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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:15 PM
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Obama campaign: McCain ‘got confused again’
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16220.html#more-16220

Obama campaign: McCain ‘got confused again’
Posted July 16th, 2008

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One of the McCain campaign’s principal talking points yesterday was that Obama presented a detailed policy in Iraq without consulting with commanders on the ground first. This morning, Gibbs turned this around on McCain: “Those reporters who were traveling with Senator McCain yesterday can verify whether he was consulting with the commanders on the ground in Afghanistan multiple times yesterday that would coincide with the multiple positions he seemed to take.”

But it was Rice’s reference to McCain being “confused again” that’s likely to draw interest.

I’ve already heard some argue that these constant references to McCain’s “confusion” are a not-so-subtle way of reinforcing questions about McCain’s age. The last time Obama aides used the word, some media outlets raised a fuss.

The truth is, every criticism is not a veiled reference to McCain turning 72. People of all ages get “confused.”

The kicker, though, is that McCain really has been confused. Whether he’s 72 or 22 is irrelevant — he’s demonstrated time and again that he just doesn’t understand the basics.

* McCain continues to believe Czechoslovakia is still a country.

* McCain has been confused about the difference between Sudan and Somalia.

* McCain has been confused about how many U.S. troops are in Iraq.

* McCain has been confused about whether the U.S. can maintain a long-term presence in Iraq.

* McCain has been confused about the source of violence in Iraq.

* McCain has been confused about Iran’s relationship with al Qaeda.

* McCain has been confused about the difference between Sunni and Shi’ia.

* McCain has been confused about Gen. Petraeus’ responsibilities in Iraq.

* McCain has been confused about what transpired during the Maliki government’s recent offensive in Basra.

* McCain has been confused about Gen. Petraeus’ ability to travel around Baghdad “in a non-armed Humvee.”

* McCain has been so confused about Iraq, in November 2006, he couldn’t even do a live interview about the war without reading prepared notes on national television.

* McCain has been confused about his vote on the Kyl-Lieberman amendment on the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.

* McCain has been confused about his position on contraception.

* McCain has been confused about what the Internet is.

* McCain’s confusion about economics has been breathtaking.

* McCain has been really confused about how the Social Security system works.

* McCain is confused about how his own energy policy works.


Given this, yes, I think it’s entirely reasonable for Obama campaign aides to mention that McCain “got confused again.” It seems to me, this is far more polite than saying he’s utterly clueless about the world around him.

The problem isn’t that McCain’s critics are picking loaded terms; the problem is McCain doesn’t seem to know what he’s talking about.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:19 PM
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1. Confused: A gentle sentiment that is packed with all kinds of negative connotations.
I love the fact that Obama is taking on McBush fearlessly.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:21 PM
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2. LOL- maybe CIndy can give him some of her meds to clear his mind!
:rofl:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:26 AM
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23. Maybe she can tell him how to get around Arizona in a car
She is confused too if she thinks the only way to get around Arizona is by Private Plane -"elite."
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 12:29 PM
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26. LOL- that's how I travel around NJ!
this is my private plane:



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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:50 AM
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32. Stop making me laugh so hard


I wish Howdy Dowdy McCain could fly on your plane. : )
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:28 PM
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3. "He's demonstrated time and time again that he just doesn't understand the basics."
That sums it up beautifully.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 04:38 PM
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4.  I remember when the whore media was on Al Gore's
case about fucking george fucking bush's DUI.

Maybe Obama campaign should just say.."Once again mccain doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about".
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Voice for Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 05:10 PM
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5. this is totally confusing:
This morning, Gibbs turned this around on McCain: “Those reporters who were traveling with Senator McCain yesterday can verify whether he was consulting with the commanders on the ground in Afghanistan multiple times yesterday that would coincide with the multiple positions he seemed to take.”

what does it mean?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 05:23 PM
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9. I think Gibbs meant that McCain has changed his position on
Afghanistan so often lately, who did he consult prior to doing so? This after McCain's campaign chastized Obama for even having talking points on Afghanistan when he hasn't spoken to anyone there yet. It's a bogus critique; Gibbs was pointing out how disingenuous it was.

IMO...
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 05:16 PM
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6. He's having flashbacks and everyone should be scared sh1tless
at the prospect of McCain being in control of the button.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 05:18 PM
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7. Confused, when asked "Boxers or Briefs?" He answered,
Depends.





I know it's an old joke, but it never gets old to me.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 05:23 PM
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8. Of course if the press refuses to cover this then it's like it never happened.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:08 PM
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10. and Putin is president of Germany n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:15 PM
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11. I wish someone would ask him
"When did the trollop take your car keys?"

Effin Codger.

-Hoot
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 06:31 PM
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12. He should be singing "Dazed and Confused" by Led Zepplin ...more examples of his cofusion here...
"I disagree with what the majority of the American people want." --John McCain

"I 'Don't See How It Matters' That I Don't Know The Price Of Gas." --John McCain

"Only the most deluded of us could doubt the necessity of this war."
--John McCain

"Thank God for our form of government. The media won't let there be any cover-up." --John McCain

"We must win in Iraq. If we withdraw, there will be chaos; there will be genocide; and they will follow us home." --John McCain

"I am fully prepared to be commander in chief... I don't need on-the-job training." --John McCain

"Remember the words of Chairman Mao: 'It's always darkest before it's totally black.'." --John McCain

"I will veto every single beer, um, bill with earmarks." --speaking at the National Small Business Summit, Washington, D.C., June 10, 2008

"We should be able to deliver bottled hot water to dehydrated babies." --Kenner, Louisiana, June 3, 2008

"I'm going to be honest: I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated." --John McCain

"I am a illiterate that has to rely on my wife for all of the assistance I can get." -after being asked whether us uses a Mac or a PC

"It's not social issues I care about." --John McCain

"F**k you! I know more about this than anyone else in the room." --to Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX), during a testy exchange about immigration legislation

"No, I'm calling you a f*cking jerk." --to fellow Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, when Grassley asked "Are you calling me stupid?"

"I said, 'The nice thing about Alzheimer's is you get to hide your own Easter eggs.'" --John Mc Cain

"Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father." --at a 1998 Republican fund raiser

"I will conduct a respectful debate. Now, it will be dispirited -- it will be spirited -- because there are stark differences. I am a proud conservative, liberal Republica-- conservative Republican...Hello? Easy there." --John Mc Cain


:evilgrin:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:09 AM
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18. This one would make a great ad:
Does John know where he stands on any issue??

"I will conduct a respectful debate. Now, it will be dispirited -- it will be spirited -- because there are stark differences. I am a proud conservative, liberal Republica-- conservative Republican...Hello? Easy there." --John Mc Cain
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:20 AM
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20. "I will veto every single beer, um, bill with earmarks." -- John McCain
That one is enough to start nation wide riots.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:13 PM
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13. Everytime McCain calls Obama naive, like he did yesterday...
Obama should counter by pointing out something that McCain is confused about. McCain's use of the word "naive" is also a not so subtle dig at Obama's age. In fact, it's a much more direct criticism than saying someone is confused. So why should Obama let him have a pass.

Turn-about is fair play. When the media starts squawking about him picking on McCain, Obama's surrogates should drive the point home that McCain has made discussion about his age fair game by making Obama's age a campaign issue. And if he can't take the heat he should move his rocking chair.
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detectivecastro Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 08:30 PM
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14. Sounds to me like yet another McCain lie
He lies and lies and the media gives him the benefit of the doubt. lies become "confusions."
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-16-08 09:25 PM
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15. "When will Obama visit Czechoslovakia?"
Edited on Wed Jul-16-08 09:28 PM by Major Hogwash
"Obama should also visit Atlantis while he is in Europe. They serve a great continental breakfast there."

"I Left My Heart In Czechoslovakia" was one of the songs that McCain credits for keeping him sane while he was training at the Naval Academy.

"My Little Czechoslovakian Honey" is another great song that McCain still hums to himself occasionally.
"I know that I almost wore out that record playing it on the old Victrola when it first came out. There will never be another Rudy Giuliani."

"Don't Cry For Me, Czechoslovakia" was a play that McCain thinks he went to several years ago when it was on Broadway.
"I remember when Carmen Miranda used to wear fruit bowls on her head and she could really sing", said McCain, "I think she was from Czechoslovakia because she sang with so much passion about it."

"From Czechoslovakia, With Love" was McCain's favorite James Bond movie.
"I loved that part when Agent DoubleZeroSix or TwoTimesSquared, or whatever his name was, drove that speedboat past all those gondolas in the Yangtze river."

McCain is not old, he just outsourced his credibility, is all.
It's alive and well and living out a totally separate existence in Rome, France.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 12:43 AM
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16. He's a wee bit confused.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 10:38 AM
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17. He's obviously too confused to be trusted with the presidency.
I bookmarked this and I'm going to send it to my in-laws who are "uncomfortable" with the idea of having a black man in the WH. Perhaps they will now be "uncomfortable" about having a man in office who doesn't know some very basic facts about the world we live in.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:14 AM
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19. McCain is OLD, he's SENILE, and he often gets CONFUSED.
These are facts, they're not slurs.

It's obvious he has dementia. He frequently forgets things like who Al Qaeda hates. His mind is mush.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:30 AM
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24. Don't forget that he can't figure out about Viagra---
That look on his face is clueless -- he is OUT to Breakfast/Lunch and Dinner.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 12:12 PM
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25. He heard the word "viagra," and nearly pissed his pants.
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 12:12 PM by TexasObserver
He clearly had no idea his surrogate had made the statement that viagra was being covered by medicare, but birth control was not.

I thought he looked like he was thinking "oh, shit! Did that *&^% wife of mine say something to the press about my limp wiener!!?"
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 01:17 AM
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27. LOL ~ I wish I had been a fly on the wall

when he got out of that sticky situation and blasted his staff.

He is totally out of it ~ please stay awake America and don't let this fool fool you.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:23 AM
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21. Mccain needs to hire Lieberman fulltime!
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 11:25 AM
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22. Confusion Theme Is A Free Pass - What About McCain's Advisors? Lies
Edited on Thu Jul-17-08 11:25 AM by Median Democrat
The confusion idea would be acceptable if just John McCain only was displaying the confusion. However, this is not the case. You have Phil Gramm and Carly Fiorina repeating some of these same "confused" statements regarding McCain's voting record, stances on reproductive issues, social security, and on taxes.

So, unless we are going to say that John McCain's "confusion" is contagious, my take is that McCain's campaign is not confused. Instead, they simply will say and directly lie to the audience of at issue.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 01:27 AM
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28. Debate riposte: "Senator McCain's confused again..."
used just like Reagan did so effectively against Jimmy Carter.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 04:58 AM
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30. McCain's new slogan - "I forgot what I said yesterday. And I'm hoping you did, too."
"Vote for me, the old fucker with no clue, no plan, and I just ran out of Viagra!!"

Did you know that McCain receives a Social Security check?
Yup, that's right, the very system that McCain says shouldn't even exist is paying him a monthly benefit check.

McCain is such a lying, fucking hypocrite it isn't even funny!
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iconicgnom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 01:49 AM
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29. McCain is befuddled 100% of the time. Question is how many voters won't even notice.
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 05:14 AM
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31. McCain is so confused.....
Edited on Sat Jul-19-08 05:18 AM by aaroh
....complete the joke

I think you guys are onto something. This could replace the your mama jokes.
They should run an attack ad on McCain with Bernie Mac or Chris Rock pitching McConfuse jokes.
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