Lieberman: Obama's Iraq Trip Only Possible Because of McCain

[WillyT]

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"Look, the fact is that if Barack Obama's policy on Iraq had been implemented, Barack Obama couldn't go to Iraq today, it wouldn't be safe," Sen. Joe Lieberman, Ind-Conn., told Chris Wallace this morning on "Fox News Sunday."

"Barack Obama, John McCain saw the same difficulty in Iraq," Lieberman argued, "John McCain had the guts to argue against public opinion, to put his whole campaign on the line because, as he says, he'd rather lose an election than lose a war that he thinks is this important to the United States..."

Lieberman continued: "Sen. McCain and I and others want us out of Iraq, sooner rather than later, but want us out in a way that does not compromise all the gains that American and Iraqi forces have made in Iraq ... And frankly, we want to stay there to a victory, because we don't want all those who have served in the American uniform there to have served, or in some cases died, in vain. Remember this, Chris, we wouldn't be having this discussion about how to get out unless the surge, which John McCain courageously fought for, taking on the president of his own party, popular opinion, risking his campaign, and which Sen. Obama opposed, worked. So, that's the good news."

And there's this charge as well: "If Barack Obama's policy in Iraq had been implemented, he couldn't be in Iraq today, is because he was prepared to accept retreat and defeat, and that would mean, today, al Qaeda would be in charge of parts of Iraq, Iranian-backed extremists would be in charge of other parts of Iraq. There'd be civil war and, maybe, even genocide. And the fact is that we are winning in Iraq today. And, you know, you can't choose, as Sen. Obama seems to think, to lose in Iraq so you can win in Afghanistan. The reality is, if we lost in Iraq, which Obama was prepared to do, we -- we would go to Afghanistan as losers."

This is basically the McCain spin on Obama's Iraq trip: picture Iraq if the U.S. had withdrawn its troops.

- jpt

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Link: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/07/lieberman-obama.html

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He is SO FULL OF SHIT, I don't know where to station his latrine!!!

[jaxx]

1. If the troops had been withdrawn, Obama wouldn't have to go to Iraq.

Lieberman is a republican shill.

[vaberella]

2. I was about to say....

By the way what's a "shill"? Someone called me that and I don't get it.

[jaxx]

9. Shill: someone who spreads the myths.

Pseudo Indy/Dem Lieberman spreading the repub myths.

[kentuck]

3. Because of the "surge"...

But, the violence had subsided before the "surge" had started. Because the Sunni had already decided to rid themselves of al Qaeda. Then it was another several months before the Administration would admit that the surge had been completed, because the troops were added piecemeal. The "surge" may have helped with the decrease in violence, but we really have no way of knowing? More probably, it was the supplemental appropriations of Congress to pay off the tribal leaders and their new security forces that led to the decrease in violence. But it is an effective piece of propaganda for Joe Lieberman and the Republicans to say that everything is the result of the "surge"...In my humble opinion, the truth is an entirely different matter.

[scarletwoman]

4. Joe, just shut the fuck up, you creepy whiny bag of skin!

Just looking at that ugly little fuckwad makes my blood pressure go up. And his whiny, nasally voice -- fingernails on a chalk board doesn't even come CLOSE to how grating it is!

I just pray for a big enough Dem majority in the next Senate so that they can kick his scrawny ass to the curb -- no committees for YOU, jerkoff!

sw

[BlooInBloo]

5. You mean if not for people like McCain, there wouldn't be a war in Iraq at all?

You might wanna lose that line of argumentation, Joe.

[Hamlette]

6. If we had implemented Obama's policy we wouldn't be in Iraq.

So he wouldn't be going there.

[vaberella]

7. When I first read the title I thought McCain paid for the fuel for the plane ride.

Lieberman is an ass. End of story. McCain was willing to stay in a war 100 years, now he wants to leave "sooner" rather than "later". he said we still had to fight. This is a war-monger, plain and simple and Lieberman is promoting this.

By the way, is it me or doesn't Lieberman sound either like McCain's wife or at least the Veep choice. Who is he in this campaign that he can speak so freely on behalf of McCain who IS the presumptive Republican nominee....that's a lot of power Lieberman dictates.

[IndianaGreen]

8. Holy Joe was always this sort of bloody bloke

The Left always hated his guts. It is the self-described centrists and moderates that are now beginning to see Holy Joe for what he really is. He never changed!