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Sat Jul-19-08 07:41 PM
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Poll question: Do you think the GOP base will buy Romney as McCain's veep? |
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:44 PM
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1. The way this site is going, I'm surprised no one has suggested Romney for Obama's veep. |
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:48 PM
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4. Romney creeps me out on the red team. On the blue team, I'd have to |
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:38 PM
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:46 PM
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2. The fundies who already don't like McCain will like him less with a Mormon on the ticket n/t |
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:49 PM
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5. Hi, rox63. I thought the same. Maybe McCain thinks he can smooth |
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things over with the Dobson crowd, but they seem like a tough audience.
They're both stupid AND stubborn, and it just seems as if they will not buy a Mormon that close to real power.
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:48 PM
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3. Too many variables. Romney has the second most people... |
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But he could randomly pick Lieberman.
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:52 PM
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7. I haven't wrapped my brain around a McCain pick for Lieberman, |
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but you're right -- it might happen -- he could get even more desperate than he already is by the end of August or so, and his campaign team might sit him down in a Minneapolis hotel and say, 'Look, Senator, Obama's ahead in every single poll, including most of the swing states, Dem registation is way up, we're way down, the media is smelling blood in the water and at the moment it looks like an electoral college landslide for the Democrats. You might as well swing for the fences on your veep pick.'
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:53 PM
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10. Joe LIEs is sucking up for something - I wouldn't rule him out as a VP pick |
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:51 PM
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6. Romney is dangerous. We don't want him on the ticket |
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:53 PM
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8. I agree -- he is a dangerous man. He strikes me as being a department |
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store mannequin who somehow got up and left the dispay window and is out walking the streets.
He seems at once artificial and dangerous. Not an attractive combo.
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:56 PM
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13. He fooled plenty of voters here in MA with his looks and wealth. |
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He can do the same to the nation.
Do not underestimate him. Ever.
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:00 PM
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16. I don't underestimate him. But the creep quotient is VERY high. |
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:06 PM
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20. Creep is certainly evident, but too many voters can't see past the "glitz" |
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I've got a few in my family that swoon at the sight of him, in spite of the screwing he gave Massachusetts. He trots out that all-American looking family of his and they go weak in the knees.
Really sad, I'll tell ya.
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Sun Jul-20-08 12:07 AM
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38. I have to agree ~ please don't flame me |
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but I just keep on having this awful feeling that McShame knows he is losing it and that he will not be able to hang on until November.
So they "encourage" him to pick Romney for "Looks and Wealth" and for better or worse,McCain drops out and Romney runs against Obama.
Obama WINS but it will be a tougher race than McShame.
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:54 PM
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11. I agree with that. If I were McCain I wouldn't want him anywhere around |
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It would be VERY easy to bump him off and make it look age-related, and Romney "Dog on a Hot Tin Roof" is sleazy and evil enough to do it.
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:53 PM
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Edited on Sat Jul-19-08 07:55 PM by babylonsister
Seems they think they're fucked, so they no longer care. :evilgrin: I say bring on the used-car salesman. I'll never forget a line he said: I have economics in my DNA. Maybe we'll find out; he can't do worse than Gramm. I look forward to someone catching Romney off guard. I think McThuselah will continue to flail regardless of who he selects. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3646994
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:57 PM
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14. Hey there babylonsister. Agree -- there may not be one soul out there |
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who can actually help McCain in November.
It's more a case of some veep noms doing less damage than others.
Oddly enough, Jim Talent would be a perfect choice for McCain.
All the other likely picks have at least one major Achilles' heel.
Actually, I should say they're all heels, period.
:hi:
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:55 PM
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12. Which One Is Flip, Which One Is Flop? n/t |
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Sat Jul-19-08 07:59 PM
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15. McCain's flips and flops are coming at a dizzying rate these days. |
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Hi, Manny.
McCain's the flip-floppinest flap-jackin' yahoo to come along in the Republican presidential sweepstakes in some time. I think he's in for 3 or 4 real rough months, starting about now.
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:28 PM
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29. Yeah But The MittFlopper Ran To The Left Of Kennedy |
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When he ran for the Senate - like McCain, he's also been for and against everything at some point.
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:01 PM
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17. Maybe. I think many of them will have more confidence in him than in McCain. The conservative |
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evangelicals don't like either, so in that quadrant we would see no change.
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:05 PM
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19. Good point on the evangelicals. They're never been into McCain |
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and I can't imagine that Romney would be their first-tier pick either.
What a corner the GOP has painted itself into. If they nominate someone too crazy to ultra-pander to the evangelical nutbags, the electorate will turn away in significant numbers and the independent voters in particular in greater numbers.
If they thumb their noses at the fundies and nominate someone more electable, they lose because the fundies stay home in significant numbers.
And it's all their own doing.
I love it.
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:02 PM
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18. Depends on how the economy is |
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:06 PM
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21. It probably does. Do you think Romney helps or hurts McCain, if |
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the economy is no better then than now?
Would McCain be under greater pressure to choose someone like Rob Portman if the economy is just as weak the first week of September?
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:15 PM
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22. Romney is seen as having a good head for business and economics |
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where McCain doesn't.
I think he might be a likely pick, and that would put him into the catbird seat if Gramps were to bail out in '12.
I hope Romney is kept far away from anything to do with '08.
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:16 PM
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23. I strongly endorse your sentiment that Romney be kept far away |
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from real power.
The far side of Jupiter would be acceptable.
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:18 PM
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26. ...that's closer than I'd like, but I'll settle for it.. |
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:28 PM
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35. hmm thats a tough one |
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I honestly don't know.
one thing for sure, I think the Republican base really wants Romney on there.
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:17 PM
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24. Two GOP Robots running instead of one!! |
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We ... must ... get ... our ... bolts ... tight ... ened.
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:18 PM
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:23 PM
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28. McCain won the Michigan primary in 2000 against Dubya. |
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Romney's old man was Michigan's governor.
But putting Willard on the ticket with McCain now, IMO, still doesn't win Michigan for the GOP, and Massachusetts is out of the question.
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Sat Jul-19-08 08:32 PM
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30. Depends on which "base" you mean |
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Corporatists love Mittens, because he's one of them.
Fundies hate him because, as far as they're concerned, he's not. (More specifically, they think he worships a false god and will burn in Hell)
The Bush Crime Family, which has been the machine behind every Repuke presidency since Eisenhower, were early backers of Romney (at least the Jeb wing was)and his Bain Capital group has partnered up with the BCF/Carlyle Group on many occasions.
I guess two out of three ain't bad. McCain probably has as much of a problem winning these factions over anyway.
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Sat Jul-19-08 09:16 PM
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32. They will support anything in order to win. |
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Sat Jul-19-08 09:38 PM
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33. He'll pick up Huckabee |
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In an effort to shore up the "god and gays" portions of the "Guns, Gods, and Gays" voting block of the Republicna party.
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:20 PM
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34. Huckabee's likely still in the running. As little as I may like him -- |
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and I don't like him at all -- he would do what you say he would do, and McCain has to decide how hard he wants to fight for that demographic.
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:38 PM
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36. no, but i think McCain has kind of given up on the base |
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he seems to think he has more of a chance of winning traditionally Democratic voters like blacks , women and gays.
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Sat Jul-19-08 11:51 PM
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37. The base will take whatever scraps are flung their way. |
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It's the independents and moderates who will look at Romney and gag. There's only so much flip flopping one can do before those around him become nauseated.
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