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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:41 PM
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Poll question: Do you think the GOP base will buy Romney as McCain's veep?
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:44 PM
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1. The way this site is going, I'm surprised no one has suggested Romney for Obama's veep.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:48 PM
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4. Romney creeps me out on the red team. On the blue team, I'd have to
leave the country!
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:38 PM
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31. Yup.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:46 PM
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2. The fundies who already don't like McCain will like him less with a Mormon on the ticket n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:49 PM
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5. Hi, rox63. I thought the same. Maybe McCain thinks he can smooth
things over with the Dobson crowd, but they seem like a tough audience.

They're both stupid AND stubborn, and it just seems as if they will not buy a Mormon that close to real power.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:48 PM
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3. Too many variables. Romney has the second most people...
But he could randomly pick Lieberman.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:52 PM
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7. I haven't wrapped my brain around a McCain pick for Lieberman,
but you're right -- it might happen -- he could get even more desperate than he already is by the end of August or so, and his campaign team might sit him down in a Minneapolis hotel and say, 'Look, Senator, Obama's ahead in every single poll, including most of the swing states, Dem registation is way up, we're way down, the media is smelling blood in the water and at the moment it looks like an electoral college landslide for the Democrats. You might as well swing for the fences on your veep pick.'


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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:53 PM
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10. Joe LIEs is sucking up for something - I wouldn't rule him out as a VP pick
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:51 PM
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6. Romney is dangerous. We don't want him on the ticket
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:53 PM
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8. I agree -- he is a dangerous man. He strikes me as being a department
store mannequin who somehow got up and left the dispay window and is out walking the streets.

He seems at once artificial and dangerous. Not an attractive combo.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:56 PM
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13. He fooled plenty of voters here in MA with his looks and wealth.
He can do the same to the nation.

Do not underestimate him. Ever.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:00 PM
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16. I don't underestimate him. But the creep quotient is VERY high.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:06 PM
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20. Creep is certainly evident, but too many voters can't see past the "glitz"
I've got a few in my family that swoon at the sight of him, in spite of the screwing he gave Massachusetts. He trots out that all-American looking family of his and they go weak in the knees.

Really sad, I'll tell ya.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 12:07 AM
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38. I have to agree ~ please don't flame me
but I just keep on having this awful feeling that McShame knows he is losing it and that he will not be able to hang on until November.

So they "encourage" him to pick Romney for "Looks and Wealth" and for better or worse,McCain drops out and Romney runs against Obama.

Obama WINS but it will be a tougher race than McShame.

:shrug:
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:54 PM
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11. I agree with that. If I were McCain I wouldn't want him anywhere around
It would be VERY easy to bump him off and make it look age-related, and Romney "Dog on a Hot Tin Roof" is sleazy and evil enough to do it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:53 PM
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9. OTHER:
Edited on Sat Jul-19-08 07:55 PM by babylonsister
Seems they think they're fucked, so they no longer care. :evilgrin: I say bring on the used-car salesman. I'll never forget a line he said: I have economics in my DNA. Maybe we'll find out; he can't do worse than Gramm. I look forward to someone catching Romney off guard.
I think McThuselah will continue to flail regardless of who he selects.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3646994
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:57 PM
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14. Hey there babylonsister. Agree -- there may not be one soul out there
who can actually help McCain in November.

It's more a case of some veep noms doing less damage than others.

Oddly enough, Jim Talent would be a perfect choice for McCain.

All the other likely picks have at least one major Achilles' heel.

Actually, I should say they're all heels, period.

:hi:
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:55 PM
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12. Which One Is Flip, Which One Is Flop? n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 07:59 PM
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15. McCain's flips and flops are coming at a dizzying rate these days.
Hi, Manny.

McCain's the flip-floppinest flap-jackin' yahoo to come along in the Republican presidential sweepstakes in some time. I think he's in for 3 or 4 real rough months, starting about now.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:28 PM
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29. Yeah But The MittFlopper Ran To The Left Of Kennedy
When he ran for the Senate - like McCain, he's also been for and against everything at some point.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:01 PM
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17. Maybe. I think many of them will have more confidence in him than in McCain. The conservative
evangelicals don't like either, so in that quadrant we would see no change.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:05 PM
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19. Good point on the evangelicals. They're never been into McCain
and I can't imagine that Romney would be their first-tier pick either.

What a corner the GOP has painted itself into. If they nominate someone too crazy to ultra-pander to the evangelical nutbags, the electorate will turn away in significant numbers and the independent voters in particular in greater numbers.

If they thumb their noses at the fundies and nominate someone more electable, they lose because the fundies stay home in significant numbers.

And it's all their own doing.

I love it.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:02 PM
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18. Depends on how the economy is
when he chooses his VP.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:06 PM
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21. It probably does. Do you think Romney helps or hurts McCain, if
the economy is no better then than now?

Would McCain be under greater pressure to choose someone like Rob Portman if the economy is just as weak the first week of September?


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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:15 PM
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22. Romney is seen as having a good head for business and economics
where McCain doesn't.

I think he might be a likely pick, and that would put him into the catbird seat if Gramps were to bail out in '12.

I hope Romney is kept far away from anything to do with '08.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:16 PM
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23. I strongly endorse your sentiment that Romney be kept far away
from real power.

The far side of Jupiter would be acceptable.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:18 PM
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26. ...that's closer than I'd like, but I'll settle for it..
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:19 PM
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27. : )
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 11:28 PM
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35. hmm thats a tough one
I honestly don't know.

one thing for sure, I think the Republican base really wants Romney on there.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:17 PM
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24. Two GOP Robots running instead of one!!
We ... must ... get ... our ... bolts ... tight ... ened.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:18 PM
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25. LOL!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:23 PM
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28. McCain won the Michigan primary in 2000 against Dubya.
Romney's old man was Michigan's governor.

But putting Willard on the ticket with McCain now, IMO, still doesn't win Michigan for the GOP, and Massachusetts is out of the question.


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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 08:32 PM
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30. Depends on which "base" you mean
Corporatists love Mittens, because he's one of them.

Fundies hate him because, as far as they're concerned, he's not.
(More specifically, they think he worships a false god and will burn in Hell)

The Bush Crime Family, which has been the machine behind every Repuke presidency since Eisenhower, were early backers of Romney (at least the Jeb wing was)and his Bain Capital group has partnered up with the BCF/Carlyle Group on many occasions.

I guess two out of three ain't bad. McCain probably has as much of a problem winning these factions over anyway.
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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 09:16 PM
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32. They will support anything in order to win.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 09:38 PM
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33. He'll pick up Huckabee
In an effort to shore up the "god and gays" portions of the "Guns, Gods, and Gays" voting block of the Republicna party.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 11:20 PM
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34. Huckabee's likely still in the running. As little as I may like him --
and I don't like him at all -- he would do what you say he would do, and McCain has to decide how hard he wants to fight for that demographic.


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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 11:38 PM
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36. no, but i think McCain has kind of given up on the base
he seems to think he has more of a chance of winning traditionally Democratic voters like blacks , women and gays.

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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-19-08 11:51 PM
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37. The base will take whatever scraps are flung their way.
It's the independents and moderates who will look at Romney and gag. There's only so much flip flopping one can do before those around him become nauseated.
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