NattPang
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Thu Jul-10-08 12:50 AM
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Poll question: How powerful is the Media during general elections? |
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Does the corporate media have undue influence over our general elections?
How well must a Presidential Candidate manage the media to win a general election?
Name a candidate who handled the media well and won.
When measuring media influence, remember The Telecoms Act of 1996 that changed everything.
Please Vote the media's strength and make your comment.
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NattPang
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Thu Jul-10-08 12:52 AM
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1. General election, not the primaries. |
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Thu Jul-10-08 12:52 AM
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2. The internet has kicked a hole, but the national narrative still prevails excluding foreign outlets. |
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Most folks, though, do not get foreign news outlets like the BBC and don't read papers like Le Monde. As a result, I voted for the second option.
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Thu Jul-10-08 12:53 AM
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3. WAY too damn much power. |
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Thu Jul-10-08 12:53 AM
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4. I would mix the two top options. |
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I don't think they are "all powerful", but they do have quite a bit of power because they do "set the narrative".
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Thu Jul-10-08 12:55 AM
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5. Can you name a candidate who won and managed the media well? |
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Thu Jul-10-08 11:11 AM
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27. Does that include stealing an election and managing the aftermath |
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with predetermined talking points about Guns Gays & God?
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Thu Jul-10-08 12:56 AM
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6. The M$M voices their opinions as news, or what if the sky should fall scenario's... |
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Thu Jul-10-08 09:48 AM
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Thu Jul-10-08 12:56 AM
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7. You missed a few possible choices, |
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Like:
"Not that powerful, people vote their pocketbooks and their fears and their misconceptions."
Activists and net savvy folk are a tiny minority, I'm afraid.
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Thu Jul-10-08 12:58 AM
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8. Can you name a general election when a candidate won |
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due to people voting their pocketbooks and their fears and their misconceptions although the media had a negative narrative for them?
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Thu Jul-10-08 01:09 AM
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10. Sure, though your premise is weird. |
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"due to people voting their pocketbooks and their fears and their misconceptions although the media had a negative narrative for them?"
To find one that fits all three criteria? Well, it's a silly challenge--why not add "and wore a size 10 shoe"?
I'd say Bush won largely out of voter's fears.
Many local elections are all about hopes and fears.
Look, not everyone visit the internet or watches cable news.
That you and I do tends to blur our perception of others, I'm afraid.
More people watched than American Idol finale than voted in 2004.
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Thu Jul-10-08 01:21 AM
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14. But the media liked George Bush. |
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Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 01:21 AM by NattPang
The media didn't make it difficult for Bush.
My premise is that people forget that the media is ruthless. Obama inoculated himself with this vote because he had to. He didn't really have a choice.
to feed fears about Obama becoming President, a No vote on FISA would have given the media the tool they needed.
Sure, they can now portray him as a flip flopper if they try hard enough, but Obama is running against an even bigger flip flopper, so that won't be as easy for them.
Obama, who some voters already believe is Muslim and whose patriotism has been questioned, cannot win this election with a media narrative that can portray him as soft on terrorism. Obama is in it to win, and his choices was to win or to satisfy some principle that would not change a thing.
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Thu Jul-10-08 01:00 AM
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9. way too powerful. Unfortunately |
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quite a bit of the America relies on quick 'sound-bites' and the 'in your face' item of the moment- for their political information. Researching a subject takes time and effort- Some people really don't have much of either left over from trying to make a living- others don't even realize how much the constant undercurrent of garbage is effecting them.
IMO-
peace~
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Thu Jul-10-08 01:11 AM
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11. So far, no one has named a candidate who won |
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while managing the media's power.
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Thu Jul-10-08 01:56 AM
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He was a master of the media
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Thu Jul-10-08 03:30 AM
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19. But that was before he gutted the Fairness Doctrine |
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and before 24/7 cable.
It was when elections were more fair, and managing media was a realistic political skill.
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Thu Jul-10-08 01:16 AM
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12. More Powerful Then Ever Before |
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With media consolidation, they dictate what most people think. For example, Rupert Murdoch controls Fox News, the Wall Street Journal, the Associate Press as a board member, Direct TV, and several other newspapers and media outlets. They pretty much dictate which issues get attention. Look at this board. Often times the topics are dictated by our reactions to the MSM spin such as Obama's alleged rightward shift.
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Thu Jul-10-08 01:48 AM
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Thu Jul-10-08 01:19 AM
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13. THEY ARE SALES PEOPLE TURNED PROPAGANDISTS |
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Thu Jul-10-08 03:21 AM
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17. With the Aid of Television, They Can Fool Most of the People Most of the Time |
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Thu Jul-10-08 03:26 AM
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18. Extremely. Very rarely do the media driven trends get bucked. |
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And the media is owned and operated by "Them", the neos, the fascists. Obama's primary victory is a rarity which we'll probably not see again for years.
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Thu Jul-10-08 08:01 AM
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20. hmm ... let's see ... here's two examples ... |
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1. Non-political person, but son of a former Presidential candidate and former VP, Albert Gore III is caught speeding in a hybrid car, marijuana found. Before 6am the next day, is the butt of many morning drive DJs' jokes ...
2. U.S. Senator Larry Craig is arrested for propositioning a male police officer in a public restroom, asking for homosexual sex. Craig, a rabid anti-gay activist, remains out of the news for months ...
Gee, ya think that the MSM can influence things?
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Thu Jul-10-08 08:04 AM
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Whoever the media wants to win will win. They set the narrative and the people follow it.
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Thu Jul-10-08 11:09 AM
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Thu Jul-10-08 09:47 AM
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22. The MSM is too powerful and too pro-corporate/special interests. That is why we need netroots to .. |
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Thu Jul-10-08 11:03 AM
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24. But I don't think we are enough. |
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During a Democratic Primary, we can affect things more, because more Democrats will read progressive bloggers.
During a general election, corporate news trumps the internet for those voters who are less informed.
That's why Hillary Clinton could campaign in Penn and Indiana as a gun toting wiskey drinking tough and hard hitting candidate.
Many here found Clinton's new image ridiculous, but the Hillary's act worked in those states. That's because the media didn't ridicule her, and legitimized her act instead. Meanwhile the corporate media played up Obama's bitter comments, over and over again.
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Thu Jul-10-08 11:08 AM
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25. They control everything in election campaigns. The can make or break it any way |
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that they choose. Most 'murcans are sheep.
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