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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 07:55 AM
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Fron now until November that's all we're going to be hearing about. That's all those fucking Republicans and their mainstream corporate media whores have got.

Barack, I already saw this morning on the news ticker on the Morning Blow Show how you're saying Iran is such a serious threat to us. That's okay, but please, Barack Obama, do NOT fall in line with those Republican cocksuckers and make this a battle of who can protect us best from that evil country Iran. If you do that, you will surely be playing right into their hands. Instead, keep up your message of making the world a more peaceful place through DIPLOMACY. Your message of diplomacy is one of the main reasons why so many Americans fell in love with you a long time ago, so DO NOT CHANGE THAT MESSAGE. Americans, as fucking thick as half of us are, are finally fed up to their ears of needless wars and the horrific results it's having on everyone. You just have to stick to your message and not back down from saying you'll talk with ANYONE in this world, even the Iranians. If the Repukes want to beat their drums of war, let them. Just remember what got you here, Barack, stick to that message, and you'll be fine.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:05 AM
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1. Your concern is noted.
I just don't remember anything you did to get Obama here, so offering advice is kinda funny. But hey!
Your concern is noted. :smoke:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:09 AM
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3. You don't remember because you'd rather thrive on the negative
Over the years I've done many many threads which are supportive of our Party and have tried to come up with ideas on how to win the game for our Party, but YOU don't remember them because you've always drowned me out with all your negative posts.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:11 AM
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6. Bwhahahaha! I apologize for drowning you out,
:rofl:. You do tend to slither, and I don't think anyone here has the capability of drowning you out. Can snakes drown? See, my thanks for your concern got you concerned all over again. Your support is now noted.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:31 AM
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14. Obama's call was for vigourous diplomacy that has been lacking with the Bush Administration
I believe that those were his exact words...nothing about war or bombing. And he is 100% correct. Vigorous diplomacy is needed. You can't ignore what happened, however, the Bush admins failure to talk direct to Iran and all the bluster from the US and Isreal about attacking Iran, coupled with the Kyl/Lieberman vote (HRC supported) that Iran was clearly aware of have brought us to this point.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:11 AM
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25. Sadly, answering no questions helped get him here too...but that was the primary this is the GE...
And the floors are harder in the real world. Purity Troll? The ones that think they and only they got Obama where he is? Do you think he believes that? Really? Evolution must then evolve some form of prehensile elbow, or other, for all that patting on one's own back taking place. When it's more the case too many such had no, have no idea; or will never understand the extent to which HRC for that matter helped him get where he is. Or for that matter the *pro-cess* itself; Super-D's that sat on the fence forever, too long, till they felt safe enough to come on down (that's how close that stupid thing was). Or for that matter ignorance itself in the forms of race baiting, sexism, and the questioning of people's IQ's that didn't much care for voting for a guy in Ray-Ban's alone...Dems?

Indeed if nothing else a valid question that; that many previously question-less Obama cheerleaders should be asking themselves instead.

Many are done with uplifting, less definable, pretty to the ear 'God Words' with "Yea, though I walk through the valley of death" on the horizon.

Yeah, Barack is here. And it nearly matters not who brought him. It's time to get real.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:08 AM
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2. Gee...how could Iran and AQ Khan be used as a threat to this country today?
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 08:12 AM by blm
How COULD BushInc possibly be getting away with any of their lies about Iran and their involvements there over the decades that have led to everything happening today?

Thanks for trying to keep the Dem party ALERT on the issue of Iran. Many turned a blind eye to crucial Iran matters for over a decade now. Look where that got us.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:11 AM
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5. Just as I thought. Instead of trying to win this election, you'd rather re-live the past
as long as it means you can bash Bill Clinton concerning your 24/7 campaign about him letting BushInc get away with any of their lies, which is why you just posted what you did.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:14 AM
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7. Pardon? I didn't see big dawg mentioned once in that post. Where's
your head at?

If I didn't know better, I'd think you were picking a fight, mtnsnake. :shrug:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:19 AM
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9. You are here, babylonsister, for the single purpose of stifling positive posts about our Party
If you can't see that the above poster was posting in reference to Bill letting Poppy Bush off the hook, then you are simply here in this thread to disrupt. You are only happy when you're ruining someone else's positive posts, especially if that person supported Hillary during the Primaries. It's people like you who love to make the division in our Party even wider instead of bringing it closer together. You're just upset because I don't go running around bashing Obama.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:21 AM
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11. Darn it, that's my MO, snakie! Did you have to tell everyone?
And your efforts to bring the party together have been remarkable. Anyone interested only has to search for 'Goddess of Peace' on DU to see how prolific you were. :rofl:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:32 AM
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15. My efforts to bring the Party together are documented, so you are getting no where
with your bullshit implications about me and your incredibly low attempts at painting me as something I'm not, when it comes to my loyalties to our Party. BTW, I didn't notice you chiming in on either of these two threads of mine. I wonder why:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6318252

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=6308477
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:34 AM
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17. Maybe I wasn't around? Maybe I was out of town/state/country?
How long did it take you to find threads I wasn't involved in? And FTR, you're cute, but you're not the end all/be all DUer I feel I have to respond to all the time. Did I mention how cute you are, especially when angry? :smoke:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:15 AM
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8. You mean you're NOT concerned about Iranian 'nukes' story being hyped up to excuse war?
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 08:15 AM by blm
I am. And warned about it many times.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:19 AM
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10. I didn't say that, blm. n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:29 AM
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13. Surely you're not more concerned about politics of the issue than the actual ISSUE of Iran
Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 08:33 AM by blm
and how we got to this time and what it means for this nation and the world?

Isn't it political gamesmanship that allowed these problems to develop, while those who SOUGHT resolution and fuller understanding of the issues were targeted for derision, attack, and their efforts undermined and sometimes even sabotaged from within their own party?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:35 AM
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18. I'm mostly concerned with winning the election & sticking to our message of using diplomacy
as the means to a much better solution to the world's problems. Those two things are what my post was supposed to be about. :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:55 AM
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24. Engaging Iran honestly and RESPECTING American voters by sharing the truth about these matters
will pay off politically in the long run. Too bad for this nation and the world that some Dems didn't figure that out long ago, then we wouldn't have had to suffer with the growing power of BushInc and his cronies as they were protected on their involvement in these matters throughout the 90s and through today.

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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:10 AM
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4. I agree.
I bought into his message of hope, but I'm beginning to have second thoughts. I want to hear details about his plans for our country. All I've heard so far is how he's changing into McMcCain.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:21 AM
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12. Changing into McCain?!?!?
Really? Fox much?
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:34 AM
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16. You have a PROBLEM with VIGOROUS DIPLOMACY which is what Obama is calling for????????
I think some of you folks better start paying attention. I'm really concerned about the fact that many here on DU lap up the media drivel instead of getting the FACTS!!!

My God... please people...wake up!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:39 AM
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20. There are still people on DU who will
slice and dice Obama whenever the opportunity arises, Windy. I know you've seen it; I have, and it's pretty prevalent. They are also, quelle shocko, the same people who didn't want him to win the primary. Sooo, I just take it with a grain of salt. Maybe half a grain... Any excuse is a good enough one. Go figure. Dems? :shrug:
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SidneyCarton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:33 AM
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23. Spare me.
How is he turning into McCain?

Has he advocated a bombing campaign against Iran without any diplomatic engagement?

Has he demanded we make the Bush tax cuts permanent?

Has he promised an American troop presence in Iraq for at least the next 50 years?

Has he promised to appoint judges to the Supreme Court who will overturn Roe v. Wade?

If so, please provide links from reputable sites to back up such a claim. If not, then please be so kind as to not post careless invective without the basis of fact.
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:36 AM
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19. Good thing this morning
that Obama specifically said he'd combine economic sanctions with diplomacy to resolve this situation. Obama is clearly listening to your concerns.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:39 AM
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22. That is good.
I'm glad to hear that because the Republicans are going to do their best to draw him into another battle of who can protect us the best. I think Obama is too smart to fall for it, and if he sticks to a strong message of diplomacy we should be alright.
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 08:39 AM
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21. I agree....
K&R
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