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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:05 PM
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You cannot be seriously considering John Kerry for VP.
Is this the flavor of the day?

Seriously?

Look, I like John Kerry, and I respect him and appreciate all he's done and continues to do in the Senate. But the fact is that in a national campaign, he brings little. I'd like someone to tell me WHY John Kerry would help out an Obama ticket. Who does he bring to the fold that wouldn't already vote Democratic?

Let's look:

-From Massachusetts: not a swing state

-Let his war record be smeared in 2004: His one possible plus was defined for him and ruined.

-Not a very good orator: He's ok, but again, nothing that would make him an outstanding pick.

-Already smeared: people already view him as the "ivory-tower elitist out-of-touch New England liberal". The republican's work is already done for them. They can devote all the more resources to smearing Obama himself.


Frankly, I think any mention of Kerry as a VP is a joke. Maybe if he wasn't a previous nominee. Maybe if he didn't let himself get smeared and mocked and defined like he did. But at this point in time, he offers nothing to the ticket.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:07 PM
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1. It sure got a lot of panties in a bunch over here, the media plays us like fiddles
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 11:08 PM by goldcanyonaz
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:09 PM
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2. It's DU. There is probably a Daffy Duck for Veep contingent also.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:50 PM
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12. lol no but there would be a sizeable bugs bunny contigent lol
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:11 PM
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3. "He doesn't connect with the common man!"...
is what I heard over the weekend. I spent it with a friend from a staunch Republican family who actually said she's voting for Obama. But Kerry? No way.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:15 PM
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4. "Not a very good orator" Oh what complete
BS

People need to stop tripping over their own desires for who the VP should be.

It's Obama's decision.

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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 12:05 AM
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14. Like I said he's a decent public speaker.
But nothing so amazing that it would override any of the other minuses about him as VP.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:17 PM
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5. I am glad Obama himself appreciates the hardwork that
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 11:18 PM by politicasista
one of his best of not better surrogates puts in to helping him get elected. I am glad Obama appreciates a good Dem defending him especially when his predecessor didn't have that in 04. I am glad he is seeking out Gore and other Dems for help. I am glad he is learning the lessons of the last two elections. I am glad he has people helping him with a winning strategy. I am glad he shows respect for Kerry and remembers who gave him is time to shine (and O's impressive speech).

I am glad Obama appreciates all of the above. It's too bad that some (not all) of his supporters appreciate or show respect for his surrogate and fellow Dem.

Congratualations for buying into a MSM rumor as a fact. Just like with the Obama bias from the media, DU again jumps the gun with knee-jerk respsones with all the Anti-Kerry RW talking points/smears, and buys into a rumor that was designed to distract us from going after McCain and talking about the REAL issues.

Taking potshots at a good Dem helps Obama's cause. Yeah really.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:24 PM
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10. the smears work on more than just repukes n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:18 PM
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6. Damn straight I'd consider him, damn straight I'd take him no questions
asked, too.

From long, long ago, before the days of FOX News, there was veteran John Kerry testifying to Congress in the shadow of Nixon's dark power.

Some of us like this guy from a many moons ago and we feel like we know his bones and blood.

And for some years now, we've liked what we've seen.

His chief role as a vice president would be to serve as president if need be.

Kerry meets all criteria, IMO.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:18 PM
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7. It's really not up to us..
now is it?
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:20 PM
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8. It's not
Edited on Mon Jul-07-08 11:21 PM by politicasista
It's Obama's decision. After all this, I don't care who he picks. Sheesh!
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 01:15 AM
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15. NONE of it is anymore, if it ever was.
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:22 PM
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9. Here's the test
Run tapes of Obama and Kerry adressing a crowd. Their speech patterns are too similar. Kerry's proved to be a negative with the public and that would bring Obama down.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-07-08 11:46 PM
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11. my one big beef with him was his support for a constitutional amendment in Mass
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 07:44 AM
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19. interesting
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 12:01 AM
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13. Kerry has served Obama very well thus far. And I think that he
has spoken with tact, fire and always on message--this is needed in a VP. This would definitely sew up all of the Northeast, upper midwest and possibly Floria. Yeah maybe.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 01:30 AM
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16. You cannot seriously be questioning everyone who wants Kerry as VP.
Sounds awfully bullying to me.
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 01:58 AM
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17. hed be a horrible choice. horrible!
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 02:15 AM
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18. you left out a biggie
He's already run for President at the head of the ticket (and been 'defeated' by the WORST PRESIDENT EVER!!). I think many Americans would find it strange to see a person go from Presidential Candidate to Veep candidate. It has never been done before, to my knowledge. The pressed claimed that Reagan was trying to get Ford on the ticket, but I don't know how true that ever was.

Although, it makes sense that primary voters in 2004 thought he was the best candidate for President, then why wouldn't the same people think he would make an excellent Veep? I just think there is sort of a sense that he has had his turn and been rejected by the voters.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:07 AM
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20. Why are you people buying in the media bullshit?!?!?
I live in D.C. and this is NOT a rumor. It's some shit that the Repukes have put out there to cause panic within the Democratic party. We won't know who the VP will be UNTIL Barack Obama announces it with his own mouth!!

Please stop being so gullible! x(
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ravishane Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:24 AM
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21. hysteria for no reason
There is no way Kerry is on the v.p. list. How did this nonsense start? I keep hearing raving idiots on television talk about Al Gore and whatnot. Gore, Kerry . . . no thanks.

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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 08:36 AM
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22. Didn't Kerry want McCain as *his* VP?
Wouldn't that make things a little awkward?
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