NOW will you help retire Clinton's campaign debt?

[ecstatic]

:shrug: A lot of posts today reiterating Clinton's vote on FISA today.

This is just in time for the unity event Clinton and Obama are doing tonight.

Are you going to donate to Clinton now, and if so, how much?

[PresidentObama]

1. You really think this will cool DU's obsessive smearing of Hillary Clinton

[Political Heretic]

2. She pretty much did it to herself.

[PresidentObama]

6. Nope. Lies.

[Political Heretic]

38. wrong

[KittyWampus]

3. Clinton's vote today was pretty inconsistent with her record.

[PresidentObama]

9. Obamas is pretty inconsistent with his words.

I will still strongly support him, but it was disappointing--wasn't it?

[xchrom]

14. really?

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the The Humane Society of the United States 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Trust for Historic Preservation 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People 95 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Education Association 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Wilderness Coalition 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 95 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Children's Defense Fund 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Association of University Women 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Organization for Women 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the U.S. Public Interest Research Group 91 percent in 2006.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the U.S. Public Interest Research Group 100 percent in 2005
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence 100 percent from 1988-2003 (Senate) or 1991-2003 (House).
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Public Health Association 80 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Service Employees International Union 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 93 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 93 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers 84 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Worker 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees 88 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of Government Employees 83 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Committee for an Effective Congress 95 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 100 percent in 2005.
According to the National Journal - Composite Liberal Score's calculations, in 2005, Senator Clinton voted more liberal on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 80 percent of the Senators.
According to the National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy's calculations, in 2005, Senator Clinton voted more liberal on social policy issues than 83 percent of the Senators.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Alliance for Retired Americans 100 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 92 percent in 2005.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Bread for the World 100 percent in 2003-2004.
Senator Clinton supported the interests of the The Partnership for the Homeless 100 percent in 2003-2004.
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can...

[Marie26]

27. She CO-SPONSORED Dodd's amendment last time

& spoke out against giving the telcoms retroactive immunity - and that was during the campaign season. This is totally consistent.

[paulk]

53. that is simply not true, though I expect no less from you

her statement on FISA from January:

"Today, I will vote against Republican efforts to shortchange the debate on the FISA Amendments Act, important legislation that would modernize our surveillance laws and give our nation's intelligence professionals the tools they need to fight terrorism and make our country more secure. Rather than allow the Senate the opportunity to consider important amendments to this vital legislation, Republicans are instead blocking meaningful debate on this bill by playing procedural games, choosing instead to score cheap political points at the expense of our Homeland Security.

This legislation deserves a thorough debate. Several provisions - including those which would have a profound impact on the civil liberties of Americans - need to be the subject of careful deliberation. For example, the bill under consideration gives telecommunication companies blanket retroactive immunity for their alleged cooperation in the administration's warrantless wiretapping program. I continue to believe that a grant of retroactive immunity is wrong, and I have cosponsored Senator Dodd's amendment to remove that provision from the bill. The Bush Administration has blatantly disregarded Americans' civil liberties over the past seven years, and I simply will not trust them to protect Americans' privacy rights. With the temporary Protect America Act set to expire on February 1st, I strongly believe that we need to pass balanced legislation that protects our civil liberties and the rule of law while giving our law enforcement and intelligence agencies the tools they need to protect our country."

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Why don't you at least try to back up your smears every once in a while? Not that it would give you any credibility, you've already lost that...

[elocs]

4. Because, obviously, if you do not like or support Hillary Clinton,

then you must be "smearing" her. There is simply no way around it.

[PresidentObama]

12. Are you denying she was smeared almost daily here on DU?

Where were you?

[elocs]

21. Not everybody who disagreed with Clinton and posted their honest disagreement

was "smearing" her. Just because somebody does not want to help retire her debt does not mean they are smearing her either. But those who look for smears can find them everywhere or anywhere.

[PresidentObama]

24. Did I say that? Don't put words in my mouth.

[elocs]

29. Did I say you said it? It has long been the general attitude though, from the primary days. n/t

[madura]

59. she should have got away with the ridiculous things she said and did during the campaign?

and not matter how some like to agree with CNN and the like that the campaign was dirty on both sides, it was not. There is not one single thing that Obama said that could compare with the crap she said right on camera against him.

saying Clinton was 'likeable enough' is the big sin, apparently

[Indenturedebtor]

62. She said and did things during the Primaries that were completely unacceptable

I "smeared" her for that. I am now "smearing" Obama for his FISA vote.

I would never give her money to pay back what she spent dividing the party.

[jobycom]

10. Judging from the ignorance posted below yours, I'd guess no.

These fools are convinced they are right.

[xchrom]

5. yes -- i didn't donate to her campaign -- but i'll do 500. nt

[ecstatic]

17. OK. I can respect that

I personally won't be, but then again, I'm not among the many crying foul over Obama's vote today.

[xchrom]

22. i like her -- and she was misrepresented here.

i went with edwards and that was a mistake.

[vaberella]

7. You've got to be kidding me?! She made the debt herself, she should pay it. Obama earned his money

through hard work and the support of the people. Unfortunately she wasn't able to manage her costs and spending, that's on her. Plus, she has enough money to cover it.

[gateley]

8. I would if I could - nt

[kevinmc]

11. She and her Husband have $100mil ..... and want me to pay off her debts......HAHAHAHAHAHA

Right .. I'll get right on that.

[vaberella]

15. Gimme a *pound*

[TwilightGardener]

31. My first thought, exactly. Thank you. Send Billy Boy out to make some speeches

fer Christ sakes.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

51. Excellent point.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

13. No...

I will not send Hillary money. I can barely pay the bills here. I doubt that the Clinton's have a problem making ends meet. I am done sending money to anyone at this point. I can not afford it.

BTW, I would like it if - when you attack me for this, do not tell me what a sexist/hater I am. That is getting tired.

[Inspired]

16. If I donate, the amount will be none of your business.

[ecstatic]

True. It's none of my business. Just trying to see

how much of the 30 million we can take care of tonight. :)

[AllentownJake]

18. I don't make enough money

to be donating to campaigns that don't exist anymore. I have two campaigns I'm giving too that are alive.

If the rich want to bail out the rich. I'm more than ok with that.

[stray cat]

19. Why am I expected to budget my money and take care of candidates that overspend by millions?

[MiaCulpa]

20. I didn't contribute to her campaign, but...

I will give to help retire her debt. It was often hard to like anyone during the primary. But I've always appreciated Senator Clinton's hard work on many issues, and look forward to helping in any way possible with her future efforts from the Senate -- or beyond.

-Diane

[Ytzak]

23. Clinton took the risk. She should be willing to face the cost.

She can afford it, anyway.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

52. Wait . . . you're talking about taking responsiblity?

[democrattotheend]

25. I'm donating whatever money I make from my "Hillary Has My Heart, Obama Has My Vote" stuff

I'm going to donate any money I make from selling http://www.zazzle.com/democrattotheend*/products/cg-196053165511745923">this stuff. And I will probably kick in a little of my own as well, especially if she makes good on her promise to work her heart out to help Obama get elected.

[Muttocracy]

26. no way - and gotta pay off Biden, Dodd, Edwards, Kucinich, and Richardson debt first anyway. nt

[Diamonique]

28. I gave her $50 when she gave her concession speech, and I'll give another $50 this weekend. n/t

[Lucky 13]

30. Nope. All my cash is going to the ACLU.

But I will say that I sincerely thank Sen. Clinton on her vote today.

[Danger Mouse]

32. I thank her for her vote, but no.

[CakeGrrl]

33. Why? A symbolic vote doesn't change much

She earned her campaign debt by running a poor campaign longer than she should have.

Why should I give her what amounts to a 'reward' for casting a decent vote? For all I know, she did it to score political brownie points because she probably knew it was going to pass by a wide margin.

And am I a cynic enough to think that she knows the primary wounds are still raw enough that this split with Obama wouldn't resonate? Yep.

Look at the mini shitstorms that have flared up here because of today's vote - there are about 10 threads in GD: P with her name on them today, and she isn't even the presumptive Democratic nominee. What is that?

Anyway, to answer the original question: No. Still.

[apocalypsehow]

34. Not one dime, EVER. n/t.

:thumbsdown:

[ZombieHorde]

35. Why would anyone do that? I don't understand.

[scarletwoman]

36. A ha hahaha hahaha hahahahahahaha!

No fucking way. Let the Clintons sell their house to pay it off.

[Popol Vuh]

37. Why? Will she help me retire my debts?

Why should Clinton be relieved of her financial responsibilities? She isn't anybody special. Besides, since she's still a multi-millionaire why does she need my or anybody else's help? I think this is just another example of how shameful politicians are. Here they are with millions and sticking out their hands to us poor folks. Totally shameful.

[CreekDog]

39. how does doing so help any Democrat win in November?

that's the question i'm asking.

[hedgehog]

56. Excellent Question!

Better to send the money to a local Democrat in a down-ticket race!

[Undercurrent]

40. No

I live on SSDI, and am also the sole caregiver for my elderly father who lives on SSI. I donate as much as I can to our Democratic candidates, but I would be insane to donate to a millionaire.

[davidpdx]

41. No

and if the poll is any indication of how DU members feel, neither do must people.

[ecstatic]

42. It certainly put the flame wars from yesterday in context

I love the poll feature. It is the voice of reason during times when a select few are making A LOT of noise.

[nc4bo]

43. What is her debt? $30 million?

If each of her 18 million suppporters sent just $2 each - that's it just 2 lousy damn dollars, her debt would be paid off.

i'm not trying to start anything and i'm not pointing fingers. I'm just trying to show how easy it would be to get her debt paid.

[invictus]

44. The Clintons should pay their own debts with their millions. n/t

[Clark2008]

45. Why?

Hillary Clinton is a millionaire. My husband and I are lower middle class and burdeoned with $4 gas, a rising cost of living and the cost of rearing two children.

She can retire her own damn debt.

[Ino]

46. HELL no! (n/t)

[madura]

47. perhaps when those celestial choirs stop singing

and when i figure out what that absolutely creepy laugh of hers was about when asked about conflict of interest and the colombia trade deals

or maybe if she jsut apologies for the Iraq war vote or for being such a dick during the campaign

[Hepburn]

48. IMO, it is more important to send $$$ to Obama to defeat McSame...

...than to retire Hillary's campaign debt. When I reach the max contributions...then the money will go for gas to get around and do Obama stuff and also it will go for buying Obama campaign stuff that raises money for the Obama campaign.

Retiring Hillary's debt compared to defeating McSame??? GMAFB...retiring the debt she made for herself is of NO importance when compared to making sure McSame is not elected.

JMHO

Edit for typo

[greguganus]

49. She should tell Bill to call in the secret library donors. n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

50. Not a chance - Hillary frittered away that money trashing Obama. Gimme a break!

[jesus_of_suburbia]

54. NO. I still like Hillary, but why should I give $20 when she has 100 million?

I'll give to a CURRENT campaign, but I'm not giving to a retired campaign.

[cherokeeprogressive]

55. Not one single red penny.

Oops, is the phrase "red penny" racist?

[Az_lefty]

57. For Pete's sake, their worth 100mil and I have to help pay her debt?

I don't think so, she did it to herself. This is not an attempt to smear Hillary it's just the way things work.

[hedgehog]

58. I wasn't going to bring this up, but since you ask........

What is the difference between Hillary pumping her own money into the race in January and any other millionaire running a vanity campaign? Bloomberg bought the Mayor's office in New York and the only reason Romney was ever in the race was that he was willing to spend his own money. True, she did get people to donate later on, but at that point she was buying a place at the table.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0208/Clinton_loaned_her_campaign_5_million.html

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

60. LOL

Wanna fund my trip to Vegas?

[Beacool]

61. I never stopped sending money to her campaign.

:shrug:

[madura]

63. i would consider donating tothat kid that sold his bike for Clinton's coffers

she's probably asking him to sell his Wii now to cover her extravagances