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andyrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:21 PM
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Poll question: Who Will Be Veep?
This is how CNN's political market has it.

Other 47%
Bayh 14%
Biden 11%
Clinton 10%
Sebelius 9%
Richardson 5%
Webb 2%
Hagel 1%
Dodd 0%
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:23 PM
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1. If it's Evan Bayht I will not be happy
His anti-video game sh*t when there are so many real problems out there screams DLC Republican light...
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:25 PM
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2. Richardson, Gephardt or Biden
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:33 PM
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6. No, no, and HELL NO (Gephardt)
Biden voted for the IWR, and Gephardt stabbed the Democrats in the back by striking a deal with the Bush Administration to stifle any debate on the IWR. There is no way in hell he would be selected as VP. I doubt it will be Richardson either.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:29 PM
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3. On this list, I'm probably going to go with Other.
No way he picks someone as bland and useless as Bayh. I don't see it being Richardson. Webb has said he doesn't want it, which I know is normal, but I think he means it. Besides, multiple senators might be unbalanced. It won't be Hillary. I think the only person on this list who has a real shot is Sebelius.
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andyrowe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:32 PM
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5. I've bought 142 shares of other.
I'm going long too. At a little over $51 dollars a share, I'll almost double my pretend CNN money.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:31 PM
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4. I'm feeling Nunn for some reason
It's not who I'd pick though.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:41 PM
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7. Webb's taken himself out of the race
maybe Kaine?


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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:26 AM
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17. I hope so! I think he makes the most sense. nt
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:43 PM
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8. #1 Brian Schweitzer
I wouldn't be opposed to Hagel or Bloomberg I guess. (I'm thinking "win" here, though, not my personal choice.) I like Dodd, Richardson, and Webb personally. Dodd best on economy. Richardson good for energy. Webb good for military/foreign policy reasons. I wish there was somebody who had an all around good package. Around here, if Hillary were the VP nominee we would win Indiana by a l.a.n.d.s.l.i.d.e. for the first time since the 1960s. Too many Dems around here are pro-Hillary people. Many Republicans around here are pro-Obama people.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-08-08 11:57 PM
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9. Oh, expect some decrepit white guy warmonger.
Soccer moms and TV dads need comforting, you know.

They need a mass murderer to look up to.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:16 PM
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30. but he's running on the Repug ticket
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:53 AM
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10. Me! Me! I'll do it.
As long as I don't have to campaign and I can telecommute from home in my jammies and slippers after I'm elected.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:56 AM
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11. Clinton, for the best chance of uniting the party and winning in November.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:57 AM
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12. Terry McAuliffe said it today: Biden.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 12:59 AM
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13. Yeah, that's why it's all over the newscycle and the nets.
Cuz of you and McAuliffe.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:26 AM
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16. Just spreadin' the good word.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:29 AM
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18. Seriously? But McAullife also said that Obama had a "latino problem."
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:32 AM
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20. Well, he's a "grain of salt" kind of guy. But I happen to agree with him here.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:07 AM
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14. I voted in your poll for Gov. Sebelius, although I can make a
strong case for the other choices, plus several who aren't on the list.

I think an Obama veep shortlist at this point could be 20-plus names, easy.

Don't we lose a Senate seat if Dodd is selected? Does the GOP Gov of CT appoint a replacement, or is there a special election, or what? Anyway, that red Congressional delegation is down to Shays and Lieberman, isn't it?, and I'm guessing if Rell gets to appoint a replacement, Shays could get the nod. Yuck. Also there's a possibility that Dodd could go for Majority Leader.

We got good Dems in all districts of the country, suited up and ready to play. We got Schweitzer, Ritter, Richardson, and Napolitano out West.

We got Edwards, Graham, and Clark down South.

We got a good handful in the Great Lakes and Plains states, too.

And New England and the Atlantic Seaboard states as well.

Not to mention 2 or 3 generals who would be a boost.

All McCain's got is Romney, who I can't tell is more robotic tan he is psychotic or more psychotic than he is robotic, but it's a nifty little perjorative rhyme against Willard; and

Carly Fiorina, the failed HP CEO. I'm wondering if Sweet Cindy would tolerate Carly becoming the limelight gal in the McCain campaign. I bet not.

Obama is as likely to surprise us, IMO, as he is likely to replicate custom.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:24 AM
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15. On Evan Bayh. His public personality is flat-spirited.
He's quite bright, and dutiful, but sometimes comes across as an above-average college student organizing a local chapter of this or that national group. I've never felt that he's self-actualized as a public servant in the way (or to the degree) that say, Dick Durbin has, in neighboring Illinois.

He seems alert and thorough, but when he speaks, especially in a sustained, concentrated address before a large audience, he sounds "practiced." The words sound teleprompted AS they were being originally written. I've heard him give a live speech, but it wasn't very lively. It was like listening to a kid at a music lesson playing scales.

I am not impressed much that he campaigns for some Democrats running in some of the districts of Indiana, but not for all Democrats in other districts. He seems to stay away from the most loathsome Republican incumbents, in essence letting them proceed unfettered rather than risking his profile by backing a Democratic challenger who is down in the polls. For example, Congressman Steve Buyer is relatively entrenched in his district, but has had in recent years a sturdy challenger in David Sanders, a Purdue professor of I think biochemistry, and Bayh has barely lifted a finger to support Sanders against one of the most egregious Republicans in the U.S. Congress. Bayh showed up for three or four Democrats in districts where it looked as if they might carry the day. At least three of them did win, but Sanders was crushed.

There are a lot of Republicans in Indiana. The rural counties tend to run a pretty deep red. There are remnants here and there of the Farm Socialist groups that organized before, during, and after the noble flare of Wisconsin's Robert LaFollette in times past, of which my grandmother was a part, but for the most part, the rural demographic in Indiana would be considered a sort of Nixon/Reagan demographic, for reasons progressives in Bloomington cannot begin to fathom. Democrat Vance Hartke won a Senate race in Indiana long ago, over a pig of a guy named Roudebush, but the race was perilously close. Democratic Sec. of State Joe Hogsett lost despite a valiant effort against Dan Coats, who was worse than Dan Quayle (who defeated Evan Bayh's father, Birch) because Coats, unlike Quayle, has a brain. It's a Rumsfeld-type brain, wholly given over to dark commitments, but that's what makes him more dangerous than Dan Quayle, who is irretrievably stupid.

In 2006 Richard Lugar ran unopposed in defense of his Senate seat.

I just don't think Evan Bayh can quite carry the state. Obama/Bayh would likely have a better chance than SomeoneElse/Bayh, but it would still take a fierce shove.




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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:31 AM
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19. Wouldn't it be a very bad idea to take a Dem Senator from a red state?
Bayh's seat is pretty safe... for Bayh. If he left to become VP, could another Dem win that seat?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:36 AM
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21. I'm not arguing in favor of Obama's choosing Evan Bayh.
Rather, I hope he picks someone else.

I'd be personally happier if Bayh were passed up in favor of any number of other Democrats, including but not limited to Schweitzer, Kaine, Sebelius, Richardson, Harkin, Edwards, Boxer, and Sherrod Brown.


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PM7nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 01:38 AM
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22. I know. I'm just saying that picking Bayh make no sense.
Maybe he could flip Indiana... maybe. But I think it is took risky to take him out of the senate.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 02:18 AM
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23. Wes Clark is still in it.
This little nothing about speaking the truth to McCain's record and fitness for the office is so meaningless, yet you left him out?

Are you really that gullible?

Did he die? Did I miss something?
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:29 AM
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27. It Will Be Clark
That is all.
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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:52 AM
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29. Clark was never really in it.
The issues surrounding his departure from EUCOM disquailifed him during the vetting process. Whether it is fair or not, it was red meat for republicans and it, along with Hugh Shelton's quote about him, would be used against the campaign.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 02:41 AM
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24. Probably Biden or Kaine.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:40 AM
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25. Other: Feingold.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 03:44 AM
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26. It should be Clark. But will it be?
I don't know, probably not. He would have been perfect in '04 and he's perfect now but we as a party have a problem with picking the right people.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 06:30 AM
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28. Touché MrSlayer
I always did like you:)
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