CK_John
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:32 AM
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IMO, Obama has only two choices for VP, within the party or outside the party. If the market |
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meltdown happens before the convention he will have to pick a Mr Fixit with Wall Street savvy, ie Mayor of NY,Bloomberg. (I think hobo freight will be the only transportation to Denver in Aug.)
If the airlines and the banks are operating during the convention he will need a united front to win in Nov, ie Hillary with Bill replacing her in the Senate to keep him busy and out of the way.
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:34 AM
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:36 AM
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Nice to run into you! :hi:
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:38 AM
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My lunch isn't looking so good at the moment.
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:39 AM
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Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 10:40 AM by Jake3463
I don't know if he'd like that very much. If he wasn't over 60 and had heart problems in the past the Supreme Court would be a good place to keep him busy that is of course assuming we have 60 democratic senators in January.
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:45 AM
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:52 AM
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6. NO - he can't pick a VP from "outside the party" |
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I challenge you to name one candidate from either party who has ever done that. It just doesn't work that way.
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Sat Jul-12-08 10:58 AM
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7. Yes he can and today and tomorrow is what counts. |
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Sat Jul-12-08 11:03 AM
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8. So who has done that? pick from outside the party |
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he is not Spiderman, the laws of reality apply to Obama.
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Sun Jul-13-08 01:51 AM
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10. No, he'd have to form a new party... |
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The only way Lincoln got Johnson on the ticket was by forming the "Union" party and having them both run under that ticket.
Obama would have to create a whole new party before choosing a VP who isn't a Democrat - and that's just not going to happen.
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Sun Jul-13-08 05:38 AM
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13. I will never vote for a Republican for any office. Period. |
CK_John
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Sun Jul-13-08 10:36 AM
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15. Bloomberg is now and Ind, was a lifelong Dem who switched to Rep to run for NYC Mayor or do you |
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think Clinton is a Rep? Just wondering who you think is a Rep? Also NY has tradition of cross endorsing candidates, especially upstate.
Also at the convention the delegates can nominate anybody who gets enough votes to win and the candidate pledges to support the party platform. (Which nobody ever pays any attention to after the convention).
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Sun Jul-13-08 07:21 AM
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14. Legally, probably; politically, it'll never happen |
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And you never answered the question as to which candidate has named a VP from outside his own party.
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Sun Jul-13-08 01:40 PM
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17. Abraham Lincoln in 1864 and William Henry Harrison in 1840 |
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Ironically both of their VP's wound up taking office.
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Faygo Kid
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Sun Jul-13-08 02:30 PM
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21. And both Andrew Johnson and John Tyler were unmitigated disasters. |
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Two of the worst presidents in history. There's a lesson here.
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Sun Jul-13-08 03:02 PM
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23. Andrew Johnson was a disaster, John Tyler's problems were beyond his control |
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He had no support from either political party. If Tyler had had a chance to actually govern he could have done a good job.
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Faygo Kid
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Sun Jul-13-08 03:53 PM
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24. Have you read "What Hath God Wrought" yet? |
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This year's Pulitzer Prize for History recipient. Down to the last couple dozen pages, and Tyler is prominent. He was pro-slavery and anti-internal improvements; what the Whigs were thinking is beyond the scope of this post.
He was also later a traitor, serving in the Confederate Congress (provisional), before his death in 1862.
As for Andrew Johnson, he and Nixon were in my opinion the two worst presidents ever, until George W. Bush came along and made both look like pikers.
Got to give Tyler credit for two things: He defined the vice presidency as the heir to the full powers of the presidency. And, he fathered 15 children. That's a record for presidents that will never be beaten.
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Sun Jul-13-08 12:53 AM
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9. Bill is already busy with his foundation. |
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He doesn't need another job to keep him out the way.
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Sun Jul-13-08 01:59 AM
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11. I think a billionaire businesman might be seen more |
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as the cause of our problems, rather than the solution to them.
It won't be Bloomberg.
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Sun Jul-13-08 11:02 AM
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16. C Kennedy is a powerful ally for Bloomberg (her mentor). n/t |
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Sun Jul-13-08 04:26 AM
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12. Bill in the Senate is not a bad idea, but I doubt he'd take it. |
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Sun Jul-13-08 01:48 PM
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18. And you are...? Such a pronouncement from on high. |
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Or, maybe from not so on high, since it sure looks like bullshit reasoning to me.
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Sun Jul-13-08 02:01 PM
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19. that is slightly less likely than Sen. Obama picking Johnny Depp |
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It is simply not going to happen
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Sun Jul-13-08 02:22 PM
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20. no republicans on the ticket unless he wants to absolutely lose the WH |
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Sun Jul-13-08 02:31 PM
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22. Hillary or Bloomberg our only choices? Projectile hurling alert. |
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Sun Jul-13-08 04:23 PM
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25. If the economy is the issue, Hillary is the pick |
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although I think there are others who are better from Bill's admin like Rubin. The thing people are most nostalgic for is the economy we enjoyed under Bill Clinton.
That's what the working poor were for Hillary.
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