Obama supports FISA cause he wants to protect his own life in the White House

[BluegrassDem]

Obama can't come right out and say it, but a President Obama knows that he would be at a high risk of an assassination attempt and he would need all the powers of the government to spy on domestic terrorist organizations, such as those white supremacist skinhead groups. Obama is very smart and he knows that he's gotta protect his life cause there's a lot of whackos out there that will try to do him harm.

[xultar]

1. Yeah right, and If Hillary Clinton had voted for it she would have been a GOP WHORE.

I can't believe all this shit. Obama votes for it and he's saving his life and he's running for PResident.

Hillary got RAKED over the COALS for doing shit because she was running.

Why is it o.k. for Obama and not for Hillary?

Just askin.

[DesertFlower]

5. that question can't be answered

because hillary voted against it.

[BluegrassDem]

6. Fuck Hillary, this ain't about her

I could give a shit if she ever voted again. This is about Obama knowing he's gonna need to diligent against domestic hate groups after he wins the presidency. He needs this.

[xultar]

9. He did it cuz he's running for fucking President, he is a Centrist politician.

[Eric Condon]

31. Yep, he's a centrist politician, unlike Hillary.

:sarcasm:

What exactly are you trying to accomplish by bringing up this months-old bitterness about Hillary? None of the people who were anti-Hillary in the primaries (I'll freely admit, I was one of them) are still talking about her in a negative way. Why are you bringing her primary run into this in the first place?

[LostinVA]

41. You haven't been reading some of the bonkers threads, then

It's like March 2008.

[sufrommich]

14. All presidents face danger from the assorted nuts

out there,it's the chance one takes in the run for office. It sounds downright reactionary to argue that Obama should be able to use powers well beyond the constitution because he could conceivably be a target,that comes with the territory.Maybe we should give police special rights outside of the laws of the Constitution too?

[LostinVA]

24. You should care about a Democratic Senator's vote

And, regardless of how one feels about her, she has worn the white hat far more than the black hat during her tenure in the Senate.

[JoFerret]

28. Your narrow view and short sight

are revealing.

Obama for fuhrer NOW. He needs the power. To protect himself from opposing viewpoints.

He does not need people like Hillary in the senate. She is nothing. We don't need her. He does not need the constitution. He needs POWER and he needs it NOW.

[Windy]

19. Hillary voted for the IWR and Kyl/Lieberman... didn't care about the military members who were going

to die as a result of that!

And in light of what is going on with Iran... Kyl/Lieberman may cause the death of more men and women of the military not to mention Iranians before her friend George Bush gets out of office!

[JoFerret]

25. Neophytes

to politics are always purist on the one hand. And hypocrites on the other.

It's easy that way - you are always a winner.

[DesertFlower]

2. good point. i'm probably

going to get "flamed" for this, but i don't see the big deal with FISA. yes, it's unconstitutional but we live in dangerous times. frankly, i don't care if they read my e-mails or listen to my phone conversations. if they can catch terrorists before they act, then it's fine with me.

[DrDan]

uh . . . I think it has something to do with telecom immunity

[saracat]

11. I care. I don't want to live in a Stalinist society. If we have to live like this

we may as well have a dictatorship, and yes, it is that serious and it is a "Big deal" Such a "Big deal " in fact it is the reson we founded this nation. But I guess that doesn't matter anymore. Privacy rights, who needs them? Just think, we wouldn;t have needed the Revolutionary War and we could have quarterwed the British Soldiers!

The Americans of today would have said . "Don't make a fuss, we don't want to upset parliment. They will give us rights one day".

[ecstatic]

26. Yet, you're voting for McCain, correct? nt

[saracat]

44. I have never said I was voting for McCain. I will be voting for the democratic nominee even if I am

holding my nose.

[sufrommich]

17. My God, please reread what you just wrote. You're

spouting the right wing line.

[DesertFlower]

20. right wing, my ass.

every time someone on this forum disagrees they're told they're being right wingers, including our future president, barack obama.

give me a break.

[sufrommich]

22. This sounds like a Democratic principle to you?

"frankly, i don't care if they read my e-mails or listen to my phone conversations. if they can catch terrorists before they act, then it's fine with me. "

Which part of that sentence does not step on every democratic notion ever uttered?

[DesertFlower]

23. i guess we'll have to ask obama

and the other democrats who voted for it.

[Hoof Hearted]

35. They work for us.

And they are wrong.

[saracat]

46. They are our employess and they represent us. And they are indeed wrong.

[rpannier]

34. Your argument is right-wing

And it is the same argument people used against the American Revolution...
Hence Franklin's utterance, "Those who would forgo liberty for safety are entitled to neither and will surely lose both."

When you lose yours, I'm sure you'll be okay with it because you'll be safe from all those scary terrorists, or whatever the new enemy is.

[saracat]

45. Frightening , isn't it?

[ecstatic]

3. forgot sarcasm tag?

:shrug:

[Speck Tater]

4. OMFG! DU has collectively gone INSANE! NT

[xultar]

7. Yes, it has. Funny as fuck though.

[Olney Blue]

8. A president is sworn in to protect the Constitution.

[saracat]

12. Exactly.

[Windy]

21. How about to be commander in chief and to send troops to die only when necessary to protect and

defend the constitution of the united states. Seems that Hillary forgot about that...

[DrDan]

10. well - with a warrant he can do all the spying his heart desires

[Larkspur]

13. All tyrants use the same logic as what you describe

and of course if innocent people get hurt or killed in the process of protecting Numero Uno, that's ok because the Anointed One is saved.

[sufrommich]

15. It's downright creepy and it was posted without a

shred of sarcasm.

[Larkspur]

48. The logic to vote for this FISA bill is creepy

[Patsy Stone]

16. Wow.

I'm not nearly high enough to talk to you.

[LostinVA]

27. hahahahahhaha

Sweetie darling, why not???

[Patsy Stone]

36. Well...

Maybe some huffing would get me to that level, but I don't think even that would do it; and, bollocks, I'm fresh out of crystal meth.

:toast:

[LostinVA]

40. I have Sudafed and Clatitan-D -- would that help?

Just don't tell Saffy I told you so.

Cheers!

[ProgressIn2008]

37. LOL. Best reply to the most hilarious lame excuse of the day! nt

[highplainsdem]

18. Really? I heard the pro-FISA vote was to protect Santa, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny.

:sarcasm:


Well, it makes as much sense as some of the other rationalizations I've seen posted...

It was a disgraceful vote for an outrageous bill. Thank God some senators were brave enough and conscientious enough to vote against it.

[Hoof Hearted]

29. What other parts of the constitution should we suspend to protect specific presidents?

The president is sworn to protect and defend the constitution, and the constitution exists to protect the people from tyranny, no matter what letter rests inside the parentheses beside the President's name.

[Skip Intro]

30. Over the fucking rainbow. nt

[theliberalking]

32. Under the old FISA rules, our intelligence agencies could have spied on any plotter

On our president\'s life. FISA needed no fixing. You do not fix what ain\'t broke.

[mix]

33. u r delusional

eom

[GoldieAZ49]

38. It is all about the POWER. No one running will vote to limit their own power.

Being POTUS is a very elite club. They have more in common with each other than any of us.

[Bluebear]

39. Well, I would say you know about whackos, so maybe you have something.

[LostinVA]

42. Live free or die, baby!!!!!!!!

[Bluebear]

43. Oh HELL yes!

[LostinVA]

47. Just for you:

The old General answered the invitation/From soldiers under his command/I can't make the reunion boys/I hope you'll understand ... Though I'm not there/I'd like to share these few words with you/Live free or die, live free or die/Fight the fight with every breath/There are worse things than death!