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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:01 AM
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LMAO --Did '24' open American minds to a black President?
Article about the role of "Hollywood"'s presentation of African-American POTUS's and how it might have benefitted Obama

Oh the irony is delicious :bounce:

Hollywood shows way for first black US president

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gn9WaALxlM7hQFkGzWBQtFTGdBbw

LOS ANGELES (AFP) — A slew of African-American presidents portrayed in film and television has helped US voters get used to the idea of electing the country's first black commander-in-chief, analysts say.

Whether it's a seven-year-old Sammy Davis Jr in the 1933 comedy "Rufus Jones for President" or Morgan Freeman in 1998's "Deep Impact," Hollywood has been installing blacks in the Oval Office before anyone had heard of Barack Obama.

But academics believe the increasingly frequent portrayal of black presidents in blockbuster films or hit television shows has helped to make the electorate more receptive towards Obama than they otherwise might have been.

John W. Matviko, author of "The American President in Popular Culture," believes that Obama's overwhelming popularity amongst young voters may be partially explained by the Hollywood factor.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:04 AM
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1. Don't forget Chappelle's Black Bush!
lol...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:35 AM
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6. "Oh, wait a minute, you don't have an army! I guess that means you need to STFU!"
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:37 AM
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12. LOL...that's the best skit ever.

Probably my favorite of Chappelle's.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 03:00 PM
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20. It's up in my top 3, behind Wu Tang Financial and Clayton Bigsby
God I miss that show.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 10:05 AM
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7. "Oil!?!? Who said said anything about 'oil' ?... B*tch, you cooking?" - Black Bush
:evilgrin:
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 02:02 PM
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19. Tryin to get that OIL-cough-ollllll!
Edited on Sun Jun-29-08 02:07 PM by skooooo
:rofl:
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 11:44 AM
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13. M-A-R-S...Mars bitches!
Red rocks! :rofl:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:04 AM
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2. I saw similar a few months ago
Not sure where it was - but, it was the same thing, about "24" paving the way for Obama.

Of course, when that show with Geena Davis was on a few years ago about her being a female president, everybody said it was paving the way for Hillary.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:06 AM
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3. I live in a state whose governor was elected because of the Hollywood connection
and as I recall the exit polling showed that young males were overwhelmingly in favor of Ahnuld.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 10:09 AM
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9. Combined with the Democrats offering no viable alternative to the recall
Arnold getting elected was some crafty work by the GOP.

The Democratic party stuck by Gov. Gray Davis (admirable) but had no serious back up plan should he lose the recall vote (not so smart).

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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 10:41 AM
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10. I think the GOPers wanted McClintock to win.
I don't remember the party sticking by Davis (I remember feeling like they were hanging him out to dry, actually) but I agree that there was no standout Democratic candidate.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 05:10 PM
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24. As I recall Lt. Gov Bustamante was the alternative should the recall succeed
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:17 AM
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4. I hate to bust anyone's bubble, but that didn't turn out well.
I also don't think that prez held a candle to our future one personality-wise, and I did watch that program until it got too boring.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 01:32 PM
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16. I loved me some David Palmer!
That sexy voice and all. But youre right. It didnt turn out well. I'd rather not make that Obama comparison.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 08:09 PM
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26. Presidents have a very short shelf life on 24.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 09:21 AM
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5. I am so sick of the media inserting race into everything
Like when I watch the news, if they dont say black or hispanic then they must mean white! puke, i have had enough!
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 10:09 AM
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8. If it weren't for hollywood, the idea of a black prez would never have occured
to anyone, I'm sure.

We're all to stupid to think for ourselves, we need to see it somewhere else first.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 10:51 AM
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11. There was a news article I posted months ago here
where the actor who played the president in 24 took credit for Obama. :rofl:

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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 12:06 PM
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14. I think TV, movies, etc actually do have a bit of influence.
For example, I think Will and Grace did a lot to get people more comfortable with homosexuality. I think every show that takes a member of a discriminated group and portrays them in ways that go beyond the stereotypes helps people to open their minds just a bit.

How many people who never had a black friend do you think watched Cosby? Do you think a positive portrayal of a black family on TV could have influenced some people just a bit?

I don't think it's such a laughable idea, though I am sure they would like to take much more credit for it than they should.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 12:52 PM
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15. Well, to provide more grist for articles like this...
...next season's "24" will feature a woman president.

And "24" actually had two black presidents (who were brothers, BTW).
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 01:33 PM
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17. And both were killed. nt
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 01:38 PM
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18. And here I thought it was Deep Impact with Pres. Morgan Freeman.
Who, I might add, was a kick ass president.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 03:11 PM
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21. yeah, well 24 also showed a nuclear bomb in an American city
So let's hope the series is not predictive or groundbreaking.

And remember what happens to that POTUS. That's what I told the teenager the other day when he was watching the very first six episodes. He said "24 is like predicting the present! A black senator is about to be president." I asked him if he knows what happens to that president. Nope.

We all should work to keep the crazies balanced.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 03:46 PM
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22. race race race. gender gender gender.
Past year and a half, that is all that has been talked about for this 2008 campaign.

The media needs to STFU about it.

As much as I love Richardson and want him to be VP, one thing I fear is that the media will talk about it as a "non-white" ticket.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 04:20 PM
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23. John Stewart quote: Shows set in the future always have a black or female president
that's how we know it's the future.

(paraphrase, of course).

Welcome to the future, baby!
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 06:02 PM
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25. Hey, I can believe it.
makes total sense to me.

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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 08:11 PM
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27. President Palmer
Was the best thing about "24" in those first two seasons. Him and his psycho-bitch wife, Sherry.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-29-08 08:29 PM
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28. Yes. I don't know about the others - have never watched any -
but "David Palmer" was a wonderful character on "24." A Democrat and a great man and a President.

If Obama will be half as successful and beloved as "Palmer" was, he will end up as one of the greatest presidents this nation had.


Haysbert Says 24 Role Paved the Way for Presidential Hopeful Barack Obama

21/02/08

Dennis Haysbert of 24 is convinced that his character on the highly-watched suspense-action series has helped propel African-American presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign. Haysbert plays President David Palmer on the hit series, and he believes that this role has opened the minds of his fellow American citizens on how the country would be if a black man sat in the presidential seat. In fact, he thinks that the audiences liked what they saw.

"As far as the public is concerned, it did open up their minds and their hearts a little bit to the notion that if the right man came along...that a black man could be president of the United States ," Haysbert said in a conversation with TV Guide, which was on its January 21 issue. "People on the street would ask me to run for office... when I went to promote <24>."

Moreover, Haysbert's character and Obama have a few similarities, such as their run as senators, and their campaign in their mid-40s.

"I think we both have a similar approach to who and what we believe the president is," Haysbert said in a conversation with the Los Angeles Times. "Barack doesn't get angry. He's pretty level. That's how I portrayed President Palmer: as a man with control over his emotions and great intelligence."

Haysbert is a strong supporter of Obama, and even once chartered a helicopter to attend a fundraiser for Obama's campaign at Oprah Winfrey's house near Santa Barbara , California right after a shoot for CBS' The Unit. He said that it wasn't any cheap endeavor, as he really spent time, effort and money for that particular event.

Haysbert's 24 character isn't the first black president to appear on television, though, as Oscar winner and Obama supporter Morgan Freeman played black President Tom Beck in the film Deep Impact.

For more resources about 24 or for the full story of Haysbert Says 24 Role Paved the Way for Presidential Hopeful Barack Obama please review http://www.buddytv.com

Article Source: http://www.articlesbase.com/art-and-entertainment-articles/haysbert-says-24-role-paved-the-way-for-presidential-hopeful-barack-obama-338422.html




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