mix
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:19 PM
Original message |
TwilightGardener
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:21 PM
Response to Original message |
1. It won't--of those two, it'll be Reed. Hagel might be a SecDef or SecState pick, though. |
mix
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
5. a cabinet position i could stomach |
Inuca
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
21. I remember you mentioned Reed recently |
|
you may have picked the winning ticket after all :-).
|
TwilightGardener
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #21 |
22. Yep--I've been saying Reed for months, actually. My political instincts ROCK!! |
PBS Poll-435
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
jenmito
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:21 PM
Response to Original message |
Lebam in LA
(717 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:21 PM
Response to Original message |
3. Obama would lose my vote |
|
I am afraid I would have to sit out the election.
|
aint_no_life_nowhere
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:22 PM
Response to Original message |
4. Isn't Hagel hated by Republicans the way Dems hate Lieberman? |
|
I'm not sure how Independents see him, though.
|
jenmito
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #4 |
7. Yes-and both due to their positions on the war. He won't be Obama's VP. |
aint_no_life_nowhere
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #7 |
13. If the idea is to siphon off a few Republican votes in red states |
|
I don't think it will work. Nor will Hagel encourage more Democrats to come out and vote. If Obama wants to go after independents, he'd probably be better advised to go after a moderate Democrat.
|
jenmito
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #13 |
15. There's no way he's going to pick Hagel for VP. The ONLY thing they agree on is the way the war. |
newmajority
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #4 |
20. Lieberman might have won his last election the sleaziest way possible |
|
But at least he did win it. Nobody's really sure if Hagel was actually elected, because his own electro-fraud machines did the counting.
(And for the record, switching parties after a primary loss should be just as illegal as electro-fraud machines)
|
TwilightGardener
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:23 PM
Response to Original message |
6. By the way, according to Ruth Marcus, it was HILLARY CLINTON who seriously considered Hagel for VP. |
Mass
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:27 PM
Response to Original message |
8. Neither one. Hagel would anger too many Democrats and Reed is RI senator which means we would lose |
|
his seat to a Republican.
|
TwilightGardener
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #8 |
9. Why--do they have a Repub Governor? Did Jack Reed even endorse Obama yet? |
Mass
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #9 |
11. Yes, they do which is why Reed is unlikely. |
|
Edited on Fri Jul-11-08 06:31 PM by Mass
|
TwilightGardener
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #11 |
4themind
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:28 PM
Response to Original message |
10. Well it says it will fuel speculation |
|
Edited on Fri Jul-11-08 06:30 PM by 4themind
and there's no doubt about that, here(as we see) and elsewhere. I'm not too worried because I don't think it's likely to happen. I also don't think lieberman will be V.P.(for McCain) for similar reasons it'll just destroy his standing with his base. Even as a purely political maneuver, much less a philosophical one, he gains little from it. I'd sooner worry about him shooting himself in his own foot, literally
|
Ichingcarpenter
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
16. It also stirs up shit by a Republican slanted Reporter |
Ichingcarpenter
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:40 PM
Response to Original message |
14. This is just stirring up crap by CNN's neo-cons Ed Henry- not gonna happen |
|
Media Matters on Ed Henry CNN's Ed Henry left out key facts in report on Cornyn comments on judges http://mediamatters.org/items/200504060007CNN's Ed Henry selectively edited video to misleadingly suggest Lieberman supported provision he opposed regarding FEMA director http://mediamatters.org/items/200509150005Ed Henry supports George Bush http://www.counterbias.com/309.html
|
Blue_In_AK
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 06:58 PM
Response to Original message |
17. I believe my head would explode. n/t |
Ichingcarpenter
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #17 |
18. Notice the reporter's slant on the piece |
|
I documented his republican leanings up-thread and he also doctored a tape to make a right wing point on one of his reports.
|
JoFerret
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 07:10 PM
Response to Original message |
|
We don't need the election machines that much.
|
Rowdyboy
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 11:26 PM
Response to Original message |
24. I would vote Obama/Hagel but I would be VERY pissed.... |
|
No other support but I would give my vote.
|
Douglas Carpenter
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Fri Jul-11-08 11:34 PM
Response to Original message |
25. Sen. Hagel is an anti-neocon Republican - he absolutely loathes those evil bastards |
|
He is however also a traditional Reaganite Republican on most other issues.
What I do see good about him is that he does have the foreign background and the foreign policy credibility to stand up against the Neocons and if he did have a prominent position in the Obama Administration, he would be a strong voice of reason on what I believe is the single most important issue; preventing any more imperial wars in the Middle East. He is also someone who understands at least the Machiavellian necessity of working aggressively for peace in the Middle East.
Having sad that, I repeat, he is on almost every domestic issue a traditional Reaganite Republican.
|
DU
AdBot (1000+ posts) |
Thu Apr 25th 2024, 08:31 PM
Response to Original message |