What is your opinion of the latest New Yorker cover?

[Bicoastal]

This is sure to be a major point of controversy here over the next couple days...

...but it would be interesting to find the most inflammatory New Yorker cover depicting George and Laura Bush, and compare it to this one...

[Sanity Claws]

1. Hey - you should be busy responding to your thread

I'm damn angry about this cover.
But I want to know, are you a playwright?

[Bicoastal]

2. yes. But let's leave it in the Lounge, shall we?

[rzemanfl]

3. This will shoot holes in the argument that Obama is a latte

drinking liberal elitist. It serves the same purpose as Jackson's "nuts off" comment. Another "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" move on the chessboard for the benefit of low information voters.

[NattPang]

4. Where is the choice,

"I am a Hillary supporters,
so I think it is damn funny! LOL!"? :eyes:

[styersc]

5. The cover makes fun of Hannity types who are spewing stupidity.

The campaign should have copies blown up as posters in the office.

[Bicoastal]

6. My personal take is that it was a good idea executed sloppily.

The magazine deserves the criticism they're about to get

[defendandprotect]

12. And what in the picture gives us a clue to that . . . !!???!!

I've never in my life watched Hannity ---

[RichardRay]

7. Laughing!!

I'm looking for a high quality image of the cover online that I can print on a good color printer so I can put the cartoon in the window of my car next to the big Obama 08 sign.

I showed it to a Wyoming cowboy who is a dependable red state Republican - he practically swallowed his chaw laughing and allowed that the cartoon pretty much summed up the stupid things people are saying about Barack (he's voting Democratic for the first time in his life in this election).

[Goblinmonger]

35. No way

I thought the people in red states, sorry "Low information voters," were too stupid to get that it was satire. I've heard that only people on DU will "get it."

[BlooInBloo]

8. God I love the "it's just a joke"ers. Their numbers faithfully depict America.

[Rabrrrrrr]

9. I think it's wonderful, and I think too many people are wound up too goddamned tightly

Loosen up, folks.

[liberalmuse]

10. I think their next cover should be...

a satire of a satire, with Cindy McCain as Miss Scott, and yours truly as Bucky riding a rocket headed towards Iran.

On edit: Only that wouldn't be satire, would it?

[defendandprotect]

13. Love it!! ....

who's Miss Scott?

[defendandprotect]

11. This is blatant racism . .. how could anyone "understand what the artist is doing" . . . PLEASE . .

explain what you mean . . . ????


Meanwhile, where's the cover of Bush/Cheney sitting in the Oval Office with their chemical set

blowing up the Wall Trade Center Towers --- and most of the world????

Maybe there'd also be room to show the 80,000 people we've TORTURED in our prisons ---

and some coffins!!!???!!!

[Bicoastal]

15. The artist was depicting a satirical look at how paranoid ignorant conservatives see the Obamas.

He said so himself, and given that this was the cover of the friggin' NEW YORKER, I tend to believe him.

But your point about the absence of a Bush-themed cover like this is a valid one.

[defendandprotect]

30. Presume we're discussing the 7/21 cover . . . ???

The "satire" has failed because it simply REPEATS the right-wing attacks ...

There's no payback to the GOP here . . .

In fact, it advances their attacks ---

[Goblinmonger]

36. The title of the cover

is "politics of fear." Does that help you out any?

[defendandprotect]

38. That's a lot better . . .

How big is the print?

[hedgehog]

16. Will these do?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3613977&mesg_id=3613977

Not to mention:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/13/barry-blitt-addresses-his_n_112432.html


Late-breaking edit: the best cache yet!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6496158

[Bicoastal]

18. I think I understand something basic about this whole thing:

...the New Yorker mag is by-and-large a liberal publication, so they're preaching to the choir when they criticize Bush on the cover. I suppose they thought their most recent cover would be understood as Pro-Obama satire...

...and I think perhaps they need to realize that people outside of Manhattan are going to see this thing and wonder what in blue blazes is going on. Like I've said before, they've finally become too hip for the room--but that's only because the room got bigger.

[defendandprotect]

31. No --- No --- !!!

I'd need a cover with Cheney/Bush blowing up the WTC . . .

I need a cover with Cheney/Bush riding bombs down on Iraq . . .

I need a cover showing Cheney/Bush reducing Iraq to rubble --- and

the innocent children and families they're murdering ---

I need a cover with COFFINS, COFFFINS, COFFINS, COFFINS, COFFINS . . .

COFFINS, COFFFINS, COFFINS, COFFINS, COFFINS . . .

COFFINS, COFFFINS, COFFINS, COFFINS, COFFINS . . .

COFFINS, COFFFINS, COFFINS, COFFINS, COFFINS . . .

COFFINS, COFFFINS, COFFINS, COFFINS, COFFINS . . .


and the tears of the world raining down on them . . .

[hedgehog]

14. I just wish I could find a copy of the cover the New Yorker ran just

before the 2004 election. It featured Kerry in a formal navy uniform looking over at a drunken Bush wearing a leather bomber jacket. We thought it was hilarious and captured the essence of the reason that Kerry was going to win in a land slide!

[defendandprotect]

32. ...and I think he did . . . !!!

at least at 4 o'clock in the afternoon ---

at least in the exit polls ---

and probably also in Ohio ---



not with Diebold, however . . .

[jesus_of_suburbia]

17. I am furious.. but if it SOMEHOW helps him (which I can't see) then I'm fine with it.

I understand what they are trying to do, but the execution of it is terrible in my opinion.

[defendandprotect]

33. At the moment, it only helps the GOP . . . but, actions against it might help in long run . . .

[Goblinmonger]

37. When did it become the purpose of The New Yorker

to help Obama? I think the cartoon is a good satire, but they aren't part of Obama's campaign.

[Donkey_Punch_Dubya]

19. Sadly, the old adage applies:

"Nobody ever went broke overestimating the stupidity of the American people."

There will be thousands of ingorant people that will see this cover in an email or some other context that is not seeing the New Yorker and reading the article, and will use this as "proof" that Obama is a sleeper cell terrorist or muslim or wild, evil, untrustworthy person. These people will vote for McCain as a way to vote against Obama.

Remember, there was a study in the 90s of people who got their news from different sources and their knowledge of world events and politics. The people who got their news from talk radio, conservative newsletters and wingnut magazines were the LEAST INFORMED out of 5 or 6 other groups (newspapers, TV news, liberal publications, nonpartisan mags, etc.). But they were also the MOST CERTAIN that they were correct. As Al Franken said, researchers called this phenomenon Pseudo-certainty, but we call it "being a fucking moron."

These people will see this cover as proof of something the Republican Noise Machine puts out there. This can only hurt, but hopefully it will be negligible.

[Amonester]

24. "we call it "being a f**cking morAn""

yep.

the ignoramusses will be at the receiving end of the republic's catapult with this stupidity.

I'll take the bets...

[defendandprotect]

34. ...and evidently the accompanying article is about Obama as an aggressive politician . . .

not anything about the filth of right-wing propaganda ---

[Monk06]

20. Just satire of a satire. Yup and those Nazis had a heck of a sense of humor

When they was satirizin' them Joos



Just havin' a bit of fun folks. I don't hate me no Joos nosiree.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

21. Good Point. The New Yorker being a noted white supremacist newsletter and all...

[Monk06]

23. What's tha matter don't you get my satire of a satire ???

[last_texas_dem]

22. Funny, and unlikely to have any substantial effect on this election

One of those things that *EXPLODES!!!!1!!1!!* on DU for a day or two and then is almost entirely forgotten about a week later (Snickers commerical, anyone?).

[Divine Discontent]

27. snicker commercial?

far from the same... Involved actors we didn't know, who weren't running for office, and it involved a same sex kiss. Sure, there was people ticked off about it, but this is not a game - the presidency is going to change a lot of things one way for the better or the worse depending on who we get

this is the point exactly that the people who aren't in disgust over this need to see - over half of DUer's in a poll are either angry or upset about the racist tinged cover. It's like something Mad TV would do to point out bigot's behavior - it's not something you'd expect to see on the cover of a political magazine.

Really ill conceived, and since the Obama campaign is upset over it, I think it will be pulled, along with all the emails many people have written in the past few hours. I'm glad many see it for what it is, an affront to the positive campaign message Obama's running, he's shying away from discussing these stupid email campaigns - the NY should have had the sense to do so, too!

[UTUSN]

25. When I asked a similar question, I was SHAT upon by the ususals

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6494793

[nam78_two]

26. Option 2 -given how politically illiterate this country is this isn't ideal

But perhaps given how politically illiterate this country is, most people are not even aware of what the New Yorker is. If it doesn't hurt his poll no.s then I don't really care. Still don't see that it is all that funny/clever or anything of the sort. Pretty obvious satire-there are cleverer things on TDS or the Colbert Report everyday. Heavy-handed and obvious satire is rarely as funny or effective (imo at least) as more subtle stuff.

[mrs_p]

28. just showed the cover to hubby and asked

what he thought."racist" is all he said. i think that will be the sentiment of many...

edit - spelling

[Duder]

29. It could have been worse...

Had they put him in a monkey suit and called it a satire of racists.

It'll be fodder for the anti Obama folks and candy for cable but overall a short distraction.

Personally I think the artist could have made his point better but... stay classy New Yorker.