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Fri Jul-11-08 01:28 AM
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I'm leaning toward Biden for VP |
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though I'd be pleased with Dodd as well. I have heard both are considerations.
Since Webb is no longer a consideration, Biden has years of foreign policy experience and comes across knowledgeable and intelligent on those issues. He could debate anyone the repukes have to offer on those issues.
Once in a while he puts his foot in his mouth and makes stupid comments. That's the downside I think. Also don't get me started on the bankruptcy bill.
Otherwise, if Obama goes with a woman, I'm leaning toward Hillary.
I like Kerry, but that would just be odd. I don't think it will happen. San Nunn is waaay to conservative and I don't want a homophobic creep as VP. Evan Bayh is wayyyy too boring. Dodd is another interesting possibility.
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Fri Jul-11-08 01:32 AM
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Biden and Dodd were my top 2 for pres so I'd like them as VP except |
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I might rather see Biden as Sec of State and Dodd as Majority Leader.
On the other hand, having just listened to the Judiciary oversight hearing video, on top of the SFRC Iran hearing, Biden knows a tremendous amount about foreign affairs and the legal system, which are the two things BushCo have trashed the most.
Of course that's why I thought Biden / Obama would have been a great ticket.
Biden's age may work against him as a VP pick - though I think he'll be in far better shape in 8 years than McCain is now.
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Fri Jul-11-08 01:38 AM
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3. I'm with you in preferring Biden as SOS and Dodd as Leader. |
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And it's the strengths you mentioned about Biden's vast understanding of FP that make me feel he'd be invaluable in that slot (SOS).
However, he's more than qualified for VP if Obama's team feels he can help the ticket.
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:03 PM
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17. I would LOVE to see Dodd as Majority Leader. |
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He would get things done and wouldn't keep playing these stupid, wimpy political games.
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Fri Jul-11-08 01:32 AM
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1. Do you think we'll need shoring up in Delaware? (nt) |
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Edited on Fri Jul-11-08 01:33 AM by w4rma
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Muttocracy
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Fri Jul-11-08 01:33 AM
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2. He's a white Catholic guy born in Scranton; hasn't Obama's campaign said geography is not a big deal |
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see Clinton-Gore, Bush-Cheney.
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gateley
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Fri Jul-11-08 01:40 AM
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4. I've heard that isn't that big a consideration these days as it was |
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before mass/instantaneous communication and coverage.
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Fri Jul-11-08 01:41 AM
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5. I'd like Biden as veep just cuz he could run in 8 years and I want him to be president |
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and help Obama govern... 16 years of Joe callin the shots!
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:03 PM
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19. I like the way you think, Think! |
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:01 AM
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6. Biden is great, but... |
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there are a few things against him: his age, and that whole plagiarism thing from before. While Biden is one of our best Senators, his age could nullify the unspoken argument against McCain's own advanced age. In this sense, a younger VP would be in Obama's interest, and would better support an agenda of change. Also, Biden's plagiarism flap from his previous presidential run would get McCain and friends going on about how both men on the Dem ticket are plagiarizers. I personally think Biden is a sharp guy, and I wouldn't be unhappy if he was chosen, I'm just not sure if he's the best choice. Chris Dodd, Brian Schweitzer, and maybe even Clinton could be better strategically.
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:13 AM
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8. If it's the age thing, |
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Dodd isn't all that nubile, either. (He's two years younger than Biden - I just looked it up.)
I'd be really happy with Schweitzer -- and his age is yet another reason why I think he'd be an excellent choice.
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:09 PM
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20. Schweitzer would be a good choice. |
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Sort of a man's man type of guy -- men & women both like him. A straight shooter.
I first heard of him when he said this:
"Maybe it's something in the water in Washington, or maybe it's all the expensive whiskey the lobbyists are paying for. I have a 72-hour rule. If I stay in Washington for more than 72 hours, I have to bathe myself in the same stuff I use when one of my dogs gets into a fight with a skunk — stuff to get the smell out."
:rofl:
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:11 AM
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7. No No No No No to any Democratic Senators for VP. |
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The Senate is our current achilles heel. We currently don't have enough votes to override a filibuster. And why would we give up the seniority of Dodd or Biden to executive branch when they could be replaced and/or appointed by a monstrous candidate. Hello, Connecticut.
We need to secure the senate even more than we need to topple the executive branch which I believe is a given. Obama's choice for the cherry on the cake should not subtract any enlightened members to his cabinet. Fuck the South as far as the VP position is concerned.
Former senator Bob Graham makes the most sense to me.
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:48 AM
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9. The VP needs to be able to have a significant impact on OH, IN PA VA |
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region
Obama out performs every other region but needs someone to get him a firm 5 points more in those states. If we even split them we win - if we take 3 or 4 it will be a landslide.
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:23 PM
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11. He will help with PA. He spent alot of time there growing up. |
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:25 PM
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13. Didn't Obama say himself he won't pick a candidate based on how they help in a specific region? |
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:50 PM
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14. Who do you think could help him in those areas? nt |
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:22 PM
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10. Not only is Biden an expert in foreign Affairs |
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He is also a champion on women's rights: civil rights; and has one of the highest ratings on environmental issues. http://www.newhampshirefreepress.com/NHFreePress/?q=node/172http://biden.senate.gov/press/press_releases/release/?id=17F6B98F-5245-4B85-A3F7-AC43F67D8395Rated 95% by the LCV, indicating pro-environment votes. http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Joe_Biden_Environment.htmPlus, no one will be able to take down McCain like Joe. Maybe he will describe Mclame as "a noun, a verb, and more war" :)
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:51 PM
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15. "A noun, a verb, and more war" |
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:rofl:
Send him that line, P -- it's brilliant!!
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:01 PM
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16. Knowing Joe, I bet he will come up with something even better for InSane. |
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:12 PM
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21. Biden is *NOT* an expert on foreign affairs |
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First off, he voted for the IWR. If he was such an expert, he would have known what impact invading Iraq would have. I don't consider myself an expert, and everything that I expected to happen has happened. If I could see the problems of an invasion, surely a foreign policy "expert" like Biden would as well. I was also really bothered by his statement to Khaddafi a few years back about George Washington being voted out of office (he was commenting about Khaddafi's claim of being president for life). I'm sorry, but a US Senator should have at least a rudimentary knowledge of George Washington, especially one with aspirations of being president. Washington voluntarily stepped down after his second term, and if he chose to run again, he would have very likely easily won re-election. I don't trust anyone who makes up historical "facts" simply to try and score political points.
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:27 PM
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Biden warned that if we invaded we would be committing to Iraq in some capacity for a decade at least. He also said we would need more troops to secure the country. He also proposed an amendment that would require Bush to let the UN try to put inspectors in and also sign off on a possible invasion (which was six months away) but the amendment was struck down in congress.
Biden also anticipated the chaos in Pakistan before the killing of benazir bhutto happened.
I don't know what the exact wording on Khaddafi you are talking about, but it seems biden knows that Washington stepped down and was rebuking Khaddafi for not voluntarily stepping down. He might not of worded it correctly but Biden was a history major and certainly knows Washington stepped down.
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Fri Jul-11-08 02:24 PM
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12. I really think Biden, Dodd or Kerry would be safe picks. |
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Fri Jul-11-08 03:04 PM
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18. The problem with both Biden and Dodd is that they both accepted Public Funding for the primaries. |
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That in itself is okay, but with Obama declining Pubic Funding for both the primaries and now the general election it wouldn't look good.
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:22 PM
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22. I think Biden will be in the top 4, with Sebelius, Schweitzer, and Richardson//// |
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All four would potentially help the ticket. Bayh and Kaine would also work but not be the best choices.
In the long run, I hope it will be Sebelius.
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Fri Jul-11-08 10:26 PM
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23. Joe really doesn't want it |
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To paraphase what he has said. I got to congress at 29. I've never had a boss in my life. I don't think I want one now or would enjoy it.
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Fri Jul-11-08 11:10 PM
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25. Are you running for president? |
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