DO NOT LET IT BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO STEAL.

[helderheid]

This election MUST NOT be close enough to steal, or steal it they will. Remember 2000, 2002, 2004, but also remember 2006. Fuck you Karl Rove and your math.

DO NOT LET IT BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO STEAL.

[whistle]

1. Well if nothing changes, then nothing will change

...What has been done the make sure our election can't be stolen? Not much, if fact nothing!

[helderheid]

3. remember 2006

if it isn't close enough to steal, it can't be stolen.

[LakeSamish706]

4. The big question is, why if Dems. have been in control of both houses....

haven't they made a serious effort to fix the voting machines that are giving us grief?

[helderheid]

6. I can't answer this, other than most are beholden to the corps as much as the Rs

[LakeSamish706]

10. That is very scary indeed, and basically translates to nothing will change. n/t

[ladjf]

8. That is just one of the many questions I have about the performance

of the Democrats in the Senate and the House. It simply makes no sense. All we've got is unsubstantiated suspicions. If Obama gets elected along with greater majorities in the House and Senate and still nothing good happens,we will know that the permanent Coup D'etat has happened.

[salguine]

21. 'Cause they're self-serving, spineless, craven, servile pussies without one ball among them.

[whistle]

9. I've never been convinced that we had all the votes properly assigned

...for our side in many of the races from 2006. There were countless situations where vote theft took place and look at how the reTHUGs in congress have been able to stalemate congress. We sent many packing, but still it was not enough to make any difference. We will have to win BIG in November or it can't work

[helderheid]

11. oh they stole 2006 alright. Just not OUTRIGHT. We have to show in overwhelming numbers.

[FrenchieCat]

5. There has been tiny things done.....

but there needs to be a whole lot more.

Senator Obama agrees....but the rest of the senate did not.
and Senator Obama is doing other things, like bringing in new voters
into the frey.


OBAMA'S US SENATE RECORD:
S.1975 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 11/8/2005) Cosponsors (4)
Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
Latest Major Action: 11/8/2005 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.

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S.4102 : A bill to amend the Communications Act of 1934 to prohibit the use of telecommunications devices for the purposes of preventing or obstructing the broadcast or exchange of election-related information.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 12/7/2006) Cosponsors (None) Committees: Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation
Latest Major Action: 12/7/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.
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S.4069 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.

Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack (introduced 11/16/2006) Cosponsors (4)
Committees: Senate Rules and Administration
Latest Major Action: 11/16/2006 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on Rules and Administration.
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Obama's organizing history may give few clues about what policies he would pursue as President, but Obama the presidential candidate still shows his roots--a faith in ordinary citizens, a quest for common ground and a pragmatic inclination toward defining issues in winnable ways.

Even when Obama was an organizer, Augustine-Herron told him he would be the nation's first black President. Now the Rev. Alvin Love, whom Obama recruited to DCP, looks at his candidacy and says, "Everything I see reflects that community organizing experience. I see the consensus-building, his connection to people and listening to their needs and trying to find common ground. I think at his heart Barack is a community organizer. I think what he's doing now is that. It's just a larger community to be organized."
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070416/moberg

What Obama has done in the past, not including what he has done thus far during the primaries; bringing new voters into the frey.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. This is the most important message of our election...

K&R

:patriot:

[helderheid]

7. My dear CaliforniaPeggy.

:hug: and thanks!

[whistle]

12. I second that...k&r

[elocs]

13. That's why it is important to maintain as big a lead as possible.

I disagree with those who claim that Obama has such a big lead that he can afford to give up some points and take some controversial stances. Every point that he leads McCain by is important.

As a Democrat I am not exactly proud of the fact that it was no state secret in 2004 that the Republicans would steal the election and then succeeded. It makes it look like they are either the genius masters of the universe or the Democrats are inept and cannot stop their pockets from being picked, or both.

I can remember in recent years one of the Florida NFL teams lost a game at the end on a very controversial call, but their coach did not whine or complain about being robbed. He simply said they should never have allowed the game to be so close that it could be stolen from them at the end on a bad call. This election is the same way--we cannot allow it to be close and that's the best way to keep it from being stolen.

Staying with the football analogy, I don't want Democrats to be like the wide receiver who every time he misses a pass he is pointing his finger and wanting a flag because he believes he was fouled. He comes across looking like a crybaby. I want it to get to the point where if a Democrat loses it is because they have lost fair and square (there is this outside chance that in some places the people might actually prefer the Republican candidate to the Democratic candidate).

[whistle]

15. That's whistling into the wind isn't it, we need to make sure that the

...voting process is secure and not corrupted and to report all incidents where the reTHUGlicon operatives interfere, including the voting machines. Exit polls at every precinct right up to closing time so these freeper bastards can't steal without being caught red-handed. That won't prevent all vote theft but it sure will deter the most blatant attempts and even the sutler and sneaky efforts by repuke operatives. In their faces and confrontations, neighborhood watch style.

[elocs]

19. There's no reason for the 2 things to be mutually exclusive. We can do both. n/t

[KaryninMiami]

14. We need a landslide- period. A massive, fucking, CANNOT BE DENIED

LANDSLIDE.

[whistle]

16. Stand guard then at the voting precincts with exit polls as audit checks

...and don't accept any close calls without recounts

[KaryninMiami]

18. I've done it for years- but you can't count what's in the machines if there's no paper ballot.

You can count the number of voters, you can count the number of votes cast, you can watch them take the tapes out of the machines, store them carefully in their proper containers to be hand delivered to the main election center- but whether those tapes match the actual votes cast is not something we are ever able to determine- not without access to the source codes. Pretty easy to steel a few hear and a few there- a few minor programming changes in a few districts, some "machine malfunctioning" here and there, a few neighborhoods (mostly Democratic and near college campuses) where there are no where nearly enough machines provided for the population. Few thousand here, few thousand there. Welcome to 2000, 2002, 2004 and 2006 (we should have won a landslide in Congress- we barely squeeked by because they didn't rig it quite enough).

That's why we need a landslide and we need the people to pay attention so that we are ready to make sure that they DO NOT STEAL IT. Period.

[helderheid]

17. LANDSLIDE TIDALWAVE!

[AzDar]

20. Exactly right.

:hi:
Let's it put it SO FAR out of their reach that there can BE no theft.
Not. This. Time.

[Mira]

22. This is great ! I may well put this on my truck's tailgate as large as possible

I am finding almost no one any more who doubts the elections were stolen in 2000 and 2004, compared to the bland stares indicating I might be nuts at the time it happened.

I have long been running a continually updated tally of the soldiers we have lost on my truck's tailgate , but it gets harder and sadder all the time to keep it updated.

This is the first message I might use to exchange the update with.
I've had a V mask at my front door, in a neighborhood of progressives with many many Obama signs, and no McCain anythings, and this in the "red" state of NC. Yet, not a soul has recognized the V mask for what it is.

But with it doubling as the "V"ote symbol it will work, and thrill the few who get it.

So you have provided me with the first real alternative for my tailgate to go into November.
Thanks.

[helderheid]

27. WOW, Mira! Thank YOU!

:patriot: :hug:

[libforlife]

23. repukes will try to steal it, we cant let them

australia wants obama

[TexasObserver]

24. I agree. I assume the GOP will steal 5-6% in several key states.

I firmly believe they tried to steal Montana and Virginia senate elections in 2006, and almost succeeded. They didn't steal enough, however, to get it done.

They will use all manner of evil to suppress the vote, keep from counting votes, or steal votes. Only by overwhelming them with a tidal wave of voters can we assure that their schemes will fail.

[Stevepol]

25. Study after study has shown that the machines can easily be manipulated,

hacked, patched, and especially adjusted or tweaked either at the factory or later on by insiders WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF DETECTION.

To think that because there's no evidence of manipulation, it did not happen, is the height of foolishness.

Of course it has happened and many times. The Sarasot case of undervotes, the Clint Curtis case, the discrepancies between the exit polls and the reported results, etc. etc. etc. etc. are the only evidence it's possible to have. Circumstantial evidence is all that it's possible to have.

But common sense tells you that if you have companies that are consistently and provably criminal in their so-called business practices, you can be assured that if they can steal elections they will and have certainly already done so.

[helderheid]

26. I have worked hard to get rid of these machines where I live for exactly those reasons.

I am sure votes in 2006 were stolen as well, but people came out in such overwhelming numbers, they couldn't steal 2006 outright. We'll lose votes in 2008 as well, especially in areas with machines calculating the totals, however we still need to come out in mass numbers so they cannot steal it completely.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2TJg6LawzMo&watch_response">3% OR 50%, What'll Throw an election?

[followthemoney]

28. Obama needs a BIG margin of victory.

When the votes are stolen the GOP will argue that whites say they will support a black but will not vote for one when alone in a voting booth.

This is the GOP's best alibi to explain a lost Obama election in the face of a large polling majority in Obama's favor prior to the election. Scratch the surface of Liberal Democrats and you may find a lot of West Virginia coal miner showing through.

America stinks when its election system stinks.

And the election system stinks bad.