berni_mccoy
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:32 PM
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Can We Finally Admit That There Are Plenty of DUers here who Don't Give A Damn |
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Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 02:35 PM by berni_mccoy
About the truth or their leaders?
When it was RUMORED that Pelosi was going to block the contempt charge on Rove... too many people here were ready to burn her at the stake.
I *almost* stood up and defended her, but since I had already stuck my neck out for Obama on his FISA stance, reporting the facts that noone here seemed to care to listen to, I was labeled a Bush-enabler, a fascist, even a Nazi. It was so much fun being attacked here :sarcasm:. I was worried that if I said, "hey, according to who?" I would be banned from this site.
But now it turns out that the rumors against Pelosi were just that. Rumors and nothing more. She is not blocking the contempt charge.
My, my, my, so many here have so much crow to eat. Happy dining. Maybe next time people here will chew on a little facts before rushing to the sweet desert of pre-judgemental revenge. The truth is much healthier for you anyway.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:34 PM
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1. We don't trust the media here EXCEPT |
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for when it reports something divisive about someone we don't much like already.
Then we swallow the bait, hook, line and sinker.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:40 PM
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For such a supposedly media-savvy bunch, DUers are at times incredibly gullible.
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:28 PM
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:35 PM
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2. I think some are looking for a fight |
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Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 02:36 PM by Bullet1987
I actually agree with the Rove outrage but they'll never be satisfied unless Obama turned into Kucinich and alienated the vast majority of the country.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:35 PM
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3. When you try to present a |
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"let's confirm and wait and see" approach, you'll get many who agree with you, but in the meantime the same topic gets posted several times. They take on a life of their own and there's only so much one can do.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:36 PM
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4. Aw Bernie, thanks for doing the heavy lifting on arguing about FISA. Very few DU'ers actually want |
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do discuss things or gain any new perspective.
Most are here to prove how smart they are and how uber-liberal they can be.
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peace13
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:37 PM
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5. We are out here waiting and watching. |
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We call, we write, we raise money. If Pelosi needs us to know and understand her position all she needs to do is speak to us. The silence from these Dems in power is deafening. If she defended her position, you would not have to. I feel your pain. peace, kim
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:38 PM
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Every party has their poopers.
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TheWraith
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:42 PM
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8. Error: You've already recommended that thread. |
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Error: You've already recommended that thread.
Error: You've already recommended that thread.
Error: You've already recommended that thread.
Error: You've already recommended that thread.
Dammit, I want to recommend it MORE!
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:31 PM
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21. Hate it when that happens! |
TooBigaTent
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:42 PM
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9. Has she put the weight of the Speaker's position behind contempt charges? Didn't think so. |
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She is no shero just because she is NOT blocking charges. She needs to actively and aggressively support them. At least as hard as she fights for Bush's agenda.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:44 PM
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10. When you stop acting like an absurdly uninformed fool, maybe people will take you seriously. |
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Until then, if you can't tell the difference between "Doing everything that you want in exactly the way you want" and "fighting for Bush's agenda," you might want to keep the degree to which you publicly embarass yourself by opening your mouth to a minimum.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:45 PM
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12. well some of us will never take a person seriously who starts by suggesting that |
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:27 PM
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18. It's already on my ignored list... |
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:30 PM
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20. Zing. Target. Trophy. nt |
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Thu Jul-10-08 09:56 AM
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30. So, you believe that any and all stances on issues should be welcomed in our party? |
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Pardon me for not inviting the Klan to join us. The idea that every view is valid and we must accept everyone so that we "win" is just plain stupid. If that is your position, why have different parties at all?
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:55 PM
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15. Bernie's post is not making her a hero. Get your facts. He's stating the crucifiction |
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Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 02:57 PM by vaberella
of Pelosi on this board was based on misinformation, speculation and rumor. Further more, the fact people on this board don't read things carefully and jump to conclusions. Rather than gathering the facts they make up what they believe is the facts on snippets of spurious information.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:44 PM
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11. Its the "lets destroy our leaders" strategy to win an election |
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follows the "destroy" the village to save it
the eat the cake and have it
and the ever popular
"Everything is roughly equivalent to the IWR" strategy
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:48 PM
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Edited on Wed Jul-09-08 02:48 PM by sandnsea
People wonder why they aren't influencing the process - maybe it's because they don't know the whole truth and therefore can't be taken seriously at all.
On edit, them, not you.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:52 PM
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14. I commend you and MERH on FISA. I definitely took notice of the language when I read the |
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posts from you guys. I know it's a risk here, but I think you guys definitely enlightened a few of us who want as much information as possible and do our own research---without depending on people we "trust" to do it for us. Most who are so loud are reading an old FISA or not even reading it but hearing what others say cause they're too damn lazy.
Never give up on the fight and keep this perspective alive man. Some of us are listing and are definitely older than 5 year olds so we don't waste time on name calling.
Peace. Vabby.
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Wed Jul-09-08 02:58 PM
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The crowd mentality has even made YOU shy about getting into the fray? Please say it ain't so!!!!
I'm with ya on this one,my friend! :thumbsup:
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:09 PM
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17. I feel like I'm wasting my time on DU lately. |
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All this wailing and gnashing of teeth and you have people in the real world concerned about putting gas in their cars, paying the damn bills and finding jobs.
And we're sitting here on DU ready to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:38 PM
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22. Actually Connie we aren't all sitting. |
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I have been busting my hump for Obama. I get frustrated , like you do, when I listen to what feels like the majority here. My hope is that those who are volunteering to make this thing happen are out on the streets and not here day in and day out. We have a great Obama advance team in our county and we are working side by side to help Obama take Ohio by storm. peace, Kim
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:58 PM
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25. I have to admit, though.. |
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I went to a "Town Meeting" last evening with Governor Patrick here in Massachusetts, and I firmly told him we will NOT allow him to be part of the Obama Administration. We will build a wall around the state if we have to, but President Obama CANNOT HAVE HIM!
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Wed Jul-09-08 04:10 PM
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The states are suffering and when we get a good leader it is a panic to think of losing him/her.
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Wed Jul-09-08 03:39 PM
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23. Wutsamatta? You don' wanna be parta da herd? |
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Neither do I ...... I **so** understand what you're saying.
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Wed Jul-09-08 04:27 PM
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27. the truth is one thing, our leaders are something else |
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the truth is that our 'leaders' have continually thrown us under the bus as they rolled over for Bush. So a rumour that they are planning to throw us under the bus again and roll over for Bush Inc. again is all too believable. They simply don't have enough cred to make people say 'Are you sure, because they have never let us down in the past?'
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Wed Jul-09-08 04:54 PM
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28. She's let us down so many times, it was easy to believe she would have done this |
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She has a crappy track record, that's for sure.
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Wed Jul-09-08 06:44 PM
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29. Riiiiight. It's HER FAULT you've jumped to conclusions. Got it. |
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Thu Jul-10-08 09:59 AM
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31. Doesn't this remind you of what was said about Obama during the primaries?! |
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It's his fault that the world revolves around the sun. :D
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Thu Jul-10-08 10:03 AM
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32. What drove me crazy is how many STARTED NEW THREADS on Pelosi and Rove |
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Just to be sure we saw that THEY HATED NANCY TOO. A couple of lines above the Nancy blocking contempt thread there came a brand new thread -- F*** NANCY PELOSI or something like that. And what's the fresh topic they needed a new thread for? Nancy blocking contempt. But I guess their anger was more intense than the original so they needed a brand new thread for their precious feelings?
If people would just take ten seconds to look for an existing thread and join that instead of starting their own, that would help a lot.
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Thu Jul-10-08 10:24 AM
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33. I'll share mine with you... |
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I didn't post any threads on it but was willing (because of Pelosi's past behavior) to believe it was true - I'm relieved to find it is not. But, you can have the other half of my crow because nothing, nothing, NOTHING good is coming from Obama's FISA vote - it was a colossal fuck-up
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