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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:41 PM
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Blitzer: "Did Obama Vote That Babies Born Alive Could Be Terminated?"
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 03:52 PM by K Gardner
Yes, this is what I heard when I made the mistake of turning on the news a few minutes ago. Total distortion. Totally misleading. Scare tactics.

Blown out of proportion. Taken out of context. But that's OK.. the goal is accomplished if the audience hears it and reads/investigates no further.

Kind of like reading DU these days. Edited to add: If for NO other reason but for the fact that he is facing an ONSLAUGHT from the media and Republicans.. those here attacking him daily really need to fucking stop it.

I'm NOT talking about disagreeing, debating, discussing stances on issues.. I'm talking about the freakin character attacks. Or maybe some of you have forgotten what the last eight years have brought us.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:43 PM
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1. I heard that too on CNN.
I think Blitzer is going to discuss it this hour. Do you know what Obama actually said?
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:45 PM
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3. I think he's referring to an Illinois Senate Vote. I had to turn the TV off. Can't watch it.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 05:55 PM
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33. Excellent choice
:thumbsup:
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:43 PM
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2. Sounds like a variation of "How long has it been since you stopped beating your wife?"
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 03:44 PM by no_hypocrisy
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:46 PM
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4. Bill "The Gambler" Bennett was babbling on the other day about
Obama killing babies. :wtf:

The corporate hooooooore media needs to be terminated.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:47 PM
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5. oh dear god.. you're kidding me. Please tell me you're kidding.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:59 PM
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14. Not kidding. It was during CNN's "analysis" of Obama's
press conference the other day. Bennett was on with Brazille and was carrying on about Obama - not his exact quote - favoring the killing of 8-month old babies. :eyes: I was hitting the "off" button as he said it. Interesting that The Wolfer is now using Bennett's talking point. :mad:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:54 PM
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8. Yet, Obama Doesn't Want to Bring Back the Fairness Doctrine
I really am sick of watching Democrats smashing their own knee-caps....

This media obviously needs to be held accountable for their propaganda... and I know no other way of doing so, other than bringing back the Fairness Doctrine or something equivalent.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:57 PM
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11. Something surely has to be done, you're correct.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:01 PM
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16. That frustrates and angers me as well.
:argh:

Something must be done, pronto.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:54 PM
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25. How would the Fairness Doctrine apply here?
Would it be fair to have another guest on stating that Obama doesn't in fact kill babies? Or would a written letter to Obama within a weak notifying him of Wolf Blitzer's mention of him being a baby killer help in some way?

The problem is Corporate media ownership and the editorializing that comes from an atmosphere in which a news organization is owned by a company such as General Electric. Providing balance to Blitzer's questioning whether Obama wants to kill babies is not the answer to the issue brought up in the OP.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 05:01 PM
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29. Hard to imagine how the Fairness Doctrine would apply to CNN,
or any other cable channel for that matter. They are basically private networks, not limited by a finite amount of frequencies like broadcast tv. If you include cable, then how could you not include satellite and internet? Every source of communication would be subject to the fairness doctrine? And of course, most of the talking head shows are billed as entertainment anyway, and wouldn't really be subject to equal time. I think that was the essence of the Fox News channel lawsuit where they said they were allowed to lie because they were just really entertainment anyway.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 05:37 PM
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31. And what do you do with people how label themselves one thing
and talk another way. I imagine Wolf's show would be considered politically neutral by CNN. According to Republicans the vast media is liberal... Who gets to decide what is and isn't fair. I think at this point trust busting is more important than a sense of fairness. End the conglomerates and get more diverse ownership across the air ways.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:54 PM
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34. I think ultimately have to counter the whole idea of politics being a burden,
and compromise (in a democracy!) being corrupt. For progressivism and grassroots activism to work, people have to pay attention. Politics can be fun and interesting and rewarding, but so many people come to the conclusion that they are powerless and just can't be bothered.
It's not like that in much of the rest of the world. Many of us take an awful lot for granted here.
If people were inspired to treat politics like they do American Idol or Survivor... OK, maybe those are bad examples, but like they take care of their yard or whatever hobby they have, it would diffuse the influence of a few pundits on 3 channels.
But our government doesn't help sometimes. There is NO justification for having elections on one day in the middle of the week. Or not having every citizen automatically registered to vote as soon as you get your social security card. Or making it so hard for other parties to get on the ballot.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:58 PM
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36. I'm pissed about FISA, but I think he deserves a break on the fairness doctrine issue
Were he to come out in favor of the fairness doctrine now, the media would go after him non-stop at a crucial time in the campaign (probably for the whole damn thing) in an effort to drag him down. It would probably drown out all the other issues. So for that, I'll give him a break. Hopefully he'll get on it in his administration (should it materialize).
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:50 PM
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6. It'll be 2004 all over again
But Obama is far more prepared.

So the attacks will be far stupider, more outlandish, and worse.

These people have no ethics whatsoever.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:53 PM
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7. Exactly why WE need to be behind him.. and not forming another line of attack.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:29 PM
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20. Yes, and we need to know
how to respond to the ridiculous stuff. This is a good place brainstorm. Constructive, factual (not emotional) discussion and a game plan will win the da.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:56 PM
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9. If I was a pundit on the show, I would have said this...
"Well, you know Wolf that part of the secret handshake that Michelle and Barack exchanged when he was declared the apparent nominee was that they were going to eat live babies after the speech with everyone in the audience. You see, Wolf, no one has invited you to baby-eating parties because you're such a short fucking twit."

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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:58 PM
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13. ROFL !! Honestly, I'd LOVE to see people start responding to this innane CRAP with
statements exactly like that. Its the only way the pundits are going to be exposed for the jokes they are.. some people really believe what they hear.
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NatBurner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:57 PM
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10. i used to like that guy, too
what a dick he's turned out to be
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:57 PM
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12. According to Wiki
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 04:03 PM by cbc5g
"Obama opposed the Induced Infant Liability Act, an Illinois law that would protect babies born accidentally during abortions.<118>"

Obama claimed this was an attack on abortion and that babies born alive should be looked after by the doctors if the baby was moving and seemed to be Okay, but that he wouldn't support the bill which he believed was part of an attack on abortion. It could open abortion doctors up to lawsuits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_barack_obama#Abortion
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:01 PM
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18. Thanks for looking this up. I feel another coordinated RW smear coming on.



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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 03:59 PM
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15. remember how during the primaries McCain was ignored and the MSM said...
oh, once the democratic race is decided we will begin to focus on McCain? Not true. I have yet to see them give McCain's gaffes and misstatements the same kind of scrutiny they have given to Obama or Clinton.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:02 PM
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19. Hah ! The old "if you'll keep watching we'll get to it soon" trick !
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:01 PM
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17. CNN is lame
I turned it on for a second, and Wolf Blitzer was showing McCain's lame "Obama is Dr. No!" internet ad. How could anyone take that thing seriously? It looks like a parody!
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:39 PM
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21. I refuse to watch CNN any more
I only watch MSNBC for Olberman, Abrams, and Maddow.
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scrappydo Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:50 PM
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23. Same here.....
I used to be a CNN junkie....even taping progams when I was not at home.....NO MORE! :thumbsdown:
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:58 PM
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28. Me too minus the taping
They are nearly complete in their transformation to Water Carriers now.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:43 PM
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22. Yet we don't need the Fairness Doctrine
:crazy:
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:56 PM
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26. How exactly would the Fairness Doctrine apply here?
Would it be fair to have another guest on stating that Obama doesn't in fact kill babies? Or would a written letter to Obama within a weak notifying him of Wolf Blitzer's mention of him being a baby killer help in some way?

The problem is Corporate media ownership and the editorializing that comes from an atmosphere in which a news organization is owned by a company such as General Electric. Providing balance to Blitzer's questioning whether Obama wants to kill babies is not the answer to the issue brought up in the OP.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 05:11 PM
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30. The Fairness Doctrine promoted media responsibility and ethical behavior
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 05:12 PM by depakid
as well as specific accountability.

Not to say that consolidation isn't equally as much of a problem- but even if the nation were to break up the oligopolies on radio and TV, you'd still have overwhelming corporate content and propaganda principles at work.

Regarding CNN, back in 2004 a close friend of mine used to call all the time (often in tears) about something CNN said about Kerry- or about the war, etc. that she knew to be false.

I tried to get her to program the channel off her TV (which she finally did, but only after I issued a count the lies challenge). What we did was listen to Andrea Mitchel and part of Blitzer- One hour in the afternoon.

We taped it and I had her note every instance I caught of the host or a guest making an uncontroverted false statement of FACT. Not opinion or bias- but facts that could be cross referenced and checked against credible sources.

We ended up with (count 'em) 17 separate lies -14 of which with some digging by an educated person with research skills count demonstrably prove false with hard evidence.

This- along with the equally misleading headlines- is the direct consequence of having no accountability in place (and therefore no incentive on the part of corporate pleasing editors to fact check thier stories or reign in their hosts).
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:52 PM
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24. John McCain believes the same thing. For babies born alive in the Middle East, that is. nt
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 04:57 PM
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27. Yeah, Blitzer, Obama's all about infanticide.
:eyes:

Stupid fucking morons.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 05:46 PM
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32. DearAbby: "Wolf Blitzer is a total fecking moran."
and another thing, what mother would name her child Wolf? Putz, hey I could understand....Maybe Bartholmew, call him Barfie Blitzer, for short...nawh, too close to Barfly, insult to all Barflies out there, I humbly beg your pardon...
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:58 PM
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35. Wolf's teasers are getting desperate
"Obama, call me. Okay? Please? Please? Please?"

Luv 4evar,
Wolfie Blitz
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