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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:06 AM
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McCain Advisor Calls Americans "A Bunch Of Whiners" On Economy
Phil Gramm, the top economic advisor for John McCain, said in the Washington Times that:

"You've heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession," he said, noting that growth has held up at about 1 percent despite all the publicity over losing jobs to India, China, illegal immigration, housing and credit problems and record oil prices. "We may have a recession; we haven't had one yet."

"We have sort of become a nation of whiners," he said. "You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline" despite a major export boom that is the primary reason that growth continues in the economy, he said.


And here's rapid-fire response from Karen Finney, the DNC spokeswoman:

What John McCain, George Bush Phil Gramm just don't understand is that the American people aren't whining about the state of the economy, they are suffering under the weight of it -- the weight of eight years of Bush-enomics that John McCain and Phil Gramm have vowed to continue. How dare John McCain and his advisers so callously dismiss the challenges the American people face. no wonder voters feel John McCain is out of touch, he and his campaign don't even understand the everyday issues Americans are dealing with."


Out of touch, indeed.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:07 AM
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1. It's being covered on TPM, Dailykos, and HuffPo
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:08 AM
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3. Has McCain responded??
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 11:12 AM
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26. Per msnbc
McCain made a statement essentially saying that his campaign adviser does not speak for him. :crazy:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:07 AM
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2. If the DNC and Obama don't address this in ads, they don't DESERVE to win.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:08 AM
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4. did you miss the response from DNC's spokesperson, Karen, in my post?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:13 AM
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9. Yes, I saw that, and I'm glad they are on it. However, there must be ads, on national TV--
the general public doesn't read DNC press releases. This, IMO as a political observer, is one of the worst statements a campaign can make--the wealthy legislators and corporate greedmeisters on the McCain campaign who profited off of gaming the system and scamming ordinary folks now calling those ordinary folks "whiners". There must be damaging ads, or this is a massively wasted opportunity.
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dsomuah Donating Member (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:08 PM
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30. You aren't going to get much ad mileage from this
After all McCain didn't say it himself an advisor said it, and McCain disowned it.

What would be ideal is if you had a youtube clip of actual footage of McCain downplaying economic issues. Ads revolve around audiovisuals, and an ideal ad would have a clip of McCain saying "America is in a mental depression."

You could probably make a good web ad quoting Phil Graham, and Obama's can get a lot of mileage out of this on news conferences, and on the campaign trail, but that's about all you are going to get out of it.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:15 PM
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31. Nope. As this was McCain's chief economic advisor, there's only one way to play this--
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 12:16 PM by wienerdoggie
WITH ADS! BIG TIME! After all, the GOP is still going after Austin Goolsbee and Obama for supposed shifts on NAFTA. We can make some serious hay out of this--if it didn't matter that Obama distanced himself from someone like Wright, who wasn't an important part of his campaign, why should it matter that McCain tries to distance himself from Gramm, who is an INTEGRAL part of McCain's campaign?
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:10 AM
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5. Let's see how much MSM coverage this gets n/t
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:10 AM
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6. won't get any attention if The Page or Politico doesn't pick it up
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:17 AM
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14. it is on politico
But agree with you about The Page...that damn thing has become the new drudge report.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11658.html
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:19 AM
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15. but not picked up by Ben Smith. It's just Jonathan Martin.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:48 AM
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19. Ben needs to post about this.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:12 AM
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7. I want to see this
in an Obama ad. It really needs to be emphasized the level of comtempt the McCain campaign has for the American people. They are counting on low information voters to vote based just on the soundbites they offer up.

Well, this one is a good one and we should use it often.
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:12 AM
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8. m.c.johnny and gramm seem to offer the same approach as one of their buddies:
"Just relax and lay there and enjoy it."

there can't possibly be a hell befitting of this crew of neoconazis....
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DarienComp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:13 AM
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10. Watch how the pundits handle this: "Sure, it was incendiary, but didn't he have a point?"
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bkcc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:13 AM
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11. And then he shouted "Hey you kids, get off my lawn!"
Seriously, the Democrats need to run the hell out of these comments in their ad campaigns. McCain's team is about the same as Bush's was, except without the PR savvy.

I hope he and his people keep screwing themselves like this.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:14 AM
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12. Let's hope someone asks John Sidney McCain III on camera if he agrees with Gramm
I want to hear at a town hall meeting, someone like that veteran who dared to ask about JSM III's anti-veteran votes, ask if he agrees with his economic adviser Phil Gramm that America has become a nation of whiners.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:17 AM
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13. Yep, if the press did their jobs, the DNC/Obama campaigns wouldn't need to run ads. nt
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:35 AM
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16. Well SEE? 300 economists “enthusiastically support” McCain's economic plan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, no, that is a lie.....

"On Monday, John McCain’s campaign released a statement signed by 300 economists who “enthusiastically support” his “Jobs for America” economic plan, providing a heavyweight testimonial to the presumptive Republican nominee’s “broad and powerful economic agenda.”

There’s just one problem. Upon closer inspection, it seems a good many of those economists don’t actually support the whole of McCain’s economic agenda. And at least one doesn’t even support McCain for president."

There's not a shred of doubt in my mind that this scandal will dominate the cable news coverage of the campaign to an even greater extent than did coverage of Wesley Clark observing that being a POW is not the same as running the country. After all, the McCain campaign is lying here. And lying about their campaign's macroeconomic policies, which is a very consequential matter. So this is going to be a huge story on teevee, right? Of course it will.
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/demanding_a_recount.php

:rofl:
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:46 AM
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17. McW: Stop whining and marry a multimillionaire heiress
That's MY economic plan
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:48 AM
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18. It's almost like that growth
never trickled down to the vast majority of Americans
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:50 AM
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20. Phil "I went thru the 3rd grade 3 times" Gramm ?
It figures.
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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:51 AM
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21. This is a huge gift to Obama
if he uses it and I PRAY he uses it!!!!! This should be in an ad that runs in every state constantly!!! I would gladly give money to see that happen and I can barely afford the contributions I have given so far!

Is there someone we can e-mail??
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:53 AM
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22. He needs to hit McCain hard on this- TV ads, radio ads, surrogates.
He needs to pound McShit and weaken him.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:55 AM
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23. MSNBC just mentioned
how McCain was distancing himself from Gramm following the remark. The spot was less than 30 seconds before they went into the Christie Brinkley divorce settlement. :eyes:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 11:08 AM
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25. It was on again just now.
Looks like its getting some legs. *fingers crossed*
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 11:07 AM
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24. Phil Gramm is the asscarrot that got us into the economic mess we are in today.
He is the one who got a bill passed that allowed the bundling of those risky home loans. Article from 7/9/08 is on Democracy Now for those who wish to listen to it.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 11:20 AM
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28. I hope that is a debate point. Enron loophole, etc., all his. Then there's Carly.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 11:17 AM
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27. Ah, shades of the "...Americans wouldn't pick lettuce for $50/hour" remark
IMO, both of these statements should be used in one ad illustrating what McCain & Co think about working class people.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:04 PM
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29. what's to whine about? exxonmobil is growing more than other companies are shrinking
so what's the big deal?

:sarcasm:
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 12:56 PM
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32. McCain just threw Phil under the bus
"I strongly disagree with his comments. He does not speak for me, I speak for myself"
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 01:12 PM
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33. Oh
Phil Gramm needs to go fuck himself.

Remember the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000:
http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vb25saW5lam91cm5hbC5jb20vYXJ0bWFuL3B1Ymxpc2gvYXJ0aWNsZV8zNDY3LnNodG1s

Oh yeah......Asshole.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F-LVfcbOxs
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