Wetzelbill
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Wed Jul-16-08 08:42 PM
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I don't think McCain actually commits gaffes.. |
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A gaffe is a mistake. I think he's just like that. Calling him a gaffe machine, is essentially saying that those mistakes are out of character for him at least some of the time. I think he's a train wreck all of the time. The guy can't even use a computer, that goes to show just how ignorant and incurious a person he is.
I found his comments on social security recently the most disturbing. I heard people in the media say it was a mistake, meaning that McCain was simply saying we need to revamp social security and politically that is a bad move because people basically like the program. But I don't think McCain meant that he just disagreed with the program and how it's funded, I think he said it in a way to suggest that social security wasn't always ran this way. I was astounded, because, I don't think he even knew how the program worked and has always worked. It seemed like it just dawned on him that the current workforce actually pays for the current retirees. I don't think he even bothered to learn something so basic and simple as that.
This is a trend for him, he doesn't even know the most basic things about policy or anything. Like when he said Shiites and Sunnis didn't have a history of violence against each other. Huh? WTF was that? That's Middle East 101 stuff. That's not some complex history lesson, but McCain actually said that and with certitude? That's just bone ignorant. Or stupid. Or both.
Paul Krugman mentioned something the other day on his blog about how he wasn't surprised McCain didn't even know how social security worked, because politicians often get where they are just by looking and sounding good. That's McCain, he has an interesting bio, he hangs out with the media and loves them up, but he doesn't know much about policy and what he does know he's so far off on he should just forget it.
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Wed Jul-16-08 08:48 PM
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1. His election would be the nail in the coffin for the U.S. |
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Wed Jul-16-08 08:52 PM
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3. We Cannot. Must Not Allow this Train Wreck...to become a Nation Wreck like Bush is..period |
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Wed Jul-16-08 08:58 PM
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4. it's scary thought that the guy who song "Bomb Iran" might be president |
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Not exactly a statesman, this guy.
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Wed Jul-16-08 08:50 PM
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2. If he had internert access, he might actually learn something. |
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It's not so bad he's computer illiterate. The fact that he wants to stay that way is really stoopid, IMO. I heard him talking about learning to "get on the internet" like it was some complicated, elusive process. GEEZ! :crazy:
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Wed Jul-16-08 08:59 PM
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5. I find the idea of a buffoon like McCain even being this close to the presidency appalling. |
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Edited on Wed Jul-16-08 08:59 PM by BlueStater
God help us all if he actually gets in.
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:11 PM
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6. Not ready for PrimeTime due to inaction in the Prep Dept...he shoulda coulda woulda prepped himself |
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but got drunk instead...
and Now he wants the Helm??
The Voters ask How can we Trust him? with his history of il preparedness....we cannot Trust his feeble judgement...
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:23 PM
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10. you ever notice how the GOP always races to the bottom |
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Like the Dems put forward the best and brightest, like Obama is an outstanding person, well-educated, picked himself up from humble beginnings and made something out of himself. He's a great writer, a teacher, and a community organizer. He is the best of what the American Dream has to offer. Just like Bill Clinton in many ways, because BC came from a humble background too, and made himself into a Rhodes Scholar etc.
Then you have guys like McCain and Bush. Poor students. Never really did much, got by on their daddy and Granddaddy's names and accomplishments. Never learned a thing, made being ignorance a way of life. That's what gets you to the top of the GOP. At least, McCain survived as a POW, but he had no choice, he had to do that. That's an aberration of his character, because other than that he's shown himself to be a man of low character, low morals and high incognizance.
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:30 PM
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12. Deaf Dumb and Dumber... OMG, thats the GOP Best??? Omg...Landslide.... |
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:37 PM
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13. it is, the Republican Party is like Affirmitive Action gone wrong for priveleged stupid white people |
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:57 PM
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20. its a selfdestruct mode them pubs are in |
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:11 PM
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7. lots of people, including myself, used to think he actually knew something |
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Maybe not a lot, but I kind of thought he might know a little about policy, then I heard him start telling unchallenged whoppers all the time. It took me less than a year living in Arizona to figure out what this guy was made of. He's like Bush with a slightly better bio. I heard he's a nice guy, down to earth and that was from a very liberal professor who is an Vietnam Vet and American Indian policy expert. But he is so ignorant about policy, he's about as bad as Bush. Bush set the bar high for tolerance of stupidity for many years, now that everybody is sick of him, McCain coming along and acting like a dunce is a tired situation. I don't see him winning this thing. But if he does, wow, what a shame. God help us is right.
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:26 PM
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11. I felt exactly the same way as you do about the one we got now and he got in. |
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:12 PM
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8. You're right. He just sucks. |
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:17 PM
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At some point you have to just point out that the emperor has no clothes.
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:40 PM
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Edited on Wed Jul-16-08 09:52 PM by NYC_SKP
(Edited to reflect nothingness)
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:44 PM
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17. nothing to see here .... |
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Edited on Wed Jul-16-08 09:44 PM by AtomicKitten
Yep, the mods made quick work of that mess. Probably a -
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:49 PM
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not even a bloody stain remains...
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:37 PM
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14. I've said for a long time now that McSame's misrepresentation of "al-Qaeda" in Iran |
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and Sunni vs. Shia is purposefully done. If he repeats the lies over and over again, maybe Americans will be convinced that we need to stay in Iraq and invade Iran.
It's so mistake. It's saber rattling, pure and simple.
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:42 PM
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16. he conflates them for sure |
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The three reasons are: 1. He is ignorant and doesn't know. 2. He is senile and doesn't know. 3. He dues it on purpose for political reasons and because he wants to stay in Iraq and invade Iran.
Any or those three reasons is enough to disqualify him flat out from being CIC.
I used to think exactly like you did, that he does it on purpose, I think to an extent he does, but I also lean more to thinking he's just catastrophically ignorant on the issue. Like not knowing how social security works. I lean towards believing the guy just doesn't know much.
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Wed Jul-16-08 09:48 PM
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18. My father is about McCain's age, and he can't use a computer. |
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And I don't think he's ignorant or incurious.
But then again, my father isn't running to be President of the United States either.
But I agree with most of you say about McCain. He just isn't a good candidate.
I don't know where this whole "formidable" strong McCain media image has come from over the years. His campaign has been a complete disaster.
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Wed Jul-16-08 10:03 PM
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21. well yeah that's the thing |
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McCain has been in a job where you think he would have learned how to use a computer. Plus he's written books (supposedly) and op-eds etc. My dad is 67 and he doesn't know how to use a computer, but then again, he's run equipment, worked on oil rigs and been a farmer his whole life, it's not like he's ever had an office job. I have an great-uncle almost 80 who worked in government and as an educator and he learned how to use a computer, at some point during his career, and was about McCain's age when he started learning how to use the internet effectively.
Given the job he's had for the last 25 years and the one he's seeking now, the guy shouldn't be so ignorant. It's ridiculous.
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