Hillary for VP!

[highplainsdem]

No one better!

God, what a great president she'd have made...and may still make someday.

But for this election, with Obama the nominee, the strongest ticket is with her as his running mate.

[SeaLyons]

1. I second that....

Absolutely no one better!!

[emilyg]

9. I'll third that!

[rodeodance]

38. and 4th.......

:donut:

[lumpy]

85. She'd be terrific and would help pull in a lot of votes. Some

people here don't realize that she has been an inspiration to many many women of all ages and ethnicities.

[musicblind]

135. I'll 5th

Though Biden and Edwards would also be good choices. :)

[Beacool]

136. I'll 6th............

That doesn't sound right. LOL!!!

[musicblind]

162. lol

Do I hear a 7th anyone? Come on... Come on... !!!!!

[DemUnity08]

2. Totally agree with you

[democrattotheend]

55. Hey, welcome to DU!

Love your username.

[highplainsdem]

79. Yes, welcome! I love your member name, too!

:hi:

[theoldman]

3. Sorry, will not happen.

She will be given another spot.

[Spider Jerusalem]

4. No, it isn't

Democrats will vote overwhelmingly for the Democratic nominee, regardless; Hillary alienates many independents. Not 'the strongest ticket', by a longshot.

[Forkboy]

5. I just don't see it happening.

But I've been wrong before and I'm sure I'll be wrong again, so who knows?

[mod mom]

6. We need change. Hillary isn't change.

[SeaLyons]

24. are you saying that

Hillary is 4 more years of Bush. WTF. Of course she is change. She is a DEMOCRAT and a damned good one.

[mod mom]

25. I didn't compare her to * but she represents insider corporate DLC Dems.

You might be well served by reading this letter from a Wellesley College Alumna :



RE: Open Letter to Hillary Clinton From a Wellesley College Alumna, by Linn Cohen-Cole. Thought you all might be interested in reading this open letter to Hillary Clinton, by Linn Cohen-Cole, on the Clinton's ties to Monsanto, promotion of genetically engineered crops and rBGH, recombinant Bovine Growth Hormone.
Open Letter to Hillary Clinton From a Wellesley College Alumna
February 19, 2008

-snip

You have connections to Monsanto through the Rose Law Firm where you worked and through Bill who hired Monsanto people for central food-related roles. Your Orwellian-named “Rural Americans for Hillary” was planned withTroutman Sanders, Monsanto’s lobbyists.

Genetic engineering and industrialized food and animal production all come together at the Rose Law Firm, which represents the world’s largest GE corporation (Monsanto), GE’s most controversial project (DP&L’s - now Monsanto’s - terminator genes) , the world’s largest meat producer (Tyson), the world’s largest retailer and a dominant food retailer (Wal-Mart) .

The inbred-ness of Rose’s legal representation of corporations which own controlling interests in other corporations there and of corporate boards sharing members who are also shareholders of each other’s corporations there, is so thorough that it is hard to capture. Jon Jacoby, senior executive of the Stephens Group - one of the largest institutional shareholders of Tyson Foods, Walmart, DP&L - is also Chairman of the Board of DP&L and arranged the Wal-Mart deal. Jackson Stephens’ Stephens Group staked Sam Walton and financed Tyson Foods. Monsanto bought DP&L. All represented at Rose.

You didn’t just work there, you made friends. That shows in the flow of favors then and since. You were invited onto Walmart’s board, you were helped by a Tyson executive to make commodity trades (3 days before Bill became governor), netting you $100,000, Jackson Stephens strongly backed Bill for Governor, and then for President (donating $100,000).

Food and friends, in Clinton terms: Bill’s appointed friend Mike Espy, Secretary of Agriculture, who immediately significantly weakened federal chicken waste and contamination standards, opening the door to major expansion of Tyson’s chicken factory farms. Espy resigned, indicted for accepting bribes, illegal contributions, money laundering, illegal dispersal of USDA subsidies, …. Tyson Foods was the largest corporate offender.

-snip

http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2008/03/29083.php

[rodeodance]

31. Obama has his own corporate friends

[Name removed]

36. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[mod mom]

46. Not all corporations are bad but there are some very noxious companies (read the letter

I posted in my thread above) and individuals associated with the Clintons:

With Friends Like These ...
by Marin Cogan, Melanie Mason, and Barron YoungSmith
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Clintons' shadiest donors.
Post Date Monday, February 04, 2008

It's not that we expect politicians to have squeaky-clean donor lists. You try running for office without, at one point or another, taking money from someone you probably shouldn't. Even Barack Obama, Mr. Clean, has Tony Rezko. But the Frank Giustra-Kazakhstan-Uranium affair, blown open by The New York Times last week, serves as a reminder that the relationship between the Clintons and money has not always been lily-white. Here, a guide to the unsavory characters who have been associated with Bill and Hillary Clinton.


http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=076fd56f-4aca-4683-a9d1-3c55d748946e



After Mining Deal, Financier Donated to Clinton

By JO BECKER and DON VAN NATTA Jr.
Published: January 31, 2008
Late on Sept. 6, 2005, a private plane carrying the Canadian mining financier Frank Giustra touched down in Almaty, a ruggedly picturesque city in southeast Kazakhstan. Several hundred miles to the west a fortune awaited: highly coveted deposits of uranium that could fuel nuclear reactors around the world. And Mr. Giustra was in hot pursuit of an exclusive deal to tap them.

Unlike more established competitors, Mr. Giustra was a newcomer to uranium mining in Kazakhstan, a former Soviet republic. But what his fledgling company lacked in experience, it made up for in connections. Accompanying Mr. Giustra on his luxuriously appointed MD-87 jet that day was a former president of the United States, Bill Clinton.

-snip

"Kazakhstan’s president, Nursultan A. Nazarbayev, whose 19-year stranglehold on the country has all but quashed political dissent."

"Mr. Nazarbayev walked away from the table with a propaganda coup, after Mr. Clinton expressed enthusiastic support for the Kazakh leader’s bid to head an international organization that monitors elections and supports democracy."

-snip

Just months after the Kazakh pact was finalized, Mr. Clinton’s charitable foundation received its own windfall: a $31.3 million donation from Mr. Giustra that had remained a secret until he acknowledged it last month. The gift, combined with Mr. Giustra’s more recent and public pledge to give the William J. Clinton Foundation an additional $100 million, secured Mr. Giustra a place in Mr. Clinton’s inner circle, an exclusive club of wealthy entrepreneurs in which friendship with the former president has its privileges.

LINK:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html

[Hieronymus]

42. We need real change. Hillary ran an old fashioned Republican campaign.....

A PUMA member is on TV now saying that she might vote for McCain. Apparently she thinks Hillary is closer in her politics to McCain than to Obama.

[JoFerret]

80. In your dreams.

.

[Beacool]

137. And that's Hillary's fault, how??? n/t

[merh]

151. Bush endorsed her, what's that tell you?

:shrug:

Rove sings her praises, ick.

[JoFerret]

78. She certainly is

without a doubt.

[butterfly77]

141. RIGHT!

[Rene]

155. Change what???? That'ts what W said in 1999. Look what we got for 8 years!

aaaggghhhh this obama panderer, who doesn't know how or what to vote on is a ridiculous choice for prez. The wind shifts and so does he....fool/tool. Look out sheeple--you asked for a mess.

[JVS]

7. Edwards is better

[goldcanyonaz]

18. Been there, done that! AG would be perfect for Edwards

[JVS]

19. We need a VP who isn't too old to run in 2016. Edwards beats Clinton there

[musicblind]

74. Edwards is good.

I would prefer Hillary Clinton, but Edwards would make me very happy.

[highplainsdem]

8. Obama: "She rocks. She rocks." Yes, she does!

And speaking of both Clintons: "The American people need their service and their wisdom."

[AllentownJake]

10. Fine by me

A couple of weeks ago he would of looked weak if he took her. Taking her now does not leave that impression.

[MercutioATC]

11. Stop the madness

My god...some of you people are just determined to lose us another election, aren't you?

[YOY]

12. Yes they are...

Some of it from real Hillary supporters and some of it from "Operation Chaos" leftovers...

[JoFerret]

83. Attitudes like yours make it

more likely.

[MercutioATC]

88. Clinton as VP is a losing bet.

We have a lot of momentum on our side...why kill it?

[JoFerret]

89. II's a view

like most others - held with conviction but unbacked by evidence. Actually - there probably is some data out there on the topic. I don't know what it is. Issue is - she is extraordinarily capable and therefore could be seen as an enormous asset. But not , of course, by those to whom anything Hillary is anathema. So, there you have it.

[MercutioATC]

90. You have to remember that this is now the GENERAL election.

Clinton's only liked by a little over half of Dems. Indys and Repubs generally dislike her...and they make up about 60% of the electorate.

[JoFerret]

92. As I said - opinion unsupported by legitmate data

(You have to remember that this not only a general election but also that you do not have the last word in authoritative predictive information. And of course such information would be unreliable as opinions shift. However, I think there is little on which to base your conviction. And also that there is as much to support many quite different views.)

[speedoo]

97. Do you consider this Quinnipiac poll illegitimate?

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x2882.xml?ReleaseID=1187

(snip)

While Democrats support the idea, independent voters in each state say Obama should not choose Sen. Clinton as his vice presidential running mate. Results are:

Florida: Democrats want Clinton on the ticket 57 - 33 percent while Republicans are opposed 59 - 17 percent and independents oppose it 46 - 37 percent;
Ohio: Democrats want Clinton for Vice President 58 - 31 percent, but Republicans say no 60 - 19 percent and independents turn thumbs down 47 - 31 percent;
Pennsylvania: Democrats say yes to Clinton 60 - 31 percent, while Republicans say no 63 - 20 percent and independents nix the idea 49 - 36 percent.

"If Sen. Obama seriously is thinking about picking Sen. Clinton as his running mate, these numbers might cause him to reconsider. The people who really matter come November - independent voters - turn thumbs down on the idea. And, many say they are less likely to vote for him if he puts her on the ticket," Brown added.

(snip)



The poll shows that in several crucial swing stated Clinton as VP would HURT Obama.

Hillary as VP is McCain's best hope right now.

[lumpy]

102. No

x

[Beacool]

139. Yeah, because 18 million people didn't vote for Hillary, right?

Some of you need to move on with your dislike of her. Hillary won half of the Democratic vote and it would be a winning combination. Each half of the party would get their candidate.

[scheming daemons]

13. she's just a bad match for a "change" President.....

Sorry.


It's not going to happen.

[DemUnity08]

16. No it not

I think it a good ticket.

[yeswecanseattle]

14. I disagree.

For one main reason: Polarization

[lumpy]

103. Polarization ? Explain please.

The fact still remains that Clinton pulled almost the same amount of votes as Obama did. The only argument against this merger appears to be that independent voters and republicans would not support such a ticket, yet I have not seen any concrete evidence that that would be the case except for a couple of questionable polls and a lot of speculation from biased TV bobble heads. (And of course the Clinton disrespectors on this forum).

[yeswecanseattle]

132. It's more than a few questionable polls that prove my point

Her negatives have always been high. Why not avoid that risk and choose someone less polarizing?

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

15. She's far too hawkish on foreign policy for my taste

but I think she has some good ideas on domestic issues. I think if Obama assigned her as V.P. to tackle certain problems (he's going to really have his hands full he'll need an active Vice President) such as health care and education, she could be very useful.

[snooper2]

17. The 1,807th post on DU saying Hillary for VP

:rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl:


Good thing Senator Obama gets to make that decision :)



GOBAMA!

[JVS]

21. If she were going to be, they'd have announced it already.

[SeaLyons]

32. I disagree...

I think they will campaign together and announce it at the convention (if she is his pick).

[CakeGrrl]

20. Good speeches and nice photo OPs do not make a strong ticket

The problems with the ticket aren't negated by the two of them looking good at a campaign appearance.

He should have a strong foreign policy experience VP.

No extra oppo baggage with a VP who has more vetting issues than he does.

No IWR baggage.

No drama. (NO BILL)

That's just a few things.

[Thrill]

22. Can't risk driving Independents to Grandpa

[lumpy]

104. What in the world leads you to believe that independent voters

would consider voting for a republican moreso/or over that a Democrat? That is a non argument unless someone can show concrete proof that this is the case.

[speedoo]

111. See post #97. nt

[lumpy]

113. Is that it ? What more have you got ?

Concrete

[speedoo]

117. It's more than enough.

For people who don't have blinders on.

[lumpy]

120. Just as I thought, pure pontifical speculation and a poll

conducted by an obscure college.

[speedoo]

131. LOL. "obscure college"?

You think Quinnipiac is not a reliable pollster?

No wonder you want Hillary as VP candidate. You need to seriously read up on current politics and learn something.

[JackORoses]

23. not going to happen, there are too many good candidates to choose from

[lojasmo]

26. Good god, no.

We would lose.

[noiretextatique]

27. the change candidate

should pick a vp that represents change, e.g., a woman. clinton is a good choice for demcoratic support. however, i suspect the change candidate's pick will be more of an attraction for swing voters.

[lumpy]

105. All Clinton has to do then is claim 'change' . OK, that's easy.

Rhetoric always works, yes? "I am Hillary Clinton and I represent 'change'. And hope."

[cbayer]

28. That's the ticket for me.

Not sure it will happen, and I will go with whatever ticket we have, but I would love this ticket.

[rodeodance]

40. ..........

:thumbsup:

[cbayer]

72. Back atcha, rodeo!

:thumbsup:

[greguganus]

140. R.I.P. n/t

[lumpy]

86. Together they could pull in the votes. She would bring a lot

of sparkle and glitz to the campaign. People, especially young people really go for that. How much more interesting to have an attractive spirited woman on the ticket. How about two political minorities on the top ticket? Never before.

[newmajority]

29. Two senators on the ticket = McLoon landslide

That particular senator on this ticket = party suicide. And I don't mean the 'Pukes.

[rodeodance]

30. hey, great post. .

:hi: :thumbsup:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

33. Because she did so well in the primaries.

That's just the sort of poll plummeting, debt skyrocketing, gaffe machine we need in the Obama campaign.

[highplainsdem]

49. Yes, she did -- getting approximately as many votes as he did.

[lumpy]

101. And if she is on the Presidential ticket she will still get those

votes. 2 + 2 = 4

[FourPieRun]

54. she got as many votes as (or more than) he did, in case you forgot, and he got his winning delegate

edge from caucuses and open primaries, which i think you'll have to admit, don't translate into much in november.

[rodeodance]

65. she won the popular vote so -yes she did well.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

71. Great.

Then they can all donate a dollar and pay off her debt.

[Cha]

145. Quit with the fucking lying ..she did not win the popular

vote.

[Peacetrain]

34. I sincerely hope not

[Name removed]

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[Name removed]

41. Deleted message

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[Lerkfish]

43. nope, you're not allowed to mention that site, as it turns out.

and, well, I was hoping that if you people remained here it would be to promot unity instead of browbeating us to accept Clinton as VP.

I see that I was wrong, and will have to restart my ignore list.

[The Magistrate]

45. Presumably, Ma'am, You Would Vote For The Ticket If Sen. Clinton Got The V.P. Nod?

[Lerkfish]

47. sigh...I'm a sir. your gender confusion is tedious.

and that is attacking me personally as another way to browbeat me into submission.

I DO find it amusing you are asking ME to perform a loyalty oath.


whatever, if you will peruse all my previous posts, you will see I have always said I would vote for the nominee and his VP.
I have a preference for and against VP, but that doesn't matter.

now that you've made this about ME in order to intimidate me from pointing out when we are being infiltrated by those who would disparage the nominee.


predictable and consistent, at least, to the very last.

[The Magistrate]

48. Mixed You Up With Someone Of a Similar Name Recently Encountered, Sir

These things will happen.

Happy to hear you would certainly vote for the ticket should Sen. Clinton receive the Party's nomination for Vice President. Odds that she will seem fairly decent at present.

[Lerkfish]

51. since your whole method is to identify gender, whether a poster wishes it or not

it would seem to behoove you to simply click on their profile first.

and btw, I'd prefer you not refer to me by gender at all, if I could state a preference. I believe people's desire on how they should be addressed is a simple courtesy that everyone deserves.

thanks.

[The Magistrate]

52. Hair-Shirts, Sir, Are Next Aisle Over: Not My Department

[Lerkfish]

53. so you refuse to be courteous under any circumstance?

even when asked?

and you refuse to apologize, even when you offend (my interpretation of your hairshirt reference)?

my, arent' you just the bee's knees of human relations? why the hell are you a mod, then?

[TBF]

124. I think it's nice that the Magistrate is so polite - we could use more of it in society.

But regarding the topic, Lerkfish, I will go on record as saying I would be fine and perhaps even enthusiastic with Hillary as VP. I am not a fan, and my argument has always been that she has too much baggage. But if Obama and his committee feel she is the one, then I am all for it. Time has passed and the country is ripe for change. I didn't like her vote on Iraq, but I think alot of people feel duped on that. It is time to come together and get our ticket elected. There is too much on the line this time.

[JoFerret]

129. Polite is good. Civility is good.

"Sir" and "ma'am" are unnecessary and sometimes perceived at outright offensive. (A minor matter - but there you have it.)

[juajen]

152. Don't pick on Magistrate. He has been on this forum for a long

time and I don't remember anyone ever objecting to his politeness before. I, for one, appreciate it mightily. It is a good thing to be nice and respectful to someone whether you agree with them or not. Magistrate and I don't agree on some things, but I can always depend on him being fair. It's a joy to share this forum with him. In my humble opinion, the world needs more just like him.

It appears to me that you are attempting to change the subject, and/or hijack the thread.

[papapi]

125. I agree. Gender identification is not necessary . . .

that's why my profile says 'undeclared'. I despise being called 'sir' or 'ma'am'. Because of my voice, I am often mis-gendered on the telephone and at drive throughs. And as here, generally no apology is forthcoming.

[sniffa]

161. I recommend putting him on ignore

It's better to miss the obnoxiousness completely. :thumbsup:

[JoFerret]

56. What is it with the sir and ma'am stuff anyway?

.

[ronnykmarshall]

59. It's nicer than asshole and fuck face?

:shrug:

[JoFerret]

60. This is VERY true but are those the only alternatives when it

comes to using words other people find unnecessary, offensive or annoying?

[Lerkfish]

62. if a person requests NOT to be addressed that way, but is anyways, it amounts to the same thing.

[JoFerret]

63. I agree. While such words can not rise to level

of the foul mouthed abuse sometimes found on DU, it certainly amounts to the level of offensive when such a request has been made.

[ronnykmarshall]

64. Oh

[JoFerret]

66. 'Tis an ongoing issue

Hey - as far as the sig goes...are you getting married?

[ronnykmarshall]

67. Last Saturday

I guess I should update my sig line.

[JoFerret]

68. Hurray. Congratulations!

Cheers matey.

[Lerkfish]

61. well, when a person requests not to be addressed that way, and the other

person refuses that request., its a simple FU to the original person, its rude, and intentional flamebait at that point.

[JoFerret]

73. It would seem so.

Some habits may be hard to break and behaviors hard to unlearn but surely it would not be so hard. perhaps there is not a clear understanding how unwelcome it is to be addressed that way.

[papapi]

126. I agree on this point also.

[1Hippiechick]

82. Good question. I personally did not appreciate the magistrate's interrogation of the poster -

Overstepped his/her position and made it abundantly clear--at least to me--that s/he expected the poster to pledge allegiance to HRC should she get the VP nod, going so far to say that it was a decent 50/50 chance--or something to that effect.

I guess I will get deleted for expressing my opinion aobut a mod overstepping.....

[JoFerret]

96. Where's Horace Rumpole

when you need him?

[1Hippiechick]

99. LOL - I had to Wikipedia that one! SWMBO...oh, my...! Would you believe that there is a Rumpole

Society in California?
And, I found out that this is or was broadcast in the US on PBS in the "Mystery" series. Will have to investigate.... (I would have thought that it would have been broadcast on BBC, but the site says PBS...)

[JoFerret]

118. It was on PBS for years

Wonderful stuff.
The old hack of the Bailey had definite opinions about judicial authorities.

[polmaven]

107. "you people"?

Just who are "you people"? Are you perhaps referring to Democrats who happened to disagree with you during the primary season?

Despite some very persistent people, the name of this site is still "DemocraticUnderground". "We people" have as much right to be here and put forth our opinions as you do! That is how democracy works!!!

[bunnies]

37. I cant wait till he finally picks someone.

Maybe these threads will finally stop.

[Adelante]

39. Clark nt

[1Hippiechick]

100. Ditto. n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

44. :chuckle:

[Pisces]

50. no thank you, Obama will do just fine without her.

[lumpy]

108. Evidently Obama needs her enough to help him by stumping

on the campaign trail.

[1Hippiechick]

114. Can we say "Unity?" or, "From many we are one"? His campaign is about change. Change = Unity, IMHO

[lumpy]

121. I was responding to the poster who claims Obama can do just

fine without Clinton. I happen to not agree, OBama needs Clinton supporter votes and sincerely doubt that OBama would refuse all the help Clinton can supply.

[1Hippiechick]

128. And I was responding to your saying that he needs her No, he doesn't , IMHO

I personally believe that their appearance together is to show that differences HAVE be put aside for the sake of the Party and for the sake of taking back the White House, which is paramount. Even Hillary knows that, and she doesn't have the luxury of withholding support - time is of the essence. While her support is still somewhat flat, it would be political suicide to go against the DP. That's why I said

support DP = support O

[ronnykmarshall]

57. I'm down with that!

[Swamp Rat]

58. As long as it is not Lieberman or a repuke...... GEAUX OBAMA!!!

[IowaGirl]

69. For our daughters, our sisters, our mothers and all the females

in this country, a woman vp would help ease their struggles in the workplace with increased credibility.

[hokies4ever]

77. Just not that woman

Hillary doesn't mesh with Obama's message on so many different levels. For example, PAC/lobbyist money. Hillary says that they are Americans too. Obama even barred the DNC from taking PAC money.

[IowaGirl]

93. Please note this factcheck.org comment on Clinton and PACs

"In fact, only about 1 percent of all Clinton's funds have come from PACs or from current or former lobbyists, making the claim that her ads are financed by "lobbyist money" about 99 percent untrue." http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/pac-ing_heat.html

[1Hippiechick]

115. How?

[Prophet 451]

70. Don't think so

First off, Hillary has very high negatives. Half the country said they'd never vote for her before she even started campaigning (in fairness, most of that wasn't her fault) and the areas where she's strong are areas which are likely to go Democratic anyway. Also, I doubt she'd take the job.

That's not to slight Senator Clinton but I think she'd make a better contribution to an Obama administration as Sec of HHS or Education.

Actually, thinking further on that, Obama could easily assemble a team of Democratic all-stars for his Cabinet. Hillary heading up HHS, Edwards to AG or Urban Development, Gore to Interior (if he'd take it, which I doubt).

[paparush]

75. Nah...Hillary for the Supreme Court!

[jillan]

87. That's where I would love to see her.

Either that or Majority leader of the Senate.
She would do a much better job than Reid.

[hokies4ever]

76. Obama needs military / foreign policy experience with his V.P. choice

Sorry, but Hillary doesn't fit that description. Everybody knows that the Republican strategy will be a combination of fear-mongering and "October surprise." The only path to victory the Republicans can see is to attack the Dem ticket as being too risky and weak on foreign policy and military issues.

[InvisibleTouch]

81. I've been saying that for ages...

...or at least since it started to become apparent she wasn't going to win the nom. I wanted her for President, but I'll be almost as happy with a unity ticket. "Hillary for VP" has traditionally been greeted by a paroxism of outrage here, but I don't really care - I think they would make an amazing team. She can be the "attack dog" when needed, while Obama can stay above the fray; they can play "good cop/bad cop" with the rethugs, each maximizing on their strengths. It's an ideal combination.

[1Hippiechick]

84. Do you not honestly think that she would not start campaigning for her own presidency from Day 1?

[lumpy]

110. LOL

too funny

[1Hippiechick]

116. LOL....why?

[lumpy]

122. It was just a funny thing to say, like we should be worrying

about Clinton's spending all her time thinking about running sometime in the future.

[1Hippiechick]

127. That's not what I meant at all. I meant that she would have her own agenda with the intent of under

mining and positioning herself for the Presidency. If that seems funny to you, then you must think that her presidential aspirations are over?

[barack the house]

91. I have no complaints really as long as Bill is more supportive all for it...

We must do everything in our power to get the WH.

[sellitman]

94. This is a great way to bring out the Fundies for McCain.

Energizing the Repiggies is something Obama doesn't need IMHO.

[bvar22]

95. Obama has pledged to keep lobbyists OUT of the White House,

Why would he pick one for VP? :shrug:


The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those
who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners) at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[JKaiser]

98. Hillary is the best person for VP! Yippie!

[JeanGrey]

106. That won't happen.

[Az_lefty]

109. No thanks, she doesn't bring the experience needed to the ticket...

Gen's Clark or Zinni are a must. Either will make up for Obama's lack of military experience and are damned sure more heroic than McSame ever dreamed of being.

[Phx_Dem]

112. No, No and No.

Especially considering the way Bill Clinton has been acting. It's easy to be a gracious winner, but how you lose tells what kind of person you really are. Bill Clinton is acting like a 5-year old who got his tricyle taken away. The last thing Obama needs is someone like that anywhere near the White House.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2211812/Bill-Clinton-says-Barack-Obama-must-'kiss-my-ass'-for-his-support.html

[Lord Helmet]

119. polls actually show her a drag on the ticket

[lumpy]

123. What polls are you refering to ?

x

[Lord Helmet]

148. is your google broken?

[ElsewheresDaughter]

130. YES INDEEDY!!!

[bridgit]

133. Makes way too much sense...America is into image, the absence of mere per se 'sense'...

may therefore never be :)

[antigop]

134. nope. We don't need Bill and Hillary trying to run things. n/t

[greguganus]

138. Oh, not this shit again! n/t

[butterfly77]

142. WRONG...

[mloutre]

143. *yawn* are we still listening to this?

[PresidentObama]

144. I'm game if Obama's game!

Hillary's one of the best!

[Writer]

146. Yarp!

:thumbsup:

[Lord Helmet]

147. she's poison & Obama is too smart to kowtow to pressure

she lost and it's time for some people to let it go

[NoodleyAppendage]

149. Screw that. Hillary represents the past...a past where Dems bent over willingly for the Repukes.

No more. Enough with the DINOs who have brought our party to ruin. F**k her.

J

[retyred]

150. Ask yourself

If it wasn't for bill, would any of you even know who hillery was?

[juajen]

153. If it weren't for Hillary, nobody would know who Bill was.

You should never negate the power of a wife. Bill would certainly agree with me. She's saved his ass on many occasions. Not to say that I want her as VP. I don't.

[goldcanyonaz]

158. If it was not for Hillary you would not know Bill

[scheming daemons]

154. A thousand times NO

[shayes51]

156. She is the best!

Thank you.

[Ioo]

157. Jesus Christ I hope not.

Sorry but there are far better folks out there for the job. Let's put her somewhere where she can do some good for America and the world, not the DO NOTHING job of VP. Sec Def or something.

[BlooInBloo]

159. I love the little ways Clinton supporters have found to re-live primary season

[elkston]

160. I agree, they look great together.

I want to see more embracing, touching, kissing, etc.