Does anyone seriously think Obama isn't going to win this?

[GihrenZabi]

Speaking as a dedicated critic, nihilist, or pessimist depending on when you catch me;

And speaking as someone who generally detests Republicans and would eject them from the government hook, line, and sinker if he could, and who would strongly encourage Red states to attempt secession from the Union again so that we can let them go this time and not be saddled with them in the Federal government;

I honestly have no fears whatsoever that John McCain has a chance in HELL of winning this election. He's old, clueless, can't take the initiative, is riding behind one of the worst Presidents in American history, faces a nation which is increasingly hostile towards the Republican Party at the moment, and who can't even find his footing on the most essential platform for his campaign, namely Iraq.

This is why I feel so safe in criticism of Obama and why I don't think it does a bloody thing to hurt his chances.

Does anyone REALLY think that John McCain could pull this off? If so, how and why?

[KittyWampus]

1. election fraud and a complicit media. edit- but you certainly have your rationalization planned out

[GihrenZabi]

22. Wow

And people say I'M a nihilist! LOL!

[mod mom]

23. I agree Obama should but whether he will is up to our tainted election system. This is why

I am so pissed at the Dems conceding FISA-thus giving * more power, thinking it can be fixed once Obama is in office. WE've had 2 blatantly stolen presidential elections right in a row, what to make one think this will be different?

MSM is already pushing the excuse about unresolved Hillary supporters.

[helderheid]

50. My grave concern as well. We HAVE to come out in HUGE numbers

[Imagevision]

2. EZ money , Obama will landslide mccain...

[Imagevision]

3. Even Diebold isn't going to help Johnny on this election...

[navarth]

16. Hope you're right, but don't forget the 'security' meme...

I mean really, what have we come up with to counter the 'no attacks since the Iraq war started' meme? That seems to be their best weapon. I know it's bullshit, you know it's bullshit, but what about the 'low information voter'? You know...the morons?

[Imagevision]

20. 'no attacks since 2001' - WTC 93 attack= 8 years - 2001 WTC attack=7 years w/o attacks

Until the US. passes 8 years without being attacked Bushco hasn't accomplished nothing Clinton hasn't already.

[navarth]

31. Nope. It has to be simpler than that. One sentence tops.

Remember we're dealing with low-information voters (morons).

I understand it, you understand it. But that does no good to counter their meme. It needs a counter.

Not trying to give you a hard time, really.

But I honestly believe it's going to take a simple, one-sentence, 'catchy' meme.

[Imagevision]

33. One sentence; "2001 WTC attack =7 years without attacks

[navarth]

36. thanks for trying, but...

sorry, I just don't feel that sentence being effective. I mean, that's kinda agreeing with their meme. they're saying none since 2001, and this agrees with that. sure, it's only 7 years. but...ehh, I don't think it's effective.

but please don't let me discourage anybody. I can't think of one either.

[tekisui]

54. The "morons" are no longer a voting majority.

[Bicoastal]

McCain is an old white man, Obama is a young-ish black man.

Never, EVER underestimate the power of bigots in this country.

[thetaoofterri]

56. So, are you saying that's the only reason

voters would vote for McCain. If they vote for McCain, they are racist?

[Bicoastal]

58. Well, if they're the sort of people who've voted for Democrats for 30-odd years...

...and this year, inexplicably decide to cast their vote for McCain DESPITE the fact he doesn't have their best economic or diplomatic interests at heart?

In that case, yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. And, as we saw in the primaries, these people DO exist.

[whistle]

4. Yes, the John McCain followers

[leftofcool]

5. McCain could pull it off..........

remember, half the country is made up of repukes who know not what they do but vote for a repuke just because they are repukes and want repukes to stay in power.

[AndyA]

6. Change the name in your question. Just the name.

Does anyone REALLY think that John McCain could pull this off? If so, how and why?

Substitute George Bush for John McCain.

There is your answer. :(

[Overseas]

61. Sad to say I agree. In 2004 after Moms had to hold bake sales to buy armor for our soldiers

and after the horrors of Abu Ghraib were exposed, you'd think no one would reelect that President. We had Kerry the war hero, well informed on defense and foreign policy, ready to institute an Apollo program to free the USA from dependence on foreign oil. Leading in the polls.

But the corporate media helped smear Kerry as an elitist and they're working that angle hard again-- trying to make John Sidney McCain III with seven homes seem like the regular guy because he doesn't talk as well as one-home Obama. The corporate media easily accepted Republican talking points about how "exit polls are faulty," and had sincere panel discussions on God, Guns & Gays ready to roll out to explain those discrepancies in the "faulty" exit polls that showed Kerry 51% to Bush 48%.

Repubs flipped the vote using their Dribs & Drabs Method of vote manipulation. When Dems on the ground caught one problem, folks talked them down saying those few thousand votes won't make much difference. But those few thousand votes were multiplied through a variety of methods -- not just memory cards to fix "glitches" in voting machines on election day, but also caging lists, distributing too few machines to Democratic areas, voter intimidation, challenging voter registrations to slow things down, etc.

Lots of people even in liberal circles called those of us who were shouting about election fraud "conspiracy theorists" and told us to just accept that we lost. Even David Corn in The Nation just dismissed our complaints out of hand.

Only years later do the reports emerge that we were right. But that is just too awful to think about so let's pretend things weren't really that bad and talk about all the weaknesses in Kerry's campaign to explain things away.

An easy way to see all those Republican vote stealing methods compiled is in the movie Uncounted.
www.uncountedthemovie.com

[griffi94]

7. while i can see how you

came to the conclusion that mccain has no chance. i didn't think dubya could win in 04 either.
jmo but the election will come down to a few hundred thousand votes in a few key swing states. so imo mccain can win.
this is obamas election at the moment, only time will tell if he can hang onto it and close the deal in november.

[Colobo]

8. Obama will beat McCain.

[Kaylee]

9. Yes.....Media, Media, and more Media.

[PatGund]

10. Anything is possible....

All things being equal, I think Sen. Obama has the better chance. Which doesn't mean people completely agree with him, but he's got the better chance.

Which is why the GOP, corporate media, and others are trying to undermine. So far most of it hasn't gotten traction, but they're going to continue from now until November.

Also don't rule out an "October Surprise" There's a batch of things that could scare people into voting for McCain. Racism, Terrorist attack, military action against Iran, general fearmongering, a colony drop.......

[NattPang]

11. Obama will beat McCain, if we all make sure of it.

That means you too.

[bermudat]

12. Do not underestimate the low information voter.

9-11 happened on Bush's watch, but he is not held accountable. The country is much worse now

than in 1/20/2001, but no one's indicted, no one suffers except the American people. Obama won't

carry any of the slave states. Obama may have a chance if the young people come out in force to

vote. Don't underestimate the knuckle draggers who have never voted who may come out to vote

against a man of color. I don't think it is in the bag. There will be a veto proof Democratic

congress, but I think McCain and his barbie doll wife may be in the white house in 2009. I sincerely

hope I am wrong.

[griffi94]

25. i agree with you

i also think the number of undecideds who wind up breaking for mccain could play a big part in november.
the people who support obama already support obama. in the end it may come down to who the undecideds are more comfortable with, and that could in fact be mccain.

[leftynyc]

43. Every 4 years I hear how

the youth vote is going to turn out and every 4 years I'm disappointed. I'll believe it when I see it.

[Stevepol]

13. As in 04, the only way the Repubs win is by cheating, mainly w/ ES&S et al.

However, the criminals on the far right have refined the methodolgy so well by now and so little has been done to prevent their doing the same thing they did in 04 that it's not possible to be sure that the actual count will favor Obama.

Obama will win in a landslide, but that result will have to pass thru the voting machines and in particular the central tabulators.

[book_worm]

14. I don't discount anything. I thought that Kerry would win in '04 too.

[Hawkowl]

15. Agree. So....

Why is Obama playing it too safe and voting for the FISA abomination? Why is he moving towards the center? He has the best chance in over 100 years to actually LEAD the country in a new direction. Any direction that he wants actually. And so far, just some lame posturing to try and pick up disgruntled rethuglicans.

Yeah, yeah. I'll vote for him probably, but I'd prefer a fire breathing liberal or at least an anti-corporate progressive candidate.

[Fire_brand]

17. The Jeremiah Wright stuff could come back to hurt Obama

If Obama were to lose, it would be because of that

[mod mom]

bullshit. Rev Wright isn't running for president and Obama distanced himself.

the only way for McCain to win is the same way * got into office-CHEATING.

[Colobo]

29. Bush did win in 04. Kerry ran a lousy campaign.

[mod mom]

34. I'm from Ohio and witnessed it first hand. Read this and it doesn't even take

into account the voting machines, which as the GAO Report on electronic voting and Ohio's Everest Report indicate are UNRELIABLE, INACCURATE AND SUBJECT TO TAMPERING. READ THIS:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/mod%20mom/1

[Colobo]

28. Mmm... I think it's old news already.

[depakid]

38. Oh, it'll be back, don't you worry

along with other surprises, no doubt.

Question is whether early release of the material during the primary has pulled the teeth of the tiger on it or not.

[Gman]

18. You bet your ass McCain can win this

and has a damn good chance of doing it. McCain's has just as good a chance as Obama if not a better chance.. The few weeks left before the GE will be a political eternity in which anything you can imagine and things you hadn't even thought of can and probably will happen. War in Iran is the #1 thing to be concerned about.

This race is light years from over.

[Imagevision]

45. Today Obama has a 3 point lead over McCain ---> In Arizona...

[Gman]

73. This is July 16. It doesn't mean a thing for November

I'd take that poll a lot more seriously if this were October 1.

[nancyr]

19. Never take anything for granted.

I think McCain is merely a pawn...much like Bush is a pawn. Is anyone actually expecting a fair election??? My memory is not short enough that I trust the system. Do not under-estimate the gullability of the average yahoo.

[NYC_SKP]

21. As much as we want to win.....

....the opposing side wants us to fail.

And they are powerful, and angry, and really quite capable of doing anything to protect their corrupt empire.

I don't ever want to become complacent on this.

Pull together, stay together, take nothing for granted....I think we will win.

:patriot:

[GreenTea]

24. The same republican owned voting machines as in 2004 are still neatly in place and nothing has....

changed...except more democrats don't believe anything could stop them and as always underestimate republicans slime & determination to steal with the extremely easily hackable, non traceable voting machines they control...

[truebrit71]

26. Diebold and a bought and paid for M$M ensure this is far from being a sure thing....

...The presstitutes STILL insist that this will be a close run thing, when just about every person I speak to, Dem or republican can't WAIT to NOT vote for a republican this fall, leads me to believe that they are either a) falsely kkeping it close so that they can appear relevant and have something to yap about for the next 16 weeks, or b) they are doing their part to insure that big business gets "their guy" in the WH in november...


Either way I am NOT taking anything for granted, they stole the last two elections...there's no reason for them not to be able to do the same again this time around...

[helderheid]

51. what you said. All of it.

[Youphemism]

27. You sound like the media: "Why isn't he further ahead now?"

A year ago few people knew this guy's name. A half-black junior Senator from the Philippines/Hawaii/Kansas with a family nearly as diverse as Disneyland's Small World exhibit, accused of being a Muslim/having a background in it, with a nutty pastor who swears at the country, running against a Senator with decades of government experience who's a war hero, while our nation is at war several times over, and news cycles dredge up landmine issues like hypodermic needles washed in by high tide on a New Jersey beach...

Nahhh. No worries.

Obama should win, but it would be pretty silly to suggest he can't lose.

[GihrenZabi]

30. I just can't see it happening

I really can't. The media loves Obama. Always has. Obama's on the offensive on Iraq. He takes no shit lying down. He's going to trounce McCain in debates.

Bush won because Kerry was a shit candidate. Obama is not.

Bush won because he had Karl Rove in his corner on both occasions as well as a well-organized Neo-Con junta. McCain has neither.

I think holding up either of Bush's elections as a comparison is a flawed argument on these scores. We have a strong Dem candidate who is intelligent, well-spoken, and in control of the facts versus a moderately-strong Rep candidate at best who stumbles, can't speak off the cuff to save his life, and who continues to score gaffes and stumbles.

[depakid]

32. Anyone who counts the Republicans out is a fool

3 1/2 months is an eternity in politics, and much of the American electorate is shallow and emotional- easily manipulated by events and imagery, both real and manufactured.

My take is that the election turns on the rust belt- and despite what some folks like to think, there's a lot of political inertia to overcome for any new kid on the block- particularly a new kid like Obama. Throw in what will be increasingly appalling behavior by the corporate media- and the campaign has its work cut out for them.

[nevergiveup]

It will be very very close.

I worry about the debates because the media will proclaim McCain the winner even if he slobbers all over his suit. Also, the expectations for Obama will be extremely high even though the reality is that he is too cautious to be a good debater. Having said this I do believe that the excitement and enthusiasm of Obama's supporters will make it difficult for the Repubs to steal this one. If they try there will be riots at the polls and the Republicans know it.

[Scairp]

35. It is my greatest fear

That is why I supported Hillary so fervently during the primary. I feel that between the two of them, she has (had), the best chance of beating McMoron, and pretty easily. I feel that we are still so deeply racially divided as a country that not enough white Democrats and moderate Republicans of all socioeconomic backgrounds will vote for Obama. That and his lack of experience in national politics will doom his campaign. They probably won't vote for another Repuke, they will just stay home, or write in Hillary's name or vote for McKinney, whatever. But yes, I feel he will not win. We know what McCain is, doesn't matter. We knew what * was and we allowed the media and RNC propaganda machine to get the creep elected anyway, twice no less, so why would any of you feel that McCain doesn't have a snowball's chance? Wake up Democrats. If Hillary were the nominee, we would be as good as in the WH now. She would have won this election. You reap what you sow.

[VADem11]

39. I disagree

Plus, the primaries are over.

[Scairp]

44. I am aware that the primaries are over

She still is the best candidate to beat McCain. It isn't that I hope he loses or think it or know it, I FEAR it. Big difference. And you are free to disagree. That's what this website is about.

[KaryninMiami]

53. I respectfully disagree. Hillary could not have won this election.

She has too much baggage- between the lobbyist monies she (and Bill) received, their ties to Saudi Arabia and big oil, Monsanto and countless other connections that would have come out during the campaign, it just would not be possible. AND that's not counting the countless Americans who - sorry but it's true- despise Bill Clinton and would not vote for Hillary because of this AND the fact that the right-wing, corporate owned media had been preparing for her to run for 7 years and their hatred of the Clintons alone, (and the money behind them) would have destroyed her and made it impossible for her to win.

For me, frankly, I was a supporter of hers big time a few years ago- a huge fan of both Clintons and in some ways, I guess I still am. But the way she handled her campaign and knee capped Obama was disgusting. She was desperate- I understand that but to put her desperation in front of the party- to lie and manipulate the media- and the absolute CRAP that they pulled here in Florida- all of it= totally disgraceful and beyond disappointing. Putting McCain and his supposed experience ahead of Obama's was for me, the last straw- that was of course, until she started demanding that they "count the votes" crap and tried not to count the caucus states. Disgraceful.

No- she would have lost to McCain and it would have been ugly. She would not have ignited the younger generations as Obama has done, fire up the progressives, as Obama has done (yes he's pissed us off a bit too but we are not wavering), blown away the independants as Obama has done (and will continue to do once they get a clearer picture of the difference between him and McCain). We have a better shot at this with Obama as the candidate- I truly believe this.

But, as for whether Obama will beat McCain? I say it's 50-50 now. If we can get a LANDSLIDE- a massive, outrageous, humongous LANDSLIDE of turnout for Obama- that makes it impossible for them to rig the machines by skimming off the top, or disenfranchising specific neighborhoods with less machines (or broken machines, or whatever), and millions of us waiting and watching to see what shit they attempt to steal it again- and those same millions of us ready to take to the streets if they dare try it again- maybe- just maybe- we can make it happen.

But, my heart never totally healed after 2000 and was destroyed again in 2004 so I'm not doing anything more then- hoping and doing everything I can, to get the vote out for Obama.

[Thrill]

37. 60 million voted for Bush the second time. Never underestimate the idiots in this country

[LaPera]

40. They also stole votes BIG time in the 2006 election.....

(Just as the republicans stole Ohio and other precincts around the country for Bush in 2004)

One can't just depend on the TV media not to tell one about the massive theft in 2006...If it wasn't for the huge turnout by the Dems in 2006 the republicans would have completely stolen it and held congress...Rove really thought they had it stolen two weeks before the election and Dean shifted gears on the republicans and decided to not just pay attention to races they thought they could win Rove knew the DLC only wanted to pour money into sure Dem areas...But Dean threw them all a curve ball and went with a 50 state plan instead, in the last two weeks and the Dems donated heavily and turned out in droves in races thought lost until Dean decided to go after all races in all 50 states ...However, yes, there was still millions votes stolen, not counted,.

Election Defense Alliance, a national election integrity organization, issued an urgent call for further investigation into the 2006 election results and a moratorium on deployment of all electronic election equipment, after analysis of national exit polling data indicated a major undercount of Democratic votes and an overcount of Republican votes in U.S. House and Senate races across the country. “These findings raise urgent questions about the electoral machinery and vote counting systems used in the United States,” according to Sally Castleman, National Chair of EDA. This is a national indictment of the vote counting process in the United States!

As in 2004, the exit polling data and the reported election results don’t add up. “But this time there is an objective yardstick in the methodology which establishes the validity of the Exit Poll and challenges the accuracy of the election returns,” said Jonathan Simon, co-founder of Election Defense Alliance. The Exit Poll findings are detailed in a paper published today on the EDA website.

The 2006 Edison-Mitofsky Exit Poll was commissioned by a consortium of major news organizations. Its conclusions were based on the responses of a very large sample, of more than 10,000 voters nationwide*, and posted at 7:07 p.m. Election Night, on the CNN website. That Exit Poll showed Democratic House candidates had out-polled Republicans by 55.0 percent to 43.5 percent – an 11.5 percent margin – in the total vote for the U.S. House, sometimes referred to as the “generic” vote.

http://electiondefensealliance.org/major_m...

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cf...

http://www.bradblog.com

The republican will absolutely attempt it again this November if they can with the medias help and bullshit polling people around here qoute so often that McCain on election night is within three or four points of Obama....If they can (and they will) convince people it's a close race and the network talking heads will do their job then the republicans can easily steal it again with their electronic voting machines and everyone will again be scratching their heads the next day and pointing fingers.

[Blondiegrrl]

76. EXACTLY. n/t

[leftynyc]

41. I think there is a good chance

mccain could win. Because of old fashioned (that isn't so old) racism. It's really that simple.

[Clark2008]

42. Such bigotry.

Not everyone in the red states is a Republican. Your attempts to bash us for some of our bretheren aren't welcome and certainly aren't unifying. Where would you suggest the 40 to 49 percent of us blue voters in red states go?

See... I didn't even pay attention to the rest of your question beyond that point.

[GihrenZabi]

46. Move to Blue States

I'll support government payment for the effort and economic plans to provide you all with well-paying jobs and nice homes when you get here. :)

[grantcart]

59. when I see somebody say something like that I just watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5fwJEWLUv8

[PATRICK]

47. Past History

We are running an election against a fraud, hence the election is not quite in the election frame. Playing by their rules in the past this is how it goes. Central Control plans out each state. GOP in control in all the top jobs and in significant "special" precincts. So much is going on that where the finger points is inevitably general frustration rather than direct crime, such as "long lines" at polling places, quirky, suspicious technology- on election day. Already a fog of having got away with it covers registration and pre-voting and vote suppression and slander, the weed roots of a successful vote control.

The SOS wages war on Dem voters. The media performs its partisan task. Even so, even in chosen states this does not work enough! After the turmoil of "messy balloting", in the shadows, comes the outright vote total changing. Ask Sigelman. daring to mess openly with one precinct in a close election, or messing with the tabulators as high up as a back room in the WH.

The Dems are part of the system in a way that cripples their protest or prosecution of the crime. They are ineffective at stopping or punishing past techniques. When they do learn the GOP has moved beyond or gamed their Keystone Cops style defense. The GOP is constantly improving, centralizing and disappearing their game which relies still on local control- which they are losing! Have no fear, in comes private software and tabulator channels running to the RNC headquarters and joy of joys, the incredibly obvious Trojan Horse of internet voting(arising for all those poor overseas soldiers(guess who keeps them overseas?) and Dems in exile. One crime distracts from another and leads to the progress to a cleaner, less troublesome fraud, less embarrassing visibly to Dems.

Can this win? They have lost local control a lot at the state level(Ohio) but not at all in certain states who have cheated with impunity and will again. If central tabulation is simply going to ratchet up the post election stealing outrage OR they do try again a real violent event(risk is not acceptable as per what happened in Spain) the element of risk and daring comes in- if Dems sleep.

Hating dangerous risk, they may have a plan to settle for bleeding the Obama mandate. I do think, unless they have some surprise they can count on with everyone watching, few they can trust, they are going to lose and may even hide their exposure. Quieting down so that they may put fraud under the radar seems unacceptable to them also.

It is the not knowing, the lack of effective countering of the main and little frauds, the concession to media participation, that still make this election "exciting". On the other hand, you could put up a
piece of swiss cheese in search of a ham sandwich and the GOP in an off year is still going to rake in a sizable voter chunk. They will always be tempted or desperate to go for the win.

The best candidate does not always win in America and there lies the current rub.

[pnwmom]

48. Polls have them only a few points apart and the last two elections have been

subject to massive voter fraud and dis-enfranchisement.

I can't imagine why anyone would be feeling secure about our prospects now.

Of course John McCain -- with his White House helpers -- could still pull this off.

[Vinca]

49. Republicans still own the voting machine companies.

If they didn't, I'd feel a whole lot more confident Obama will win.

[paulk]

52. the electoral college, which favors rural areas, always gives

the Republicans an advantage. It's also a demographic Obama did poorly with in the primaries.


A lot will depend on his VP pick - if he chooses someone who can help him in the places he doesn't have much appeal, perhaps he can negate that.

I think this election will be close. The media will do everything in it's power to make it so - they want a horserace - it's good for ratings.

Be assured any mistake Obama makes will be magnified beyond recognition, while McCain will get a pass for just about everything.

Events could change the dynamic of this election. Another terrorist attack could bring the focus more on national security and experience, which benefits McCain.

Don't pay attention to national tracking polls - they are meaningless. General elections are won on a state by state basis.

----------------------

Obama's greatest advantage is that McCain has, so far, shown himself to be a poor campaigner. And the Republican brand is certainly not selling well right now. But, don't overestimate the American public. They think they know McCain, while Obama is an unknown for many.

[anonymous171]

55. That's why we need to be on the lookout for election fraud

[On the Road]

57. If the Status Quo Continues

I agree with you. Obama's lead is not only sizable for an open election, it has been remarkably stable and trending slightly up.

McCain is not a good candidate. Obama is very good.

Having said that, there are endless minefields ahead. Many opportunities for scandals, swiftboating, wars, terror scares, etc. Anything can happen.

[JoFerret]

60. This has to be an election that almost ANY democrat

should win.
Incumbent thoroughly disliked.
Incompetence abounding
polls indicating big majority know country on the wrong track.
Weak opponent.
Economy wrecked
Iraq
Everyone anxious, miserable, angry etc.etc. etc.

I am not suggesting complacency but really - add it all up - and any quarter decent dem should be able to beat McCain in Novemeber.

[Carrieyazel]

67. McCain's not the incumbent though. And McCain runs better in polls

than any other Repuke would have. If we were running against Shrub/Chainee, this thing would have been over two years ago.

[JoFerret]

69. The GOP is in a very weak position

And McCain is vulnerable.
Any one of the major dem primary contenders would be able to defeat him handily.

It's a perfect storm.

[ecstatic]

62. What were your predictions for '00 & '04?

:shrug:

[JoFerret]

72. The GOP stars were never so misaligned in either 2000 or 2004

as they are this year.

[Hekate]

63. Diebold, Sequoia, & rigged public opinion polls could turn an Obama landslide into a close win for

...McSame. As Stalin said, it's not who gets the most votes, it's who counts them. Need I remind you that's how it's been done the past *several* election cycles?

As regards criticizing and running down Obama, we have got to have that man's back at all times. We have got to create such a thundering landslide victory that even Diebold and Sequoia can't undo it.

I'm losing patience with the quibblers.

Hekate

[Timmy5835]

64. Of course Obama will win

The GOP has NO intention of winning this time. The country is totally screwed up and there is no way they can come even close to fixing it or even wanting to. The plan is wait it out for one term, let Obama tread water then come back in 2012 as the shinning heroes to protect a nation. They have screwed this country up so much it will take decades to fix. They can wait.

[L0oniX]

65. This guy doesn't think so....

[Carrieyazel]

66. McCain is the only one who HAS a shot in hell of pulling it off. And they nominated him.

Looking at the polls, he's close. Much closer than Romney, Guiliani or any other of those sure losers would have been.

Obama leads Shrub in a hypothetical poll by 20 points, and only leads McCain by 3 points. Which suggests that this is going to be much tougher than running against a disgraced incumbent president or vice president. It also suggests that McCain is still retaining much of his "maverick" and "straight talk" image among the center and even among DINOs and some Hillary supporters.

No Repuke should even be close to single digits behind Obama at this point.

[Firespirit]

68. Yep

People are stupid as HELL and if anything, are getting worse. 2006 was a true perfect storm, with the lobbying scandals, continuous bad news about Iraq, lingering anger over Katrina, and the covering up for a child predator. Yet 44% of all votes nationwide STILL went for Republicans and only 52% for Democrats. The media tore the GOP a new one in 06 but have gone back to their old ways now. Additionally, there are the factors of Diebold, voter suppression, and the "coming home" right before an election where R voters who have been threatening not to vote R suddenly get cold feet.

My sigline depicts what I would like, not what I expect.

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

70. Overconfidence will be our undoing...

[CakeGrrl]

71. McCain can win the same way Bush got in in 2004 when he shouldn't have

Clear media bias toward Republicans

Vote Fraud

They just have to keep it close enough to steal.

[Zhade]

74. If it weren't for electoral fraud, I'd think he has it in the bag.

NT!

[Blondiegrrl]

75. Um, YES. John McCain can win this election.

He doesn't have to pull anything off. He can continue to be his same bumbling, senile, warmonger self, and Americans will still vote for him because there are a LOT of stupid people in this country.

But even if the people of this country have (hopefully) learned their lesson after 8 years of Bush II dictatorship, there's always election fraud.

The worst possible thing we can do for Obama is be complacent and assume he will win. Let's not forget how sneaky and dirty the rethugs are, nor how money hungry the horse-race-loving media is.