Personally, I think the choice of John Kerry as the VP nod would be a little weird.

[Writer]

I just don't see what he'd add to the ticket. Is it because he's a veteran? I always have thought that he's a little wooden, like Treebeard the Ent from the Lord of the Rings.



BTW: I recall Kerry throwing out misinformation about choosing Dick Gephardt as his VP nod four years ago, so I'm skeptical about the rumors. Have you all noticed that McCain hasn't yet announced his running mate? I think the reason is that he's waiting for Obama to move before he moves. I think this is a bit of misinformation from the Obama camp.

[ProSense]

1. Disgusting! n/t

[JoFerret]

16. What is disgusting?

Kerry is a very good person. I wanted him to win in 2008 (didn't we all) - I even liked him early because of the way he handled himself in Iowa.
I do think picking him now would be a bit weird. Same with picking Edwards. (And I love Edwards and hope he has a significant role in the Obama administration.)

[ray of light]

2. Oh. yes. Kerry would be wierd. Obama should pick LIEBERMAN.

The media loves LIEberman and so do the Republicans!

[ProSense]

4. There are some so-called Democrats, like Lieberman once was, who

are worse than the fucking wingnuts.

[Crazy Dave]

8. Are those the "Reagan Democrats" n/t

[JoFerret]

17. Those are the only choices?

(Why are you bringing Lieberman into this?)

[Mass]

3. And this thread is useful because. Except if you take everything the media says as true,

but in this case, you have a bigger problem.

[Writer]

5. Actually I don't think what the media are saying is true at all.

And I do think Kerry is a little bit wooden.

[Mass]

7. Yes, you think they have a source and that the source lied to them.

As for Kerry, you're entitled to your opinion, as uninformed as it is. STill does not tell me why you had to make a thread on that rather than to answer to the existing thread?BTW, while MSNBC is full of crap, Kerry would be a great choice. Simply, it will not happen because he is running in MA.

[Writer]

10. If I'm not mistaken, you're trying to start a flame war!

Ahhhhhhh!

I kid. I respect your opinion, and I hope that you respect mine. And I do believe I am an informed person, thank you very much.

[ProSense]

11. Wait the

wingnut attempt at illustrating your point wasn't an attempt at just that?

[karynnj]

20. Or the op of this thread is - now what did you expect would happen

As Mass pointed out there are already sveral threads on this - even though the MSNBC story sounds like someone suggested to one of their "pundits" in a bar - and they said - lets' report it.

So, you repeat a negative characterization - that is really Gore's (you're mixing up your RW talking points). Gore is wooden, Kerry elitist and allof. (So elitist he used all his strings - hey, the guy dated Jackis Kennedy's beautiful step-sister, to get him out of Vietnam --- dind't he?)

[kentuck]

6. First of all, Kerry has a base of his own...

and he has military credentials. He is respected around the world. He would be a great choice.

[beachmom]

9. You are wrong on disinformation from the Obama camp. Kerry

is currently running for re-election in Mass. Frankly, he doesn't need these rumor headaches.

[JDPriestly]

12. I agree with you. Kerry's energy is not right somehow.

He always seems sad. He has good judgment and would appeal to white males and blue collar workers (maybe). Kerry also would be a good counter to McCain because Kerry and McCain worked together so much. Kerry knows McCain very well. But somehow Kerry always seems a little dreary. He has excellent character and is a wonderful person. He is extremely well versed on foreign policy, but he seems kind of sad and depressed when you see or hear him. That is what was missing in 2004. He just didn't quite excite voters to the extent needed to overcome the Republican fraud.

[KingFlorez]

13. He would be a terrible choice

Anyone who couldn't defeat the worst President ever isn't fit to be anywhere on the ticket.

[blm]

14. How many Dems were afraid to face Bush and Rove at their strongest point and with the last Dem

president siding publicly with Bush on his terrorism and Iraq war strategies in almost every interview from 2001-2005?


Funny how most every wellknown Dem face was supporting that worst president in history, including the last Dem president who used his June/July 2004 book tour to defend Bush from the very attacks on his judgment being made against Bush by the Dem nominee.

[Cha]

15. Bulloney..that's painting a broad brush when

terry mcauliffe was head of the DNC and didn't really have back up for our guy. This is a whole new kind of campaign and Kerry's one of Obama's best surrogates.

[Bluerthanblue]

27. first off, there is pretty good evidence to say he DID defeat bush-

second- can I ask what YOU did to help make sure that we won in 2004?-

You can't sit back and just dis the candidates, if you want to win- WORK to see it happens- and if it doesn't, beware of blaming the candidates-

Democracy- even a'republic' kind of democracy- is not a spectator sport.


And I'll spare you the curse words that your stupid comment deserves-

Everyones stupid sometimes.

peace~

[KingFlorez]

35. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it

I just think this election needs to be done from a fresh perspective and not include people who lost previously, the VP candidate needs to offer something positive. You are entitled to your opinion though, like I'm entitled to mine.

[Colobo]

18. I would like to see Kerry as part of Obama's cabinet

but not as VP.

[karynnj]

19. Wait a minute how can someone be wodden and stiff AND windsurf?

Have you ever seen Kerry in person speak to a group - he is charming, funny and impressive.

[JoFerret]

22. As I wrote earlier

I was taken by footage of kerry working the rooms in Iowa in 2004. The wooden crap is media nonsense. What's wrong with it anyway? Gore would have been a fabulous president. So would Kerry.

[karynnj]

37. I quite agree - I have no problem with Gore and hate the idea that

a President has to amuse the media cool kidz. In fact, I think the real reason that the media didn't find Gore an Kerry "fun" was that they are serious, sincere and highly principled.

[Bluerthanblue]

28. yes he is, he's also intelligent, which some people feel uncomfortable

with-

Which is too bad for all of us.


peace~

[PresidentObama]

21. This post should be erased by the moderators. RW bullshit.

[Writer]

23. First, I don't have a problem with John Kerry's politics, only his political skills.

Which I believe are wooden.

Secondly, I vote Democratic all the way. :)

[wisteria]

31. His political skills got him very close to being elected President of the United States.

If it wasn't for fraud, disenfranchisement and a couple of other questionable happenings, he would be president right now. It wasn't luck that got him that far- it was his political and people skills.

[karynnj]

39. Using "advanced search", you were for Gore, Edwards and Clark

Now, I really admire Gore and think he would have been a good President had he been inaugurated as well as elected (yeah - I stole that from a 2006 Kerry speech at Faneuil Hall on the energy/environment). But Gore was the one called "wooden" by the media. Kerry wasn't - and having seen him several times he isn't - he is extremely serious and sincere, but I kind of think those GOOD characteristics.

As to political skills - Kerry has them in abundance. He completely outclassed Clark and Edwards, both of home came nowhere near beating him in 2004.

[Monty__]

24. Like Murdoch?

The New York Post "broke" the story that Kerry chose Gephardt.

[Writer]

25. Oh yes - that is exactly what happened!

Note that a Republican-skewed publication printed that... and I think the Post got that from Drudge, right?

Then, of course, it turned out to be false.

[Marie26]

26. They're too much alike IMO

I've always kind of seen Obama as a younger, cooler version of Kerry. They both have a cool, intellectual style of speaking & both have been tagged w/the "elitist" label. Kerry wouldn't add anything to the ticket & might make Obama's own issues w/working class voters even worse. Edwards would be a much better choice - he'd bring the fiery, impassioned rhetoric, & a populist message.

[wisteria]

32. Unfortunately, Edwards doesn't seem to be able to be a VP attack dog.

He was suppose to be all those things for Kerry and he wasn't. I don't think his heart is in being a VP candidate.

[Marie26]

33. Maybe

But is Kerry really an attack dog? I like him, but it's just that he doesn't add that much.

[karynnj]

38. Superb National security, veterans issues, Iraq, foreign policy, environmental credentials

Not to mention even on healthcare - he was the author with Kennedy of the precursor bill to S-Chip and on the home mortgage issue - it is Kerry's bill for an Affordable Housing Fund which had 23 sponsors that was accepted into the banking bill (Reed headed the mark up and writing of that piece) that will hopefully pass Congress. It passed the House already with Barney Frank leading the effort. Obama also incorporated Kerry's idea of re-insurance for catastrophic costs into his health plan - that was a major contribution.

You seem to have concentrated JUST on personality or rather personality filtered through the media. Kerry would bring a wealth of experience to a ticket that is not heavy on it. That he is compatible on issues, style and personality is another plus.

That said - he might be more useful as the exceptional Senator (no matter what the media says, he not HRC is far more likely to be the new Kennedy - if anyone could ever be that) that he is or as SoS.

[lonestarnot]

29. I actually not only think it's wierd, but I think it's also funny. LOL

snort :rofl:

[wisteria]

30. Obviously, you have very little information on Senator Kerry. If you did, you wouldn't come to the

conclusions you do. Do some research and get the facts on the Senator Kerry. He is anything but dull. I think just his devoted following in the Kerry forum here- four years after the last election- represents just a small fraction of the interest and charisma this man has. What Senator Kerry has to say is still important to the press and to many people who respect his judgment.

[Awsi Dooger]

34. Weird would be my summation also

I don't think it would go over well, as Obama's first major decision. He's campaigned on change, a break from the past, and then he identifies the most recent nominee, a guy remembered for losing to George Bush? Gad.

Kerry would be on the defensive, not only from his losing campaign but also that misinterpreted remark on the eve of the 2006 midterm, stuck in Iraq. I think we can do better.

It makes perfect sense from Kerry's standpoint. There's no other way he can become president than a successful tour as VP. In 2016 I think he would be roughly McCain's current age.

[Guava Jelly]

36. I wouldn't pick Kerry either (and I like him)

We don't need any of the ex-candidates on the ticket.
No Gore (Who I greatly admire),Not Edwards (Who was my original choice),Nor any of the ex primary Competition.
We need a newer face. I like a certain Kansas Gov. :)
:hi: Writer (from Prague)