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Tue Jul-08-08 01:09 PM
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Kerry camp: Senator in no way interested in VP - Now can we stop Kerry thrashing. |
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http://www.politickerma.com/jeremyjacobs/281/kerry-camp-senator-no-way-interested-vpI know this is a well liked sport with some of you, but using a media rumor to thrash somebody is both useless and hurtful, whether it is him, Obama, or Clinton.
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Tue Jul-08-08 01:10 PM
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1. So ixnay on Webb and Kerry so far... and probably Clark. nt |
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Tue Jul-08-08 01:28 PM
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8. Robert Byrd is out too. |
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:33 PM
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Tue Jul-08-08 06:53 PM
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Tue Jul-08-08 01:12 PM
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2. Most here know it was bullshit, but fucking around is fun |
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Tue Jul-08-08 01:13 PM
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3. Sure. Repeating RW meme is so great |
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Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 01:14 PM by Mass
(edited: I do not want to repeat a RW meme, even if you think it is fun).
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Tue Jul-08-08 01:14 PM
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4. Worked for Hillary around here, are you surprised? |
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Tue Jul-08-08 01:15 PM
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No, but I was against it then and now. And I did not support Hillary. |
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Tue Jul-08-08 01:15 PM
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5. You need to be realistic--if somebody is presented as a VP possibility, |
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then those who do not want that person are entitled to express their objections not matter who that person may be.
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Tue Jul-08-08 01:15 PM
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6. NO. We NEED FIVE MORE THREADS in support of Kerry! //eom |
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Tue Jul-08-08 01:20 PM
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7. I think 12 is more in order |
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Tue Jul-08-08 01:46 PM
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:21 PM
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14. That doesn't even make sense. I've never trashed Kerry. |
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Perhaps I just touched a nerve? :shrug:
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:25 PM
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15. aww, but you had to bring up Hillary, how much have you donated to Obama/ |
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probably nothing because you are poor, right? WHAH!!!
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:27 PM
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17. Goldie not sure what one has to do with the other |
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I understand your frustration, but that post made no sense.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:31 PM
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23. uh huh, but it made perfect sense to who I was posting to |
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:28 PM
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probably nothing because you are poor, right?
Hey, that's correct. Does my poverty bother you?
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:30 PM
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22. no, but your hillary bashing does, I will donate for you if you like, I used to be poor too |
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:40 PM
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31. One bad comment about Hillary supporters in months and you lose it. |
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:eyes:
If you're not poor anymore send it to a food pantry. They need it more than Obama does.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:46 PM
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38. Forkboy is a good guy. You are a good gal. |
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I think this whole thing is a big misunderstanding.
It's snowballed into personal insults.
I wish they would delete the entire sub-thread.
We are all on the same side.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:29 PM
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19. Newsflash: primary season is over |
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:30 PM
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21. Yes which is why I am stunned that this slap towards former Hillary supporters |
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Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 02:32 PM by Marrah_G
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:36 PM
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26. Uh huh, forkboy starts a shit storm and you do not understand |
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:37 PM
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27. Okay maybe I need more coffee |
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Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 02:37 PM by Marrah_G
You totally lost me on that one.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:46 PM
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37. Maybe the issue at hand is that the 2004 primary is over, and |
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people still can't let go.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:26 PM
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16. Not for nothing but......... |
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I've seen former Hillary supporters and Obama supporters both trashing him.... not just now, but since 2004.
I can make you a list if you like, once I get home.
I think it was the swipe at one group of supporters (of which I am a part of) that is frustrating to both Goldie and myself.
Do I personally think people trashing Kerry are tools.... absolutely.
I disagree that they are all Hillary supporters, that Hillary supporters are all tools, and that Hillary supporters are all rejects.
These are hurtful things to say.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:29 PM
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20. I have to agree with you about Obama supporters trashing him |
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I think it's time to leave Kerry alone. He is running for Senate. He didn't run in the 08 primary. Obama, Hillary, Edwards, Biden, Dodd, Kuchinch, Richardson did. Kerry has been a strong surrogate for Obama, and it is becoming too bad that even some of Obama's supporters feel the need to trash his surrogate just to promote him.
That doesn't help Obama's cause. That doesn't help Democrats cause either.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:37 PM
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28. I never said all Hillary supporters are tools or rejects |
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Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 02:42 PM by Forkboy
You of all people should know I have no problems with the majority of them
I disagree that they are all Hillary supporters
Ok, not all. Most. The Kerry/Hillary split has been very obvious for quite some time, both here on DU and offline. More often than not the Kerry criticisms come from the Hillary camp. I think many do so out of a perceived sense of loyalty to her more than any genuine issue with Kerry. Hence, I feel those people are tools. Are there other people who trash Kerry? Sure, but not with even close to the frequency that one camp does so.
I think it was the swipe at one group of supporters (of which I am a part of) that is frustrating to both Goldie and myself.
I'm sorry it bothered you as you're not part of the group I was talking about. As I said, I didn't mean all Hillary supporters are tools and rejects. As for Goldie....his comments about donating and being poor say more than I ever could about him.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:41 PM
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32. I am a she, not a he, k |
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:51 PM
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40. I still love you forkboy, why? cuz you are fork boy! |
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:42 PM
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33. That's why I reacted as I did. |
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Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 02:42 PM by Marrah_G
You didn't mean it that way, but it really came across like a mean and un-necessary swipe at Hillary supporters. Since it was coming from you... my response was....err wtf? who stole my Forkboy?
I think this entire subthread is one big misunderstanding that has snowballed into a flamefest.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:48 PM
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39. Endless heat stole your Forkboy. |
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All that's left is a puddle with eyes. :)
Sorry it seemed like a swipe at you.
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poor thing.
I'll be melting into a puddle along with you in about 10 minutes when I leave the office. No ac at home. Lots of cold showers and a pretty decent fan make it barely tolerable.
I'm glad it wasn't a swipe :) No apology needed, it was just a heat and coffee deprivation induced mis-communication.
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Tue Jul-08-08 03:38 PM
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43. I agree with you - they are people angry for some reason |
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and many were NEVER HRC supporters - the worst I've seen have been self identified progressives - who refuse to see Kerry's statements or voting record - or see that he stood against the RW since the 1970s, years when many of their favorites voted Republican or thought the Contras deserved support.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:39 PM
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30. So are you saying you're a McCain supporter? |
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:45 PM
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36. You and Forkboy miss the good old days huh? |
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Edited on Tue Jul-08-08 02:45 PM by Bleachers7
:rofl:
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:12 PM
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12. Let's just assume that Kerry and Webb speak for all senators |
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They don't, of course. But if ALL senators were removed from consideration for VP, this would be a good sign of a strong ticket coming.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:38 PM
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29. Honestly! I find it hard to believe that anyone would think that John |
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Kerry would be interested in running for VP.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:43 PM
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34. Good. Here is how this is going to work: |
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People will find out who Obama selects as his VP in a few weeks. Obama/VP will go on to win the election and select his cabinet. The bitter people who disparage Kerry based on rumors will still be bitter. That's their problem.
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Tue Jul-08-08 02:55 PM
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42. Thanks for the statement, Mass. You know I do think there were |
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good reasons why he would have been a great VP; he still may eventually go in the cabinet; or he will remain Senator, and a powerful one at that. What I don't like is the thrashing. It's ridiculous.
Never mind 2008 sour grapes, maybe it is STILL about 2004 primaries sour grapes.
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Tue Jul-08-08 03:40 PM
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44. Why doesn't everybody just wait and see who Obama selects instead of the media rumor mill |
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46. Sigh. Afternoon kick, until the OTHER thread doesn't get kicked again. nt |
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