A reminder: We can KICK out Joe and STILL keep our majority? Why?

[Hawkeye-X]

Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell, just before the start of this session (which I think was in '06) signed an declaration that the majority of the Senate is Democratic, no matter if Joe is I - and caucuses for D's, he's still irrelevant. Better to strip Joe's chairmanship and order his eventual move to the Senate janitorial closet in Janurary of 2009, where he is officially deemed irrelevant and useless for the Democratic Party.

Hawkeye-X

[DJ13]

1. Never trust a Republican to keep his word

[PATRICK]

2. Naked Independent

This is ostensibly his last term. he expected to transition into a the new GOP organization. he expected to be treated with respect by Hillary. His voting record is too liberal for the GOP, his loyalty a joke among Dems. He will be out in the cold on foreign policy.

He will be the most pathetic of independents, the most voiceless and ignored and the least principled, the most abandoned. Trying to transition with the shards of the non-Bush GOP will make the GOP even more weighted down with pariahs and old losers. He likely won't be welcomed by Hagel or Gingrich or any other who themselves are impotent or tired of making the attempt.

Anyone shedding a tear?

[formercia]

3. Nice idea

The thought of him losing his seniority and being banished to the hinterlands is a good one. January will be here soon.

[barack the house]

4. I don't think they will do it, we'll have to wait till 09 on that some in the party still like him..

Lord knows why though. Considering the ill health of some senators I wouldn't gamble the majority either, they get more punked when Repubs own court. Democrats don't really run for office to take fights more to fix things, our biggest obstacle is thugs on the hill the harder we work for seats the better it gets.

[BzaDem]

5. That agreement is not binding.

If Joe decides to caucus with the Republicans, there will be a 50-50 vote to change leaderships. Cheney will break the tie, and there goes the Democratic senate.