. My White Ass too!
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:58 PM
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67. And my White/Cherokee ass! Phred, you had me at "...kiss my black ass..." LOVE the post! nt
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 09:01 AM
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76. Sorry - the original wasn't my post - just the above comment
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 09:01 AM by Phred42
But tx anyway
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:08 PM
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54. St. Ralph can kiss my ass.......TWO TIMES!
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:17 PM
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55. engagement
I´m waiting for Ralph to announce his engagement to Geraldine; they´d make such a cute couple.
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:30 PM
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57. He hit you wrong and he hit many other people sideways too.
For some reason my shock and anger are tapered for Ralph Nader. I think he was at the very beginnings of Environmental Racism like plants and other entities releasing toxic harmful chemicals being located in an around poor communities. You know I think my filter just doesn't hear him the same way I hear Geraldine Ferraro or other folks.


When he says talking white, not like Jesse Jackson, I think he is talking about social justice. But I watched Obama's press comments after Nader unleashed the fury on him. His nose is flared and his jaws are locked down. Obama is pissed.


Maybe someone is going to have to explain it to me. I feel like I'm in a church and everyone is getting the Spirit. I'm still sitting there and missing it.


I see the outrage, but I am not experiencing personally. I respect everyone's anger and outrage.
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:56 PM
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58. Thank you Ralphie! This should conclude your relevance for all time...
the 70s are over Ralphie, so pucker up and get ready. You've got quite a lot of ass you need to be kissing. . . chapstick not obligatory.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:20 PM
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59. And he can kiss my lily-white, melanin-deprived one too!
STFU, Ralph. You've done quite enough damage.

Can you say "sore loser"?
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:59 PM
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68. LOL
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:23 PM
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60. His comments are wrong in so many ways
hard to imagine he didn't plan every word. Starting a race war for media attention..in which case, fuck him and forget him.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:02 PM
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61. Ralph needs to shut his fucking pie hole.
Seriously, this douchebag is just as ancient as Joan Rivers, yet needs the plastic surgery worse than she does.



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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:12 PM
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62. He can kiss my black ass as well
What an ignorant thing to say. I hope he slithers away never to be heard from again.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:34 PM
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63. Can I watch?
And after you, he can kiss my white ass, too.

This was the clincher. Anyone who gives this jerk a pass anymore has issues.

Thanks for the OP. You summed up my feelings today.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:37 PM
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64. Ralph is a douche.
If it didn't creep me out so much, I'd strongly urge him to kiss my pudgy pink ass.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:41 PM
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65. Like a douche, Ralph can be useful at times; he can almost unite DU in their
common disdain for him!
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Blondiegrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:48 PM
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66. Pffffffft. Ralph Nader speaks jive!
Just like Barbara Billingsley. :smoke:

Randy: Can I get you something?
Second Jive Dude: 'S'mofo butter layin' me to da' BONE! Jackin' me up... tight me!
Randy: I'm sorry, I don't understand.
First Jive Dude: Cutty say 'e can't HANG!
Jive Lady: Oh stewardess! I speak jive.
Randy: Oh, good.
Jive Lady: He said that he's in great pain and he wants to know if you can help him.
Randy: All right. Would you tell him to just relax and I'll be back as soon as I can with some medicine?
Jive Lady: Jus' hang loose, blood. She gonna catch ya up on da' rebound on da' med side.
Second Jive Dude: What it is, big mama? My mama no raise no dummies. I dug her rap!
Jive Lady: Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da' help!
First Jive Dude: Say 'e can't hang, say seven up!
Jive Lady: Jive ass dude don't got no brains anyhow! Hmmph!
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AZ Criminal JD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:11 PM
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71. I don't think anyone of any race should be saying someone is not "black enough"
I thought it was and is racist when some on DU have accused someone who grew up in Birmingham during the time black people were being bombed in her neighborhood, that she is not "black enough". That would be Condi Rice who grew up in a neighborhood a few blocks from me. BTW OP Obama is not from the south side of Chicago. He came there after college.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:17 PM
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72. Here's the video from DU Political Videos forum
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:33 PM
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74. Nader = full of shit
Right from "Unsafe at any speed":
I'm a very serious car guy, and I can tell ya - the worst thing about Ralpie and the Corvair is that he ignored the real problems of the car (like exhaust and oil fume blowing in thru the heater), and concentrated on a vague handling issue - which my Covair racin' buddies tell me is easily fixed with better rear shocks. Oh, and you ought not panic and lift sharply after the apex of the corner(if the ol "Vair" had bum shocks and you were going too fast) - but only a very inexperienced driver would do that
-BUT RALPHIE ASSHAT DON'T F'N DRIVE! Never had a license, afik......

So, some things don't change - and Nader is still blowin' wind about things he knows less than nothing about.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:20 AM
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75. He's trying to get Obama to run on "black issues." Obama is too smart
for that. And anybody who thinks they are going to drive a wedge between Obama and black americans is dreaming. It won't happen.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 09:22 AM
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77. This is exactly why I lost all respect for Ralph.
"By talking such stupidity, he makes impossible for the things he SAYS he wants to achieve to happen".....

You are so right about that. I could understand and agree with him if he didn't take tactics that actually advance the very things he's against!! What is his strategy? Whatever it is, IT'S NOT WORKING! Surely he is smart enough to see that he's hurting the causes he claims to champion! The fact that he picks on Democrats 100% more than Republicans is proof enough for me to assume that Ralph is a Republican plant who actually wants less consumer and worker rights. He may claim otherwise, but I have to judge by what I observe.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:45 AM
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78. Nader and MLK
I think it worthwhile to research not just the great divide between the two reformers when they were contemporary but how these two moved away from their initial successful movement once betrayal signaled a need to take an entirely new tack. For MLK, watching the development of Vietnam turn into a soul wrenching bad deal meant he had to oppose the war and give up the alliances that institutionalized his successes. For Ralph, seeing the consumer justice issues become the plaything for Humpty Dumpty meant it was also time to savage a lot of his allies.

The attitudes of the two seem to diverge sharply at this point. Personally, MLK was torn and responding to a higher call, taking on the whole system without benefit of previous establishment political supports. For Nader, it seems coldly personal, plain revenge and about taking heads even if mixed with incisive idealism. In fact, it seems more that getting personally stiffed and sidelined is what made him go political in sort of a blind attack that never bothered to master the art of the political. it seemed to have poisoned his confrontation with the system and made him an ego blind part of the GOP problem.

Comparing and contrasting the persons, the tests, the responses and the attitudes is quite a startling exercise and highlights the ultimate tragedy of Nader assassinating his own image, prolonging and enabling the real enemies and totally at odds with the moral compass. Not tolerating compromise(or the insult of being ignored) by Dems or fellow conservationists he takes revenge by calling the destroyers "better". This twist, this judgmentalism has a black cloud around it. When MLK put his life on the line to take a prophetic stance for the good of all, disabling the system it was a judgment too, but never personal. I think anyone can feel the difference long before they see the profound divide.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 11:58 AM
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79. This is proof he is a tool of the Republican party.
He now is not only taking their money but he is talking like one.

How sad. He use to be someone to look up to. Now I wouldn't spit on him if he was on fire.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 12:38 PM
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81. What does he expect Obama to do?
Wear his cap sideways, a clock around his neck, and end each sentence with "yo, know wat I'm sayin?"

I love how some people are trying sooooo fucking hard to put this guy in a box -- he's a secret Muslim!!! No, he's a radical, angry black man!! No, wait, he's a martini-drinking country club snob!! He's an elitist latte-sipper!! And now.....He's too white!!! :crazy:
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sandyj999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 02:03 PM
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82. Ralph Nader is a Legend in His Own Mind. He's a spoiler and a loser. n/t
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madura Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 02:16 PM
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83. I can't believe he said that.
what a disappointment ralphie has turned out to be.
He's done some great work in his life and we should all be thankfull but what the heck what he thinking with this?
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