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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:22 PM
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When we won in 2006 I expected BIG things from this Congress.
I thought Pelosi would KICK SOME GOP ASS. But I have been really disappointed.
What a disappointment they have become.
War still 100% funded.
FISA passed with immunity.
Same old politics.

The dems have no guts!

And when the DNC called tonight for a donation, I told them so.

I love OBAMA and will support him 100%, but I am disappointed in the whole bunch.

Bush is laughing his ass off about the dems at this point.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:25 PM
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1. I knew we were in trouble when Hoyer beat Murtha for Majority Leader
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:29 PM
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2. That was a "we are so f'ed" moment for me, too. n/t
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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:31 PM
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3. What can we do about it? Seems public opinion doesn't matter
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:29 PM
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14. Public Opinion of this Congress is so low
it makes Bush look popular

neither Congress nor Bush care.


To quote Cheney: "So?"



The power structure is from the top down not the bottom up. Once a politician is elected they become part of the problem. I can see why the founding fathers rebelled.


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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:38 PM
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16. Seems like they don't even care
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:32 PM
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4. Pelosi's just been a fucking joy.
I'll never judge the Germans for Hitler again. It can happen anywhere you have a dumbed down populace puffed up with pride over accidently being born on a certain piece of land. I'm so disappointed, but then I have to remember all the Dems like Kucinich and Feingold who are still fighting the good fight against such dismal odds.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:36 PM
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yeah, big disappointment
nothing done on energy except a small hike in CAFE that kicks in, what was it in 2083 or something?

Nothing done about healthcare costs

Nothing done to stop the war

Nothing done to balance the budget.

Nothing done to stop outsourcing.

Remind me why I voted? At least we didn't attack Iran. Maybe with Obama we can get something done. maybe

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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:44 PM
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6. Add to that NOTHING DONE ABOUT PAPERLESS ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES!
Hoyer stalled and screwed up every bill that would have even partially protected the 2008 election with paper ballots, including losing on EMERGENCY BALLOTS in HR 5036.

Hoyer is a bag of sleaze who should be voted out -- if we CAN given the state of our voting process.
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lordsummerisle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:36 PM
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5. Another Irony
is that according to Glenn Greenwald the FISA bill had a more difficult time getting through a Republican-led Congress:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/index.html
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:47 PM
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7. I was never under the delusion that the Democratic Party was going to act like an opposition party
should. Indeed, considering how conservative they are, I'm actually surprised that people are surprised at all.
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:40 PM
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17. Surprised, no: Disappointed, yes. nt
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:19 AM
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21. Not to mention how spineless they are
I didn't have a lot of hope for Congress, either, but it's even worse than I expected.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 10:51 PM
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8. thank you for having the integrety not to dump all your frustration on
Obama- who doesn't deserve the shit being thrown at him- from US- the "good guys".

We Americans need a frickin enema.


peace~
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:11 PM
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9. Don't get your hopes up that any real 'change' is coming---except that we'll
be less free tomorrow than we were today, and so on. Sad state of affairs, to feel so doomed and so powerless. How do they make us feel this way, when we clearly outnumber them? Maybe fluoride in the water really DOES make you passive.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:38 PM
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15. oh- don't have to "hope" for change- change comes
whether we want it to or not.

Most of the time people would rather stick with misery than risk hope.

I've found its almost a self-fulfilling prophesy. There isn't enough time left to waste it mourning what might have been.

Mccain would be a true disaster. Obama offers something many people are too afraid to embrace, that nasty word ...HOPE-
so - instead of taking the risk of being disappointed, they seem to be choosing the easy out- the cyanide solution.

The worst of all betrayals - self destruction-

It's up to each one of us to NOT to give in- for the sake of ALL of us.
:hi:
peace~
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:16 PM
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10. Hmmm, let's see...
Ashcroft is gone.
Gonzales is gone.
Rumsfeld is gone.
Rove is gone.
Minimum wage increase.
How many Repub congressmen gone?
1000 roll call votes. Never been done before.
Increased veterans benefits.
Increased student loans.
Many hearings publicly airing critical issues.

Stem cell research and SCHIP blocked by Repubs.

Even just halting the progress of the GOP agenda is pretty good.

We can keep raising the bar, but at some point we're just looking for reasons to be pissed off.

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:16 PM
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11. then you had unrealistic expectations
Democratic members of Congress are not created by a cookie cutter. There are, and always have been, a range of Democratic members from the fairly conservative, to the middle of the pack, to more liberal/progressive. It was obvious before election day and even moreso the day after that the Democratic "majority" was not an across the board liberal/progressive majority. Rather, it was a mixture of liberals and conservatives and moderates. As a result, any expectation that the party would move in lockstep was simply a product of not paying close enough attention.
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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:40 AM
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22. Well, then, that opens up a whole new question
Why does our party have to be "a range of Democratic members from the fairly conservative, to the middle of the pack, to more liberal/progressive," while the Rethugs manage to get away with being 99% hard-right wackos? Am I missing something here? Aside from a very tiny sliver of a percentage (Hagel, Lugar) who are remotely in the ballpark of sanity, no one seems to expect the GOP to be "moderate," but we're expected to have a "range"?

My question is, if they're gonna be a party of Cheneys, why can't we be a party of Feingolds?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:47 AM
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24. why? Because that's who gets elected. That's why.
Do you think Heath Shuler's district is suddenly going to develop a hankering for a Dennis Kucinich clone?

And the repubs voting in lockstep has really paid off hasn't it...they're vaunted permanent majority is in tatters and they are looking at their second straight election with double digit losses in the House.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 11:00 AM
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25. They are paying the price for being so closely aligned now.
Their views are so tightly controlled that they have seriously damaged their brand. I suspect there are a lot of people out there now who will, all else being equal, vote against anyone with an 'R' after their name.
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:22 PM
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12. The "majority" in the Senate
has not helped; it's as deadlocked as it can get.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:26 PM
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13. Cheney, Rove, Rumsfield, Condi all of them are laughing
and with good reason, for all their BS talk the dems in Washington are a bunch of followers, not leaders. A dem year indeed.

I have seen neutered dogs with more balls than the whole lot of them. The few that do speak up and vote democratic are undercut by fellow dems. They should be outraged...but I don't hear them either.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 11:48 PM
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18. Bush must have something on some Dems?
he's probably threatened them.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:08 AM
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19. WE DIDN'T WIN IN 2006!!!! Why do people STILL not understand this?!?!?!?!
It's SO damn frustrating.

Yes, we have a mathematical majority HOWEVER we do not have anywhere needed the majority needed to affect change. I said it that night and I'm still saying it because it's still true but apparently not everyone's heard it yet.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:10 AM
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20. are you disappointed in Obama?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:42 AM
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23. SURPRISE! - I expected a helluva lot more from Pelosi, huge disappointment...HUGE!
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