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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:29 PM
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Hagel for VP? Seriously?
Ah, I'm going to have to go ahead and say no thanks.

Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.html

Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.

http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php

Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's vice-presidential candidates.

http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm




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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:30 PM
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1. no way it's gonna happen.
.....right?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:30 PM
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2. No, no, and no. He just voted against the Medicare bill, fer chrissakes.
Glad he's right about the war, but he's wrong about most everything else.
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:34 PM
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3. We don't want ANY (R)VP
The reason should be obvious.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:45 PM
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4. Hagel ain't going to be VP. The idea is being floated by the Obama campaign to show him as open.
Which the middle will love.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:46 PM
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5. If Hagel was VP for Bush, impeachment would have already begun.
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madura Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:50 PM
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6. very poor choice. what are people thinking!?
the election fraud connection that you mentioned, and the fact that if gawd forbid anything happens to O, he's the president - another republican
NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER, please, NEVER
this is taking hte across the aisle stuff way beyond common sense.

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:51 PM
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7. Yahtzee!
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:54 PM
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8. Hope not!
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 01:56 PM
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9. He will be Secretary of Defense.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 03:15 PM
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10. No!
Won't happen.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 04:17 PM
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11. The more I think of it... Hagel for Sec of State or Sec of Defense would be much better

He'd be VERY well-suited for those roles, and his social conservativism would have no bearing whatsoever on his duties in those roles.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 04:27 PM
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12. I see Obama picking a VP that's closely aligned with his values and morals.
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 04:31 PM by AZBlue
Not one that necessarily agrees with him on every issue or has the same political strengths as he does - but these are very different things. I think he'll look for someone that he can "agree to disagree with" and who he can respect no matter how much their opinions vary. I also think he'll look for someone with a different background than him - quite possibly a military background which Hagel has, but so do others that would make a better match for Obama.

As someone upthread pointed out, it's a good unifying move to consider him - and I don't think it's just posing, I think Obama genuinely did want to put any possible Republicans on the list. I'm all for ending the polarizing party lines that have been drawn - but as you pointed out, we don't want to go TOO far with that. There's uniting the country and there's being stupid - and I think choosing Hagel would be the second. And that's why I doubt Obama would actually select him. He may wind up in the Obama administration though.

:hi:

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:42 PM
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17. I'm much more receptive to him being involved in some other way
in Obama's administration, but not for putting him a heartbeat away from the presidency. That's something bad waiting to happen Obama can do without.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:24 PM
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13. I can't believe some of the idiots on THIS board would be OK with that bigot asshole as VP
:grr: :nuke:
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:25 PM
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14. Wish I could recommend your post.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:39 PM
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16. he's symbolic of the realignment of parties but that's as close as I want him
His trip with Obama to Iraq is a slap in the face to McBush and, of course, I'm all for that ;), but putting him in a heartbeat from the presidency is just nuts.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-08 06:25 PM
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15. 15 posts and our resident Hagel shill hasn't chimed in yet?
Edited on Sat Jul-12-08 06:26 PM by newmajority
She must be on her break. Oh wait... it's after 5 in Nebraska. Maybe she's done for the day?
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