So long. I doubt I'll be missed.

[Zenmaster]

Well, it was a short run for me.

As I mentioned when I signed up about a month ago, I am supporting Obama this November, but I'm not a Democrat. I'm a registered Independant, with a liberal lean and I'm very excited about Obama (hopefully) becoming the 44th President of the United States.

I really just wanted a good place to talk about support of Obama, with intelligent people that also wanted to support Obama's bid for the presidency. I hadn't been to Democratic underground before, but after I read the stickied post "Welcome to the General Election. So, what does this mean for Democratic Underground?", I believed this would be a good place to come.

But, to put it bluntly, this place pretty much sucks giant horse cocks in regards of supporting Barack Obama and my limited time here has been spent more defending him against attacks from Liberals than it has been engaged in any kind of quality discourse.

So, as quickly as I came, I'm gone.

For those here that also want to see Obama the 44th President, I hope we'll be successfull and if so I'll come back in November for a celebritory post.

Enjoy your summer, everyone, and good-bye.

[democrattotheend]

1. I wish you'd reconsider

We need more committed Obama supporters here to balance out the fair weather friends.

[calimary]

10. Seconded.

We need all our allies. Hope you'll change your mind and stick around. There are still plenty of us who remain solid supporters. He just disappointed me with the FISA vote, but am I gonna bail? Not on your life.

Anyway, if you leave, we hope to see you back again in November - with champagne - or whatever substance with which you celebrate!

:hi: :patriot:

[H2O Man]

75. Third. n/t

[QC]

2. Bye bye! n/t

[Name removed]

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[Connie_Corleone]

3. Sorry to see you leave, but I completely understand.

I thought the tone would change after the primaries. Now, it's worse.

Spend your time volunteering for the campaign.

[blondeatlast]

4. Stay--the haters are losing; that's why they have to shout and dramatize.

I'm here and there's plenty more like you and me. Stick around.

[newmajority]

9. Yep. The haters are slowly dwindling away......

.....but the admins can only cook so many pizzas in a day. :evilgrin:

[LowerManhattanite]

21. The next batch should be pretty tasty I suspect. n/t

[rox63]

28. Mmm...mushroom and onion

:9

[gateley]

5. See you in November for that celebration!

And I hope you find the message board you seek. :pals:

[grantcart]

6. I hope that you will stay and join those of us who share your mature attitude

[jgraz]

43. Running away from dissent is not what I'd call a "mature attitude"

It reminds me more of my 4-year-old niece.

[uppityperson]

48. Insults are more mature? Eom

[grantcart]

52. in the last 24 hours I have been called "coward" "nazi" and "quisling"

this is not dissent or discussion

it is a hysterically charged attack that is often without fact.

Senator Obama made a brief explanation on why he voted for the bill today in his remarks in Virginia (and also explained how the Supreme Court had accepted his brief on whistle blowing in case where he represented a whistle blower).

I look forward to your thread explaining how Senator Obama's assertion that this administration and future administrations will no longer be able to define future questions of national security survelliance questions unilaterally but now will be forced to channel all such questions into FISA courts for prior approval is factually incorrect and that Senator Obama does not know what he is talking about when he speaks about the constitution and FISA courts.

[jgraz]

62. Welcome to DU.

"Right-wing shill", "concern troll", "arrogant fuck"... That's what I get (arrogant fuck is kind of on-target, but still...)

It's just part of the wonderful exercise in democracy known as The Internets.

[high density]

63. It's beyond dissent

It's outrage for the sake of being outraged. And the fact is unless your own personal lawsuit against the telecoms was thrown out because of this law, you are being offended by proxy. That's the dumbest waste of time in the modern world and usually something only the Republicans get caught up in. After everything that has happened in the last 7.5 years, FISA passing the Senate this week is practically a non-issue in comparison. Between now and the time the next president takes office I expect it will have absolutely no impact on my life.

[madwivoter]

69. Dissent is having a difference of opinion

There are a whole lot of people here that claim to be "dissenters" when all they're really doing is stirring up shit ("shit" defined here as unfounded claims with no facts), spewing RW talking points and bashing our nominee.

Lots of posters seem to be intent on posting threads that are anti-Obama, but they can't seem to dig deep enough to find some positive information or rally people to the cause.

The sheer number of "concern" posts here over the last couple of weeks has really turned me off. Not enough to push me out the door, but you can't really blame someone for feeling the need to take a break.

[azmouse]

7. The haters are in their last throes....

Sorry, couldn't resist. :hide:

Stick around. Things change quickly here.

[Redstone]

8. Well, since you can't spell "independent," I won't miss you. Besides, "sucking giant horse cocks"

isn't really the kind of discourse I value, so that won't be missed either.

Actually, you CAN let the door hit you on the ass on your way out.

Redstone

[Abacus]

16. ?

"sucking giant horse cocks" "isn't really the kind of discourse I value" "you CAN let the door hit you on the ass on your way out."

[Redstone]

18. There's a big difference in scale of vulgarity right there. In case you didn't notice.

Besides which, DU is a "big tent" kind of place, remember? If someone likes sucking giant horse cocks, and the horse is a consenting adult horse as a suckee, and the sucker is a consenting adult (horse or non-horse) as well, I as an individual, and I suspect DU as a group (being, as I said, an inclusive "big tent;" large enough for even the odd equine or two), don't discriminate against either the sucker or the suckee, as long as they're stalwart in support of the Democratic party, though such support may be difficult for the horse to elucidate in any medium, and particularly through posting on an online forum.

It's the hooves, you know. Nobody seems to manufacture a keyboard with keys large enough, nor sturdy enough, to accommodate them.

Redstone

[newmajority]

26. I hear there's a farm in Enumclaw WA that caters to such interests

Though I'm not sure how the horses give consent. Maybe they stomp their hooves once for yes, twice for no?

Unless they only hire the talking "Mr Ed" type of horses. Not sure which particular breed that was, but I'd guess they're fairly rare.

[Redstone]

31. Ah, but the rarity adds to the value of the experience, doesn't it?

Redstone

[newmajority]

34. Well, I'm not into equestriasexuality myself, but

...whatever Mr. Ed and Wilbur Post do in the privacy of their own barn is their business.

[Redstone]

38. Yep, as long as they vote (or at least Wilbur votes) Democratic, they're OK by me.

Just as long as they keep those barn doors closed.

Redstone

[newmajority]

39. Mr. Ed should be able to vote

If a horse is smart enough to talk, he's smart enough to vote. Probably smarter than Freepers.

And since horses are distant cousins of donkeys, they're more than likely Democrats. :kick:

Only problem would be how to fill out a ballot......

[Redstone]

47. Well, then, let's mount a campaign for voting machines with hoof-size buttons;

or at least ones that accept head-nodding or hoof-stamping input.

I got $10 that says if you took the time to "raise this as an issue" on the Internet, there'd be at least one damfool who would take it seriously and send out an indignant Press Release or Call To Action, though whether that release or call would be pro- or anti-hooved brethren, I couldn't predict.

"NO MORE DISCRIMINATION ANGAINST THE FINGER-CHALLENGED! MONO-CHITINOUS END-OF-LIMB GROWTH RIGHTS, NOW!

Christ, I'm tired today. Can you tell?

Redstone

[AngryAmish]

96. Clever Hans?

[ZombieHorde]

50. big difference in scale of vulgarity right there

I don't see a difference.

[Redstone]

55. God, I love being given the opportunity to type this kind of stuff again:

Hey, if you equate accusing an entire community of "sucking giant horse cocks" with an expression of not caring if one individual (the same one who has accused a community of which I am a member, and therefore by inference me as an individual, as someone who "sucks giant horse cocks") lets a door hit him in the ass on his way out of the same community (which, if his assertion is correct, makes him a "giant horse-cock sucker" as well, just by his association with the community, no matter how brief that association may have been. Did he ever consider that?). (Hey, if you know we liked to suck giant horse cocks, you didn't need to sign up to be a DU member, if sucking giant horse cocks is not an activity that you enjoy.)

Q.E.D.

And thank you again for providing me the opportunity to type so many variants of the phrase "suck giant horse cocks" once again. I don't get many chances to do so, and it's kind of refreshing. Liberating, actually.

Redstone

[ZombieHorde]

57. Have you ever seen the movie "Emmanuelle in America"?

If you love to type; "suck giant horse cocks", then you may enjoy that film.

equate accusing an entire community...lets a door hit him in the ass on his way out of the same community

Both statements are just pointless jabs (which I may do myself if I am sleepy and grumpy).

[Redstone]

61. I'll see your sleepy and grumpy and raise you one, because I'm dopey as well.

It's the warm weather, and the end of a day working in the Sumer Office (the screen porch).

Redstone

[ZombieHorde]

66. I'll get dopey later.

:evilgrin:

[LanternWaste]

64. You are without a doubt one of the

"and the horse is a consenting adult horse as a suckee, and the sucker is a consenting adult..."


You are, without a doubt one of the oddest people I've ever had any kind of contact with. And I mean that in a good, back-slapping, "here-have-a-beer" kind of way. :toast:

Jesus! Just when I think it's safe to go back into the water, there's Redstone talking about consensual oral sex between horses... never seems to fail. :eyes:

[Bake]

71. Oooooh, Redstone, you said ASS!

:spank:

Shaaaaaaaaame on you. And stay away from the horses!!

:rofl:

Bake

[Bake]

70. And a big A-MEN, Redstone!!

Fuckin' A!

Bake

[Maddy McCall]

79. I second this.

:yourock: Mr. R.

[LostinVA]

80. Yup, that struck me too

ie the unnecessary vulgarity -- and I'm someone that doesn't mind GOOD vulgarity!

[Mudoria]

100. Hehe

:thumbsup:

[DrCory]

11. What A Shame...

"But, to put it bluntly, this place pretty much sucks giant horse cocks..."

If this is an example of the intelligent discourse you have to offer, your absence will not be mourned.

[CakeGrrl]

60. I myself prefer the OP's blunt language

to hearing Obama supporters STILL being referred to as "Kool-Aid drinkers", and now "quislings" on a site that's supposedly about SUPPORTING the Democratic Nominee.

Whether the "Big Tent", as someone referred to it, allows for insults to be leveled at those who actively support the Democratic Nominee remains to be seen.

[davidpdx]

101. Well and on that part I can agree with the op

I think the OP went over the top by using the profane comment, which pissed people off. Just tonight I had to use the report button because someone was spouting the O-bot crap again.

[Name removed]

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[Bluerthanblue]

13. well..... your graphic image has got me

feeling a bit nauseous to be honest, but I'm sorry you aren't up to sticking around. I can understand how you feel,
and admit that walking away sounds pretty good to me too much of the time-

Hope you'll come back if you change your mind, or get some new enthusiasm.

We're going to win this Nov. Failure is not an option. It hasn't been easy, and it probably won't be easy even when Obama's in the house, but I don't doubt it will all be worth it.

I wish you well-

:hi:
peace~

[reflection]

14. I'm sorry, but that paragraph about, er

giant horse thingies made me spit coffee down the front of my shirt. And I usually don't go for the vulgarity like that.

[Bonobo]

15. Agreed. Skinner, et al better kick the trolls off or they will lose lots of others too.

This place sucks donkey dong.

[Egnever]

19. Bah suck it up Bonobo

We need you here

[MellowOne]

17. I so agree with you!

But unfortunately even so-called Dems are dividing the party with such childish attacks against the party's candidate that they should be defending. We might as well agree to four more years of Bush, I mean McCain.

[Marrah_G]

20. I suggest you try the Obama campaign site

No seriously, if you just want a place to talk about Obama and what you can do to support him, that is the place.

I spent all my time in 2004 on the Kerry blog and the Kerry IRC chat.

DU is made up with many different people, from many walks of life, with many different views.

[KAZ]

22. Come on. Hang around. Things will get better.

[annabanana]

23. (most of it is oppo stuff you know)

There are cadres of paid disruptors that wash through this place periodically.... If you stay longer you'll know who they are and ignore them.

[DrDan]

24. I agree with you

How dare anyone criticize the curtailing of constitutional freedoms and liberties.

How dare anyone suggest women should have the full right to choose and decide for themselves.

How dare anyone suggest a separation between church and state.

Anyone daring to do should be cast aside, shunned and flogged in public.

[rateyes]

25. See you in November. nt

[LWolf]

27. "sucks giant horse cocks"

:rofl:

I came to DU, late in '02, to get away from Bush lovers and apologizers. I came, not for partisan purposes, or because of campaigns, but for issues. I've often been frustrated when issues are "thrown under the bus" in favor of campaigns; after all, there is a new campaign season every 2 years. If all we ever do is campaign for the next election, issues NEVER get addressed.

I'm still here for issues.

If you ever want to talk about issues, come on back. Meanwhile, I'm sure there is some group out there that will talk about nothing but how to elect Obama. His website, I'm sure. Possibly some yahoo groups, etc.?

Or, you could just click on threads that deal with your purpose, and leave the rest.

I hope you find what you are looking for.

[DevonRex]

29. Please don't go. We are going to take this forum BACK. nt

[Bake]

73. Take it back? TAKE IT BACK?

"WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS FORUM BACK!"

Hear that, Skinner? Apparently you don't own this place anymore, and you don't get to make the rules. Because an anonymous poster says so.

Bake

[SidneyCarton]

30. Sorry to see you go Zen (all references to horse anatomy aside)

hope to see you back when the madness is over.

[TahitiNut]

32. Buh-bye!

As a life-long independent liberal who's 99% certain to vote for Obama - who voted for Kucinich - I support your right to leave.

If you need an even more 'protected' place than DU, I doubt you're fit to go out in public without assistance. :nopity:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

40. !

:spray:

I was empathizing until I read your last line and spit coffee all over my cat... she is not appreciative, and I will pay the price :mad:

[davidpdx]

99. Did you really spit coffee on your cat?

Man I hope the cat mauls you in your sleep tonight. LOL If I were you, I'd sleep with one eye open.

[Debi]

33. After 30 days and less than 100 posts? n/t

[LostinVA]

81. Where the hell have YOU been?!

[Debi]

90. Facebook - I'm addicted - I can't get enough and I am now neglecting my DU duties

Heh heh I said 'dutie' I should go Facebook that x(

I miss you though! :hug:

[npincus]

35. I miss you already!

[TahitiNut]

46. You need to improve your aim, then.

:dunce:

[thoughtcrime1984]

37. I hear ya

There are many here that would rather lose the Presidency based on a couple of issues, than win by whatever means our candidate deems necessary. This "purity" leads to Republicans in office damn near perpetually. And we liberals are supposed to be the smart ones. I'll continue to work to get our nominee elected, as I trust he'll be far better than the alternative.

[On the Road]

41. Try Again After the Furor Has Gone Down

I've been here since early 2001, and this place goes through many phases. I sincerely doubt this is what the board will be like later in the campaign.

This particular issue has struck some kind of nerve. But on many issues, the screamers come out first, followed eventually by the voices of reason.

I don't blame you for your reaction -- it's mighty hard to maintain equilibrium in this kind of chaos. But the good news is that it's not permanent.

[olkaz]

42. Wow, seriously, are we supposed to care?

You make a good point, but, honestly, just leave. I f'ing HATE uberdramatic "OMG U GUYZ IM LEAVIN" posts.

Bye.

[jgraz]

44. Wait, I care. I was really looking forward to his next 91 posts.

I had a feeling they were going to be real barnburners.

:eyes:

[jgraz]

45. I'll have more to say once I get this horse cock out of my mouth.

[Redstone]

51. Oh, good God, that was SO funny! I really, REALLY wish I had posted what you did, because

it was fucking PERFECT. Concise, to the point, and utterly hilarious.

That's one more beer I owe you, if we ever meet, for giving me that great laugh.

Redstone

[Raster]

53. You are BAD!!!

:rofl:

[newmajority]

54. Better do that before the barn burns down!

Fire tends to freak horses out a little, and the results might be tragic.

[Lilith Velkor]

58. All this time I thought it was a bong

Boy, is my face red.

[waiting for hope]

59. That should earn you a DUzy without a doubt!

:rofl:

[Flying Dream Blues]

88. OMG, glad I didn't have anything in MY mouth! hahahaha nt

[DevonRex]

91. OMG, that was hillarious. I've come back here a few times just

to make myself laugh. Thanks.

[racaulk]

98. DUzy!!!

Now THAT was funny!

:rofl:

[Stephanie]

49. I doubt it too.

[Redstone]

56. Gee, I thought Masters of Zen had more patience and fortitude than that.

I guess I was wrong.

Redstone

[QC]

68. No one's patience and fortitude are any match for a big horse cock. n/t

[LostinVA]

82. Maybe his zafu broke

[slackmaster]

65. If you really are a Zen master you should just be your exit

Rather than whining about it.

[Marrah_G]

67. Dammit Slack

That made me choke on my coffee.

[dionysus]

72. relax, the professional griefers' days are numbered...

[Bake]

74. You're right. You won't.

:hi:

Bake

[Romulox]

76. Center/Right Underground is thataway --------------> nt

[GoldieAZ49]

77. So, I take it your not a giant horse

and can not get even a lick in edgewise

bye :hi:

FYI it isn't a horse :kick:

[anonymous171]

78. lol horse cocks.

[LostinVA]

83. Someone's been watching some REALLY bad European porn

[Occam Bandage]

87. Or really good.

[truthisfreedom]

84. I understand.

It bothers me too. It feels like we've been invaded by freeper disruptors.

[Occam Bandage]

85. I appreciate what you're doing, but I don't like when people make socks to make points.

I'm not gonna link to your actual name or anything, but please take this down.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

92. Ohhhhh ... just the SOCK PUPPET is leaving??

I think the mods should escort the Puppeteer to the door, as well, since socks are expressly against the rules.

[ileus]

86. you must read a different forum than I....this is Obama Central

[Name removed]

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[Raine]

93. I'm sorry you're leaving but I understand...

because I have been spending lots less time here myself lately for the very same reason. I used to be here every day several times a day but sometimes days go by before I check in. I thought it was bad here during the primaries but that was at least understandable. Things are as bad if not worse since they ended, it's very frustrating. Check back in now and then and maybe things will get better, that's what I'm going to do especially around the time of the convention.

[JoFerret]

94. Join the party.

.

[sniffa]

95. KTHNXBAI

[kentuck]

97. The Few...the Proud...The DUers....

that have been here for years and have the courage to fight thru the small squabbles such as the last few days. I'm sorry you were not able to sustain...