Breaking: McCain's California home in tax default; havn't paid taxes in four years

[TeamJordan23]

Newsweek is set to publish a highly embarrassing report on Sen. John McCain, revealing that the McCains have failed to pay taxes on their beach-front home in La Jolla, California, for the last four years and are currently in default, The Huffington Post has learned.

Under California law, once a residential property is in default for five years, it can be sold at a tax sale to recover the unpaid taxes for the taxpayers.

The McCains own at least seven homes through a variety of trusts and corporations controlled by Cindy McCain.

McCain campaign scrambling... Developing...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/28/mccains-failed-to-pay-tax_n_109785.html

[ruggerson]

1. And if he can't be trusted to keep his own taxes current

how can he be trusted with OUR tax dollars?

[texastoast]

67. He thinks "our" tax dollars are his

evidently.

[Phillycat]

151. There's your soundbite right there.

[bunnies]

2. !

:spray: Fucking AWESOME!!

[Disturbed]

4. Four years of ignoring property taxes?

What would happen to anyone else that did this?

[bunnies]

9. Well... there would already be a lien on it thats for sure.

And the bank would probably already be foreclosing. But hey... the uber-rich dont have to play by the same rules as us poor shmucks. Its the people without money that get porked the hardest.

[Spider Jerusalem]

158. Arrears on taxation, not mortgage default

I rather doubt the property has an outstanding mortgage. And it's standard practice that after five years' default on taxes, the property is auctioned by the State.

[rucognizant]

102. A Good Neighbor...........

I was only earning $5.000. per year, so wound up in another state working at a job there, with tenent in my house ( owned, no mortgage, trying to save it)
My neighbor got wind of the news that my tenent was planning to buy my house cheap at a tax sale, and wrote me a letter. My daughter and son-in -law fortuntely were able to pay the back taxes............
That tenant was real scum a con man ( confidence inspiring) He had his friends who helped him move in, bring me several boxes of things I had stored, and needed. They brought them to where I worked ( a 550 mile trip) and put them right in my truck. ( He was from Philly, I was in Jersey, the house was in Maine) But, after the first month, he never paid rent for 8 months..........At least I didn't have to pay a lawyer to extricate him from the house, but in vengance he tried a smear on my reputation, but the Postmaster recognized his handwriting and pulled all the letters & reported him.
He then subscribed me to over 300 magazines, ( World wrestling Federation to a female artist in her 50's!)forcing me to spend most of the summer calling and cancelling them!
I sued him in small claims court and won $3,000. BUT he declared bankruptcy, ( in spite of my giving the bank account numbers of his 2 out of state bank accounts)
14 years later I am still $3.000. behind trying to play catch up. What would the interest have been on that money through the 90's? But I OWN the house, & on my SS income, couldn't afford the poorest rent anywhere!
LAst I heard of that guy, he had caretaken a house through the winter & TRASHED IT!
He was ON PROZAC! & PERCADIN!
Way to go BIG PHARMA!

[LiberalEsto]

129. One small suggestion

It sounds like you had an awful encounter with a total scumbag.

I once won a small claims court judgement, but the person refused to pay. Someone told me to file a lien against her house, so I did it. I waited about 20 years, but when she finally sold her house, she was forced to pay all the liens she owed, and I got my $300. She turned out to have a lot of people that she owed money to.

You might check if there's some way you can file a lien against him.

[ejpoeta]

119. we don't even get two before they sell our house

but that's county/school taxes. and that's ny.... wny.

[oldtime dfl_er]

123. Don't Republicans always ignore taxes?

He'll finagle a way out of this. They all do. Taxes are for suckers.

[babylonsister]

3. Boo hoo! Maybe he can bunk in with the Romneys when he's visiting

if they lose the house.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/romney_californ.html

But seriesle, what's up with this? Doesn't this family have accountants and people who take care of the petty issues such as this? Makes no sense to me. An oversight? That's a biggie...

[tblue37]

23. I am reminded of Paris Hilton's response when a judge

chastised her for failing to comply with the terms of a legal arrangement after she got into trouble. She said she wasn't aware of what she was supposed to do, because no one told her. The judge pointed out that a letter was sent to her, but she explained that she doesn’t read her own mail:

I have people who do that for me,” she told a judge. And legal documents and traffic citations elude her. “I just sign what people tell me to sign," she testified.” http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/07/arts/peeptue.php

[speedoo]

62. Mittens can't seriously think a California residence could help him politically?

Maybe he's looking at succeeding Arnold?

WTF?

[harmonicon]

73. no, it's La Jolla

It's an area just north of the city of San Diego. Loads and loads of rich old white people live there. It is, I think, the most disgusting place I've ever been to in my life. I'm sure they go there because it's on the beach, but they don't have to deal with anything like culture that might confront them in other communities.

[speedoo]

81. Gotcha.

Mittens and his lily-white family of idiots should fit right in.

[harmonicon]

82. yeah...

I read elsewhere (since I posted that), that it's a relative of his wife (an aunt or something) who actually lives in the house. Those are the sort of people who live there, for sure. McCain is too much of a young whipper-snapper himself.

[MindPilot]

109. Helluva wide brush you got there

There is a least one DU'er I know of who lives in La Jolla. My ex-wife--probably more liberal than me--lives in La Jolla. One of my very liberal co-workers and friends live in La Jolla. And none of them are anywhere near rich.

Disgusting? No Culture? Find someplace else to spew your shit.

[BlueJazz]

112. Yep ..An old friend of mine used to live there. He's quite the Liberal.

Maybe the poster just had some bad experiences...

[MindPilot]

113. Possible. Maybe the valet lost his keys.

:D

[harmonicon]

134. shit? La Jolla? Yeah, the two go together

I've maintained for some time that Los Angeles is the toilet of American, and Sand Diego is the bidet. Yeah, I know that lots of different people live there. I have a friend who's lived there, and it's not as if I've only ever been there because my car broke down or something. I'm so sorry that I disrupted your message board with my opinion. Do you know of one where I'm welcome to post my own opinion? I think that would fascinate me.

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[Kajsa]

118. La Jolla is the home base for Scripps,

one of the best centers for the studies in Oceanography
in the country.

http://www.sio.ucsd.edu/

--not devoid of culture and education.

[MindPilot]

127. The La Jolla Art Museum, Salk Institute, UCSD Medical School,

UCSD School of Law and the La Jolla Playhouse which has opened, among other shows, "Tommy" and "The Jersey Boys".

Also La Jolla is home to dozens of bio-tech companies.

More culture and education than you can shake a rich old white guy at!

[Kajsa]

132. Absolutely!

And it's a beautiful spot on our planet.

:D :toast:

[harmonicon]

136. "....which has opened, among other shows, "Tommy" and "The Jersey Boys""

Culturecide!! Whoa.... those are facts that I would try to hide if attempting to talk-up a place.

[MindPilot]

152. The only thing worse than an elitist prick...

is the number of them I run into here on DU. It is the primary reason I don't donate anymore.

[harmonicon]

135. I didn't say that it was devoid of education

That's where UCSD is, where I have friends who go to school and teach. They're some of the best in the world. The town still sucks. It's not as if there's anything indigenous to La Jolla, culture-wise. Every hear people talk about La Jolla style blues? country? No. It's a wasteland in that regard. Traditional La Jolla cooking? No.

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[Kajsa]

155. I get what you're saying, however---

there is no Santa Monica style blues,
no traditional Santa Monica cooking,
no Santa Monica dialect( that I know of)

yet--

Santa Monica
( aka the Republic of Santa Monica) ;)
is one of the most interesting cities
on the southern West Coast.

I know- I grew up there.

:)

The people make the town.
With the influence of several institutions
of higher learning, I doubt that La Jolla is
a cultural wasteland.

[harmonicon]

157. sure...

but Santa Monica might as well be Paris or Amsterdam when it comes to culture and diversity compared to La Jolla. I've been to Santa Monica several times - on purpose! - and only regretted it a minority of those times. :)

[Tektonik]

154. You're a tool

Have you ever been to La Jolla? There's plenty of rich people here, but there's also many liberals and lots of culture.

Some parts are disgusting like the luxury shops on Prospect or some of the houses on Mount Soledad, but at the same time there's UCSD, the loads of quaint beach homes, the museums, La Jolla Cove, the Children's Pool, Black's Beach, etc.

[harmonicon]

159. really? I'm a "tool"? Thanks - real mature

Yes, of course I've been there, which is how I am able to form an opinion about the place. Man, I read shit that people write on this website all of the time saying bad things about so-called "red states" and the people who live in them, but if I state my opinion on a particular town that I've been to and think is complete shit, it's like I just pissed on your mother's grave. What the hell is it with people on this board and La Jolla? Really?

[Tektonik]

160. You're wrong that's all

Painting a broad brush on a large community is loathsome.

La Jolla is more than the huge homes on the hills and cliffs.

[Merlot]

5. Don't expect the repubs to hold it against him

Not paying taxes is something they admire.

Of course, the average homeowner may not look on it to fondly.

[kenny blankenship]

6. BEAUTIFUL

I can hear it now: "Pay your damn taxes like all the little people do, you goddamn trollop! "

[Kahuna]

7. "Beach-front home is La Jolla?" Nah. He's not an elite. Obama is..

:wtf:

[Cali_Democrat]

61. LOL

La Jolla is for the super elite.

[sniffa]

8. I can't believe I'm the first Rec

:rofl:

[Ian David]

10. He expects Jesusn to Rapture him before The IRS comes after him. n/t

[formercia]

99. The rapture doesn't come

and everyone that bought into it still owe the money. I wonder how much of the financial crisis was caused by rapture-ready true-believers that went on a 'last-minute' spending spree?

[Ian David]

100. Probably more than most people would believe. n/t

[formercia]

101. Why hast thou forsaken me?

I guess God had more important things to do that day.

Free Will, a life-forming experience.

[Cleita]

11. Since too much California property is owned by out of staters and

people from foreign shores (lots of Saudis), I wonder why our elected officials don't do a study of how many of these defaulters don't pay their taxes. It's especially egregious since our property taxes are only 1%. Maybe Arnold could find the money to balance the state books if he sent the collectors after them.

[redstate_democrat]

12. WTF? Let me miss paying my property taxes and see how fast the county

comes after my ass. I would be getting all kinds of threatening letters to seize my shit. McCain ratbastard tax evading ass can get away with it because he is a senator just like his drug addict wife got off federal charges for stealing narcotics.

[nc4bo]

13. Oh, this is priceless! Economic experience my ass!!

[MH1]

14. SEVEN homes?

Well, whatever, but I'll bet the freepers who were hounding the Kerrys in 2004 about their homes (mostly owned by Teresa - I think he owns half of the house in Boston) will be completely silent on McCain's SEVEN.

[mcg]

80. according to one web page, TEN properties, valued at $13,823,269

http://www.mccainvminnesota.com/cribs.html

[TBF]

15. Ha! Couldn't happen to a nicer couple...

:rofl:

[papapi]

16. Once again Clone McShame lives up to the moniker I have given him. . .

I missed one year of taxes on my house while I was waiting for SS disability and the County Treasurer was sending me 'public auction' letters.

[DRoseDARs]

17. Oh sweet Jesus, we simply MUST let this man ran our country and fix the economy 9/11 broke.

:sarcasm:

[lumberjack_jeff]

18. Taxes are for the little people. n/t

[mzmolly]

19. Jeeze, that's not good!

For them, that is. ;)

[Faygo Kid]

20. So much wealth, he can't keep track. Kerry was that wealthy through his wife, but he kept track.

Hell, even Rove and the Swift Boaters did not accuse Kerry of this.

This is going to hurt. Won't even be reported on Faux News, but Keith will get it.

[Eyes_wide_ open]

21. Wow

First Blowjob and Diaper with their marriage protection bill now this?

Mainstream news might choke on it, but the comics are going to have a field day :rofl:

[intheflow]

22. Sadly, this story will die.

Just like the stories about Bush's failed businesses died. I'm always amazed at how hard the CM work at being willfully ignorant. :(

[FrenchieCat]

24. It doesn't have to die, if we don't let it.

We don't seem to let stories such as fingergate and Snubgate die.....I'm not sure why we should let this one.

YOu see if the media read the Bloggers talking about it, they will not want to have some other Media vulture getting all of the glory.

If we get as upset with this as some did in reference to Edwards' house, Clinton's taxes not being released, and Obama's Rezco, then we have a chance.

So if we aren't interested, why would the Corporate media?

[hokies4ever]

28. That's the spirit FrenchieCat!

Plus we all know that Olbermann is just drooling, unable to wait to get to Monday's Countdown to talk about this. :rofl:

[intheflow]

40. Very true.

But then, we were pretty interested, loud, and obvious when we took to the streets across the country and across the world leading up to the invasion, but the media ignored that so well that my mother (in rural Michigan) hadn't heard about the protests until I showed her photos I took. Sadly, there are a lot of older folks who tend to not surf the blogs but who do tend to show up and vote. And even when they hear about stuff all-afire online, when the CM actually reports it, they dismiss it as being from that crazy, young, blogoshere crowd. Really, the Repukes have stolen two elections but if people aren't taking to the streets protesting electronic voting, they'll forget about McCain's lack of paying taxes in just one short news cycle.




God, I'm getting cynical. :(


*Edited to add, I think the one place this would play very well is in a campaign ad. Obama's been putting out awesome campaign ads. And if there's one thing you can count on it's that station's bottom line will trump corporate ideology almost every time--so they'll take Obama's money and air the ads. :D

[sellitman]

25. *****McTAX-GATE*******

:party: :toast: :evilgrin: :think: :wow: :thumbsup: :hi: :kick: :headbang: :woohoo: :applause: :rofl:

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[babylonsister]

27. Not that I know of. There was a rumor awhile ago. Got a link to support

that claim?

[Analitico]

32. In fact, it was news. Not a rumor (Associated Press)

Via ABC News

MSNBC pundit Keith Olbermann, who spotlights misbehavior nightly with his "Worst Person in the World" recognition, owes New York state for unpaid business taxes, according to a tax warrant notice.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=5006105

[babylonsister]

42. That's old, and was resolved. Ax to grind perhaps?

http://www.webcpa.com/article.cfm?articleid=28127

Keith Olbermann Hit with New York Tax Bill

New York (June 17, 2008)
By WebCPA staff
|

MSNBC host Keith Olbermann was on the receiving end of a tax warrant from New York State charging him with $2,269.50 in back taxes for his Los Angeles-based business, Olbermann Broadcasting Empire.

An MSNBC spokesperson told the Associated Press that the matter was a bookkeeping disagreement between Olbermann's accountants and New York State that had been resolved months ago.

Olbermann's show, "Countdown with Keith Olbermann," has proven to be a popular draw on MSNBC, but has provoked ire for frequently lampooning President Bush, Sen. Hillary Clinton and rival Bill O'Reilly at Fox News Channel.

[Raine]

44. I smell pizza is this one's

near future, sniff, sniff. x(

[Tatiana]

70. PIZZA DELIVERED.

:toast:

[Analitico]

45. "An MSNBC spokesperson said..."

hmmm, not necessarily a fair party making that statement.

[babylonsister]

46. So? You cited ABC! Bwhahaha!

If there was any 'there' there with this, why hasn't there been any further stories on it? I'm sure Olbermann has made enemies; it'd be all over these 'tubes' if there was any validity.

[Analitico]

51. I don't get it

I cited ABC. And? I cited an AP report that ABC carried. AP is not an interested party, unlike the ANONYMOUS "MSNBC spokesman", who is an interested party, being part of Olbermann's channel.

And what's with the logic that "There were no further stories therefore Olbermann didn't owe taxes" logic? That's not a logical argument, my friend.

[babylonsister]

57. Have you heard of the AP's bias? And as far as there not being

further stories, don't think for a second that if there was something to report as far as gossip and Olbermann, it's being withheld. You find me proof to the contrary and I'll reconsider. 'K?

AP BIAS: most people on DU are aware of it: I got 1,730,000 hits, approximately...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Associated+Press+bias&btnG=Google+Search

[suziedemocrat]

98. I'm not sure this is such a big story anyway,

Her elderly Aunt lives in the condo. It is owned by a trust that a bank manages. The tax bills went to a bad address and got returned. Bank doing a crappy job. Maybe even Cindy dropping the ball. But this doesn't say much about John McCain - imo.

More and more the Dems are stooping to yellow-journalism and Drudge-like attacks. Very sad, imo. Are we going to play tit-for-tat because of how Kerry and his wife were treated.

[yardwork]

114. Four years?

My mortgage company failed to pay the taxes held in escrow one year, and we heard about it two months later - with a very serious letter from the county, a penalty, and the demand that we pay up immediately. We were shocked that the mortgage company hadn't done what they were supposed to do, but the county didn't budge on the penalty. We got the taxes and penalty paid within a week.

McCain is in default for FOUR YEARS.

[tyedyeto]

148. It is the responsibility of the property owner, bad address or not, .....

to ensure that all proparty taxes are paid. 4 years is way too long for anyone (rich or poor) to ignore taxes that they owe on property they own.

And, I don't give a rat's ass if the property is some sort of trust-owned property by his wife, McShame should make sure that his wife doesn't cross the line and if she does, then HE must pay the price, especially if it is bad PR for his campaign.

[Raine]

50. Who do you consider a "fair party"

FOX? Careful now don't give yourself away.

[Analitico]

54. What does Fox have to do with this?

The AP, who issued the report, is a fair party in this case. Careful with the strawmen.

[nc4bo]

76. sorry to say but the owner of the Fox News Network (NewsCorp)....

SITS on the board of the Associated Press.

[blondeatlast]

48. Referring to your SL question...

Yes, I believe so.

[Tatiana]

68. THANK YOU for correcting that misinformation, babylonsis.

:hug:

[BlooInBloo]

29. Welcome! I hope you enjoy your stay!

:hi:

[Raine]

41. Olbermann is NOT running for POTUS

so WHY are you even bringing this up, gee could it because he's not a McSAME ass kisser like most of the MSM, hmmmmmmm.

[blondeatlast]

47. He paid 'em up as soon as he realized it. there's this "Google" thing--try it, you'll like it. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

53. What does that have to do with anything?

Is Olbermann running for President?

[cbc5g]

30. I can only imagine what Drudge would have blinking on his page if Obama did that

7 HOUSE OWNING ELITIST OBAMA FAILS TO PAY TAXES ON LEFT COAST HOME, DEVELOPING...

[Analitico]

36. Drudge said very little about the Wright and Bitter controversies

I think Drudge has changed. He's not as crazy as he was in the past.

[cbc5g]

37. Don't fall into that trap...He's just like Dick Morris

Went after Clinton in the primaries and will go after Obama in the general...Watch.

[Doctor_J]

39. 3...2...1...

someone hit the gong for Analidiot

[blondeatlast]

49. I called it almost a week ago... nt

[asdjrocky]

31. How much dose someone want to bet-

That we see nothing about this on TV?

[opihimoimoi]

33. OMG...I can see 1 yea...maybe 2....but 4 is all fucked up...I wonder if he forgets to wipe his ass

when doing the #2.....?

[Gabi Hayes]

83. it'll get a day or two's play...not on the Sunday shows, of course, and then

go the way of the Charlie Black story.....I may be wrong, and I hope I am, but what evidence is there to support the idea that this important symbolic message will have any effect on McCain's narrated image as the stand-up truthtelling maverick? they'll find a way to turn it around by describing any attempt by the dems to keep it running as "tiresome," which is EXACTLY the word Jay Carney used to characterize Richard benVeniste's call for Black's firing, one DAY after that story broke. One day of coverage was too TIRING for Carney to suffer. that's what Obama faces.

or the McCain lying about supporting the recent Veterans' bill

did you see ANYthing at all about that on TV the last few days?

if you thought media coverage in 2000 and 2004 was horrendous, you'll be BEGGING for that sort of fair and balanced coverage after the conventions have come and gone. they're just getting warmed up

the racist aspects of this campaign are going to blow you away; just watch and see

you saw what Norquist said. did you see ANY mention of that on TV, about which it's been said that if you don't see it there, it didn't happen, and I didn't see it there, and it's too late for it to be a story any more

[opihimoimoi]

97. Yup, you are so right...Them Pubs got the Media sewed up...this story will surely die

Unless, its revived periodically...

[Doctor_J]

34. Brit Hume calls is another "senior moment"

OMFG - Candidate Mitt, anyone? Even Big Media is going to have trouble spinning this one.

[BlooInBloo]

35. Taxes are for the little people.

[tomreedtoon]

78. Stole the words from my mouth!

This may be a valuable way to talk about McCain. What else has he done with his taxes? Or not done? Maybe he's got some Hispanic house help that are illegal immigrants - you know, the kind that he wants to expel? - working for pesos.

[Doctor_J]

38. Under his tax plan, he'll have an extra $400,000 to help with that

that will be his federal tax reduction if he gets his way.

[dontforgetpoland]

43. Move along, nothing to see here.

I have a hard time believing that any national or television media would report a negative story about McCain.
This story will go ignored like all McCain's blunders.

[Cali_Democrat]

52. WOW

:wow:

[Hawaii Hiker]

55. McCain's didn't pay their taxes, own 7 homes, & Obama is the elitist - Yeah, Ok, Sure

You know damn well if this was the other way around, Refucklicans would run ads 24-7 from now until election day....

Democrats must take advantage of this - I can see an ad now "John McCain can't keep his own finances in order, how can we trust him with the economy of everyday Americans"....

John W McBush: "Financial Fuck-up in Chief" -

:dunce:

[fishwax]

60. no kidding -- this is definitely an issue

[Fleshdancer]

56. The taxes owed seems ridiculously low

Approx $8400 owed in taxes on beach front property in CA?

:wtf:

[razors edge]

59. It's probably polluted

from offshore drilling, without a permit.

[MindPilot]

110. Um, no.

Did it hurt when you pulled that assumption out of your ass?

[razors edge]

120. Not really,

do you always have such a hard time picking up on sarcasm?

[MindPilot]

126. Sometimes I do. Sorry if i misconstrued...

Seems like there has been an inordinate amount of cali-bashing (for lack of a better term) on DU recently; I'm a little hypersensitive.

Again my apologies if I misinterpreted your remarks.

[razors edge]

128. No prob.

I like cali, thinking of ditching Ohio to move out to Frisco with my sis. :hi:

[Gabi Hayes]

86. according to this, real estate taxes in California depend more on WHEN they were purchased than

what they're worth:
Warren Buffet's case is the example:


http://wealthandwant.com/docs/Buffett_Prop13.html


What I said in respect to property taxes was very specific. I gave him an example of three houses, two in Laguna Beach and one in Omaha.

The first Laguna Beach house is a property that I bought in the early 1970s. It has a current market value of about $4 million and, because of the limitations embodied in Proposition 13, carried taxes of only $2,264 in 2003 vs. $2,241 in 2002.
The second house, located just in back of the first, is one that I purchased in the mid-1990s. It has a market value of about $2 million and, simply because I bought it later than the first, carried taxes of $12,002 in 2003 vs. $11,877 in 2002.
I pointed out to Joe that these figures mean that the tax rate on the second house -- same neighborhood, same owner, same ability to pay -- is roughly 10 times the rate on the first house.

I then referenced my house in Omaha, which I believe to be worth about $500,000 (though it's assessed at $690,000). Taxes on it were $14,401 in 2003 and $12,481 in 2002.



market
value
property
taxes
2003
taxes as
share of
market value
Index

Laguna Beach (purchased early 1970s)
$4,000,000
$2,264
.0566%
100

Laguna Beach (purchased mid 1990s) $2,000,000 $12,002
.6001%
1060

Omaha
$500,000
$14,401
2.8802%


...........


the above numbers are based on the table at the link....couldn't reproduce here, but they show the difference in rates, which, especially in California are STRIKING--->.0566 percent vs. .6001 percent, 10 times higher for one property, which sits right next to the other, the only difference being when they were bought

[MindPilot]

107. In CA taxes are based on the value of the home at the time of purchase

I paid $195,000 for my house in 1996, and even though the value of my house is now around $600,000, my property taxes are $2200 per year.

[Fleshdancer]

131. I never knew that

That doesn't make sense to me, but I guess it's good for people in CA who have owned their property for a long time.

[Analitico]

58. This reminds me of Al Franken's tax problems

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0408/9986.html

[motorcity]

63. And Franken caught a lot of shit for it. Do you think McCain should catch a lot of shit for it?

Franken dropped about 5% in the polls afterwards, what do you think will happen to McCain?

[speedoo]

64. Happily, you were dismissed before...

I had the pleasure of responding.

[truthisfreedom]

93. Franken paid his taxes to Minnesota when they were owed to other states. It was an accountant's poor

analysis and recommendations that screwed Al up. This is nothing like that... this is McCain simply NOT PAYING at all.

[Occam Bandage]

122. Agreed. Franken's problems badly hurt him as a Senate candidate. McCain's ought hurt him too.

[Duder]

65. The economy is so bad...

Poor John McCain can't pay his property tax.

[DeeDeeNY]

104. He also can't pay his Amex bill either

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6364703

[ellacott]

66. Newsweek has the story online

http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/

[Stinky The Clown]

69. The house belongs to the unindicted felon, not the candidate.

What a surprise.

[EVDebs]

71. Only the little people pay taxes, you fools nt

[quantass]

72. Dont worry..the MSM wont make it a story.

[slinkerwink]

74. wow!

[ShadowLiberal]

75. And he claims that he's fiscally responsible? We need to use this against him in TV/Web ads

[Mz Pip]

77. So many homes

... so hard to keep track of them all. Another senior moment, perhaps?

Must be tough.

[FrenchieCat]

79. Kicking

cause I can!

[ellacott]

84. This comment posted on the Newsweek site is priceless

Comment: I'll make a donation toward Cindy McCain's tax bill if I can use the La Jolla Shores home to host an Obama fundraising party!
It's a shame all these nice homes go unoccupied, just sitting there for when the ultra-rich decide to jet in for a weekend....I'd say that's ELITIST!!!
http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/output/comments

[agentS]

92. ROFL

8 Homes....$20 million dollars
Beer Empire....$100 million dollars

Not paying taxes on one of your houses....worthless

There are some things that people won't tolerate. For everyone else, there's John McCain.

And just think; they could have had Ron Paul on the ticket.

[Alexander]

85. K&R. Don't let this die, folks!

[Gabi Hayes]

87. this may be the place:

http://mainstusa.blogspot.com/2008/04/john-mccains-lavish-wealth-and-why.html

the link above describes various properties, and has other pix, including this one, which the McCains describe as a 'cabin'

[nytemare]

88. This is on Digg's front page.

Interesting, indeed.

http://digg.com/politics/McCains_Failed_To_Pay_Taxes_On_California_Home_For_4_Years

[Gabi Hayes]

90. so how come Mrs. Kerry got slaughtered because she owned so many homes, and the McCain's

owning SEVEN has gotten zero mention, while the M$M is only too happy to advance the meme that Obama is the elitist? shades of Bush v. Gore, Bush v. Kerry?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3528640#3528845

[GOPBasher]

89. They must balance their own budget as well as the GOP always balances the federal

budget.

[Divine Discontent]

91. like - this isn't real - I mean wow.. this kind of thing would sink a NORMAL candidate

this is embarrassing - you mean to tell me NONE of the other campaigns for office, like Romney or Giuliani, could vet this info???

Shocking...

this crap is enough to slam him with, for regular folks, and help sink him in Iowa/Indiana and possibly Missouri...



New Pro-Obama and Anti-Mcsame Items!
www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable

[truthisfreedom]

94. And... it hits NEWSWEEK, ladies and gentlemen.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/

[Hope And Change]

95. Kick!

[hoffyburger]

96. The GOP Shadow Govt has begun the process of installing

The GOP Shadow Govt has begun the process of installing their candidate. McCain is untenable at the top of the ticket now. Who steps forward will tell us a lot, about what the future will hold for Obama.

[JoFerret]

103. Greatly entertaining story

I hope it has long and muscular legs.

[DeeDeeNY]

106. Like Vicki Iseman??

Another story that fell off the face of the earth by mainstream media --

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/22/us/politics/22mccain.html?_r=1&sq=John%20Mccain%20lobbyist&st=cse&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&scp=11&adxnnlx=1214744291-Q2d+LTPPngOm3dlY5bGARA

[Arthurtheking]

105. kick n/t

[happygoluckytoyou]

108. sorry....HER HOUSE... information private.... BLACKWATER called in to mop up

[lebkuchen]

111. and his wife is as rich as hell

Isn't that the way it always is?

How goddamn cheap can the McCains be?

[tekisui]

115. Is this not tax evasion or tax fraud?

What other tax oversights have they participated in?

[Muttocracy]

116. wow. Here people's houses go up for auction

in a year or two with less debt than that. Can't the McCains hire some lawyers and accountants? How would they run the White House?!

[Iwillnevergiveup]

117. Cross-posting about McCain's playmate LIEberman

Glen Greenwald of Brave New Films has a petition up at liebermanmustgo.com

"Demand the Steering Committee remove Joe Lieberman's position within the Democratic caucus."

1 fraud + 1 fraud = 2 frauds.

[Occam Bandage]

121. The party of personal responsibility! Except, you know, theirs.

[Gabi Hayes]

124. see any mention of this today on the shows?

I didn't

didn't see everything, but I did see the entire ABC roundatable, and Arianna/Katrina didn't mention it. nobody else did

surprised?

[ramapo]

125. Dump McCain?

Between this and his generally poor performance as a candidate, I'd be surprised if there is not a dump McCain movement prior to the Repub convention. Wouldn't that be fun to watch?

[Napoleon Bonaparte]

130. Media Matters has an article about this

How John Edwards' finances were scrutinized, yet this story is nowhere to be seen.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200806270008?f=h_top

[Disturbed]

133. Is this the house that Mrs. McCain stayed in for a few months

while she recovered from a stroke that occurred because she stopped taking her high blood pressure meds? She said that she stopped because at 49 she thought that she was too young to be taking that med.

[yardwork]

139. Welcome to DU! Very good point.

Although nobody would accuse John McCain of getting $400 haircuts. If only somebody could talk him out of the comb over!

[me b zola]

137. Prolly just one of the reasons why they refused to release Cindy's tax info

The people born of uber-privilege have the unmitigated nerve to call Obama 'elite', meanwhile they don't even pay their taxes.

Additional personal outrage: We pay higher taxes on our modest home then the mcCain's (are supposed to) do on their 4 million dollar beach house. :grr: :argh:

[Phx_Dem]

138. He's unfit to manage the county.

"If you can't manage your own house, you certainly can't manage the White House!"
-Michelle Obama, Iowa, 2007

[David Zephyr]

140. John McCain: He cheats on his wife, he cheats on his taxes...and he'll cheat on America.

JWhat a mooch. I hope California's AG, Jerry Brown, goes after this cheat.

[Quantess]

143. I like it!

You can't trust a cheater.

[David Zephyr]

144. LOL!

:)

[Canuckistanian]

141. My wife made a good point. This is a failure of his CAMPAIGN

A good campaign committee should KNOW EVERYTHING about their candidate, whether good or bad.

If it's good, incorporate it.

If it's bad, fix it or prepare something immediately for damage control.

It seems like Team McCain was caught with it's pants down on this one.

[baldguy]

142. Only little people pay taxes.

[Historic NY]

145. Taxes are for the little people, he is one of the elite............

one should explore how his non-payment impacts the community, its services, education system etc.I hope his penalties are stiff.

[Chulanowa]

146. Man. Not even elected and already comitting crimes

Dude's trying to beat Bush out of the stall.

[hasssan1]

147. Cheating bastard

He is a sham and cheater. He is a shame to this country even as a senator.

[Barack_America]

149. What an idiot. Don't the Republicans vet their candidates?

Somewhere Mitt Romney is crying in his beer. It could've been his.

[catgirl]

156. Kick!