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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:46 AM
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Wolf to Condi this a.m."Have you decided who your going to vote for?"
She said yes.

Wolf then asked if she would tell us who she is voting for.

She said no.

Condi Rice has been a Bushie through and through, and a defender of his immoral war. Though it was interesting that at the very end of her interview on Late Edition this morning, she declined to say who she was voting for. This was on the heels of a compliment she paid to Barack (and Colin Powell) about breaking down barriers.

On one hand, who care who war enabler Condi votes for?

Yet she could have easily said I'm voting for McCain or the puke nominee, but she did not. What do think, is her "no" response worth reading anything thing into?
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:48 AM
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1. That's pretty funny.
I wonder if someone pissed her off.

Usually everyone is so loyal.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:33 PM
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15. I know right nt
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:50 AM
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2. no /nt
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:55 AM
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3. She is aware that serious Black Opinion Makers have considered her political decisions
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 11:56 AM by grantcart
to be a part of an almost psychopathic denial of her own racial identity.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/24/AR2005102401370.html

Like a lot of African Americans, I've long wondered what the deal was with Condoleezza Rice and the issue of race. How does she work so loyally for George W. Bush, whose approval rating among blacks was measured in a recent poll at a negligible 2 percent? How did she come to a worldview so radically different from that of most black Americans? Is she blind, is she in denial, is she confused -- or what?



So at this point when the African American community is approaching this election with a unique consensus, including numerous conservative Republican AA indicating that they are giving Obama serious consideration she does not want to fuel the psychological speculation of what is wrong with this woman who seems to live in denial of her roots and has no family life and no romantic attachments. By saying no she wants to stop people from speculating "What is wrong with this woman?". I would guess that would take her permanently off the VP list for McCain.

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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:00 PM
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9. Condi is an amazing woman who happens to be black..
I beleive her talents are so great that she can really float above having to account for her racial identity. She's been so busy acheiveing in her life that little thought has gone into these other issues.

I say cut her some slack. I empathize because I am black guy that has been called an "oreo" or accused of acting white. The truth is, I understand the reality of my skin color, but I want to be an individual.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:19 PM
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11. what achievements she may have had academically she has been a secretary of state
without distinction helping to bring the institution to its lowest morale in modern history.

She was the worst national security adviser in the history of that position. When In July 2001, the head of the CIA telephoned her and said there is something urgent I need to talk to you about and then rushed over to her to tell her that there was a huge spike in communication in Al Queda transmission she poo pooed it and did nothing to help prevent the 9/11 attacks. Taking over from the Clinton security adviser she repeatedly said that the Clintons had "Bin Laden on the brain" and was completely oblivious to the warnings that they passed on.

She was 100% on Iraq and almost certainly assisted in decieving the public about the real intelligence on weapons of mass destruction and shares criminal liability for the hundreds of thousands of needless deaths she caused there. No one will leave service in the government with more innocent blood on their hand than Rice.

What talents and accomplishments you refer to that out weigh this boggle the mind.

She has academic paper credentials but has never published any ground breaking material in peer review material. If she is an adequate lecturer she should have stayed with that but again there is no evidence that she did that particularly well and seems to fill that old adage "those that can't teach become administrators".

She seems to be an above average amatuer pianist. Is that what you are referring to.

The reality is that the academic AA community cannot fathom but her use of civil rights history to justify the invasion of Iraq, probably the most cynical use of iconic civil rights for partisan political purposes since the civil rights struggle started:
quote
When Rice invoked the civil rights movement to clarify her position on the invasion of Iraq, Margaret Kimberley, another writer for The Black Commentator, felt that her use of the rhetoric was "offensive." unquote


She gets no slack. However should a grand jury issue an indictment for her crimes she will be offered an attorney, something her rightwing friends would not have been in favor of extending to her Black neighbors who were arrested under Jim crow 40 years ago.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:22 PM
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12. What talents? What achievements?
She may've been a good academic, studying a nation that no longer exists, but I think she's certainly been undistinguished in her government career.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:38 PM
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16. Oh my god.
:wow:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:50 PM
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17. "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud"
Yes, Condoleezza Rice has great talents and has achieved a great deal. Unfortunately, her talents for lying and chimp fluffing her way through life are not ones that I admire.
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:51 PM
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18. Uh....Condi didn't achieve anything as National Security
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 02:52 PM by Jazzgirl
Adviser or Secretary of State. I'm a black woman and no way will I cut her any slack for her lack of imagination and skill. Apparently she was able to pass a lot of tests and get excellent grades. A lot of people can do that but she has very little talent. Even her doctoral dissertation was less than stellar. Her own music teacher in Denver said that she lacked the capacity to make people "feel" the music she played. What talent??? Besides that I could care less who she votes for.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:19 AM
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27. This isn't true
Her job was to ignore all other security threats and sell a crappy missile defense system to the American people and as many sucker nations as she could. She's done a good job doing it.
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:53 PM
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19. WTF...
CondiLIAR is only amazing in her hubris and willingness to lie, cheat, and steal, just like her "husband." She doesn't deserve any slack. What she deserves is to be tried for war crimes like the rest of that criminal gang.
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:54 PM
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20. Well guys, I did have a crush on her so it clouds my judgment a bit :) ...
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 02:55 PM by elkston
I am also a former piano student if that's worth anything.
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The Gunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 03:17 PM
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21. Yes. Very few have a talent to lie to American people like her nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:38 AM
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23. She's a LYING TOADY for BUSHCO who has helped forward the DEATH-CULT of the Head PSYCHOPATH.
"Cut her some slack", my ARSE.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 07:45 AM
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25. I can empathize with you, but Dr. Rice is different. She runs from her race.
That's different from being an individual. My life experiences have been similar to yours but I don't run from anything remotely culturally or uniquely black American. While the black community is hardly a monolith, we do share a common historical and societal perspective. Dr. Rice seems to be removed from that.

At any rate, I will always respect her for her accomplishments. I will never call her "Condi" because I know how it feels to achieve a doctorate only to have people disrespect you. I hate her ideology and she was complicit in this administration's crimes, but as a black woman myself, I honor what she has done for her life.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:16 AM
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22. What black people think of Bush
... has absolutely NO bearing on Condoleeza Rice and her willingness to be a Republican mouthpiece for this corrupt administration.

I don't care if black people in general gave George Bush a .0000002% or a 92% approval rating. We don't all think alike and it should have no bearing on Condoleeza's "worldview." She is an educated individual capable of making her own decisions and mistakes -- as is obvious by her current place of employment -- regardless of the ideals of a "unique black consensus."

Whoever wrote that needs to get out more.

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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 07:18 AM
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24. Condi is ...
the TEXTBOOK of someone who gets promoted for failure ...

Her only "gift" is her ability to not open her mouth and go for the ride ...
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 12:00 PM
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4. No, her vote means nothing in this. No one cares because she's part of the disease that aided in
marginalizing this nations economy and handicapping the infrastructure that is killing it's people. She's as bad as the rest in the Bush admin.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 12:03 PM
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5. War criminal that she was and is,
Obama cast one of his first votes as the newly-elected junior senator from Illinois to confirm her nomination as Secretary of State.

Perhaps Condoleezza's reticence is nothing more complicated than a simple payback.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 12:10 PM
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6. I remember in 2000 or 2004
Rush Limbaugh gushing about Mumsy and Poppy Bush having a photo-op where they put up a yard sign for W. the weekend before the election, talking about how loving parents they were. Several comedians, however, were of the opinion that instead of showing what great parents they were, it showed that W. was such a fuck-up that his parents only had just decided to support him just before the election. Condi, for whatever reason, has been loyal for 8 years to Bush, probably because like the rest of his staff, she's so incompetent that she couldn't get a real job. Anyway, whatever the reason, she's been around Bush for 8 years and while publicly appearing fiercely loyal, I think probably she realizes that she's wasted 8 years of her life defending a moron, and anyone with half a brain can see that McCain will be a continuation or escalation of Bush, which must give her pause.

TlalocW
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SDJay Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 12:17 PM
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7. I hold her
as responsible, if not more so, than anyone for 9/11. She was the friggin' NSA when it happened, she ignored direct warnings and she helped spin it afterwards. She's worthless.
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 12:36 PM
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8. So do I.
And welcome to the DU :hi:
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:13 PM
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10. Condi?
Shes one of the most incompetent people to have served in government in the past 230 years.

But her evilness makes up for her incompetence.

-90% Jimmy
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:28 PM
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13. A (small) part of me wishes Rice would have come out against Obama.
The black vote has been characterized by so many on the right and in the MSM to be racist in nature. Her reluctance to support "her" political candidate will just add fodder to their beliefs.

(Have to admit, though, I can not understand how anyone, black or white, could support 4 more years of what we have experienced these past 7).
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:31 PM
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14. I think we can guess who Wolfie is voting for
That McCain rendition of "bomb bomb bomb - bomb bomb Iran" sent shivers of sexual passion through Blitzer to his very core.
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PatGund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:30 AM
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26. I'm sure she'll vote for whoever her "husband" votes for
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:22 AM
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28. The secretary of state is traditionally above politics and so she was correct not to state her
preference.
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