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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 05:21 AM
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Only 2 choices, folks
As I have said before, your choices are not between McCain and some mythical candidate who agrees with you in every way. The choice is McCain (a nightmare candidate) and Obama.

Anybody here who is not prepared to help elect Obama is helping to elect McCain. And electing McCain would hasten the decline of our republic.

I never expected to agree 100% with every action of the Democratic nominee. But I know that, in the end, the Democrat will serve my interests (and the interests of the nation) far better than the Republican. That's why I was prepared to vote for Hillary if she had won the nomination -- and why I WILL vote for Obama in the fall.

Anybody got a problem with that?
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gleeindc Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 05:26 AM
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1. Tired of having to vote against a candidate
While I agree that the choice allows me to only vote for
Obama, I do not find myself approving of his (or all but 29 of
his colleagues in the Senate) recent actions on FISA (electing
a man you think you can trust as president offers no guarantee
that future presidents won't use the powers against political
opponents, afterall, wasn't FISA partly a reaction to
Watergate) or Faith-based expansion very promising of the
change I was hoping to see. I thought I might finally have the
opportunity to choose a candidate to vote for.
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OkieD Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 05:45 AM
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2. No problem
I will be voting the same way........I know what is at stake here. I know even though my vote won't count...real red state here...I will still show my support by voting.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 05:57 AM
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3. The media (and the public?) insist this election is a referendum on Obama
where McCain might as well be a pet rock. It will be like/dislike Obama, up or down.

That is the last-ditch effort of the cabal which has this country in a stranglehold. Get the spotlight off of their disastrous reign and get a popularity vote against Obama to come up one vote short, so they can continue unabated to dismantle the country and turn us all into serfs.

We absolutely MUST keep the spotlight on THEM. Not JUST McCain, but all that he represents. Rather than having the default be to pull the lever for the pet rock because Obama said such-and-such, it should be to pull the lever against the PNAC - period.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:01 AM
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4. I think we're well aware of this fact. But that doesn't mean not keeping Obama "honest", as it were.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:09 AM
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5. Only really one choice
Elect the sane. Sanity nearly always helps on almost any issue.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:13 AM
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6. No Probs from this Opihi...Vote BLUE
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:24 AM
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7. That is it
The problem is not criticizing the canidate. No one is above criticism. But what I have observed is there is a few, thankfully just a few, who have nothing but criticism. If you ask them point blank what would they support in Obama, you get no answer.

Some want him to fail. PERIOD. They really do.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:45 AM
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8. It is simply where we are it's idealistic to expect anymore when we haven't done the long term...
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 06:49 AM by barack the house
work to elect more genuine progressive candidates. The reality is the erosion has built up year after year, it's a long term journey to a better place.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:51 AM
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9. I saw Russ Feingold on with Rachel...
...last night, so sad and discouraged that the democrats did this. BUT...when talking about Obama he said that a President Obama could fix it and WILL fix it and that it is imperative that he get elected. He's smart, he knows that Obama is going to have to do things to get elected that aren't going to make us happy. If he can understand...we should too.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 06:53 AM
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10. Like that's gonna stop the drama queens from hyperventilating daily.
To them, the choice is not Obama v. McCain. It's THEM v. Obama.

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