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Mon Jul-21-08 11:57 PM
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What state will be Obama's biggest upset? |
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My gut is telling me he could pull off Georgia. There is a huge black population that has not been tapped before. Add in a number of new white voters as well and perhaps 5% of the veteran voters changing to our side plus Bob Barr taking 3 to 5% from McCain and we may have a huge upset.
Name your upset state.
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Mon Jul-21-08 11:58 PM
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1. The Republican State of Denial. /nt |
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Tue Jul-22-08 07:22 AM
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THe Nation had an article about turning Texas Blue. That would be a great upset.
And, Alaska, for the size.
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Tue Jul-22-08 07:52 AM
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52. That would make me sooooooo happy. |
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Mon Jul-21-08 11:59 PM
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he will flip florida thats what im working towards
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:01 AM
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5. He's not getting Texas; he's unlikely to get Florida . . . |
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So the biggest upset is the one everyone is tentatively predicting already: formerly all-red Virginia.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:02 AM
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Tue Jul-22-08 06:54 AM
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45. Better Check FLA again, Pot-no! |
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He'll carry Sunshine Land by a comfortable 100K Take It to the Bank.
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Tue Jul-22-08 06:30 PM
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54. Could be. I'm just not banking on it, for the following reasons: |
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1) The 'Licans still control the voting systems 2) Crist is considered less odious than some other 'Licans and -- even if he is distracted by being McCain's veep -- will be paying close attention to the election-stealing process 3) Florida 'Licans at the local organizer level are meaner than other places.
If it's an Obama blowout (40-states, 400 electoral votes), then Florida will be in his column. Otherwise it's going to be a tough slog.
I don't think he *needs* Florida in the way that Kerry or Gore did, however . . .
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:02 AM
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6. The Former Dixie States |
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are more likely to have a discrepancy between polls and actuals due to unspoken racism.
I will go with Montana.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:03 AM
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9. I think he is leading in Montana right now. Probably a good bet. nt |
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:03 AM
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8. Obama will carry Indiana! |
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Since polls close at 6 PM in Indiana, this longtime red state will turn blue in November, becoming the first state to go in Obama's column.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:06 AM
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14. Indiana would be interesting to carry |
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It's always been a big red sore in a sea of blue up there in the upper Midwest. If Obama were to take Indiana, that would really be something.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:17 AM
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23. Those Chicago suburbs might be enough for him |
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He did do well there against Clinton and its right next to Illinois. That might be a sleeper.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:04 AM
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All the above mentioned, and a couple others are possible. It will only take one of them to explode many right-wing pea brains, and it will be so so so much fun. Here's hoping.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:07 AM
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15. any formerly solid red state would be gravy to me n/t |
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:07 AM
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He's going to run the table.
I told someone tonight that America is ready for a "Monty Python Moment". What? I said it. A "Monty Python Moment".
"And NOW something completely different"
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:07 AM
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17. Georgia? I would be incredibly shocked... I say Virginia |
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Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 12:08 AM by adoraz
As much as I would love for Obama to win Georgia, I just can't see it happening.
I have a feeling Barr will not do as well in states like Georgia as he is right now.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:10 AM
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20. Big Dog carried Georgia in 1992 |
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I think I give more credence to Barr's run than you do; My Sources (tm) say Ron Paul will be carrying some water for Barr in the fall.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:16 AM
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22. Big Dog isn't black though |
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I lived in Georgia for 8 years, in both the suburbs near Atlanta and a very small town. There were a lot of great people there, but I saw way too much to tell me that Obama won't win there.
I think all those people going for Barr now will end up going for McCain once they realize Barr has no shot.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:19 AM
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24. What % of Georgia's population do you think is prejudice? |
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Even if it's 35% chances are 99% of that 35% votes Republican anyway.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:22 AM
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26. you got a point, but that 35% might come out extremely strong |
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Currently McCain leads in Georgia, and until I see polls with Obama leading, I can't believe it will happen.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:27 AM
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29. I have no idea if he can pull it off but I was trying to pick a state that is possible |
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and would be a huge upset.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:30 AM
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32. Well if it does happen, your pick will probably win as biggest upset |
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If we win Georgia, we will win overall. :)
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:28 AM
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31. actually thinking it over, the problem I have with this |
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is states such as Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, etc. Hillary ALWAYS won with whites by an overwhelming majority. These were Democrats voting, and I can't believe that all of them were supporting Hillary because of her policies. That couldn't have been a coincidence. It was always a gigantic gap in those states.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:19 AM
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25. But a third of Georgia is |
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I don't know when you were there, but ATL (and all of north/coastal Georgia, for that matter) has changed drastically in the past decade or so.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:23 AM
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27. I lived there in the early to late 90s |
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Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 12:25 AM by adoraz
so I guess you're right... but I still won't believe it til I see it happen.
It would be pretty awesome though.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:07 AM
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I didn't believe it until recently.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:09 AM
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19. Texas? North Dakota? Georgia? Indiana? Arizona? |
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You know, the biggest upset would be to take Arizona. It would not be impossible considering his strength in surrounding states. What a message that would send!
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:13 AM
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I would love to see us take McSame's own state. He's already polling under 50% there.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:25 AM
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28. I have hometeam syndrome......I must say Ohio. |
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I think it is in the water.
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Tue Jul-22-08 12:31 AM
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33. As long as he gets 270, everything else is gravy |
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Tue Jul-22-08 01:02 AM
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35. I think it will be florida |
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Tue Jul-22-08 01:38 AM
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37. I thought he pulled off Georgia in the Primaries, and I know Georgia is a gimme. W. VA is my bet... |
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Tue Jul-22-08 02:27 AM
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38. I think Florida is most logical for a true upset |
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McCain is basically a 60/40 favorite right now, but the state's partisan index combined with Obama's national lead means the state should tilt slightly blue.
Some of these nominations are technically not upsets. Believe it or not, Obama is a 60/40 Intrade favorite right now in Virginia.
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Tue Jul-22-08 02:37 AM
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39. You need to define what you mean by upset |
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1) in comparison with 2004
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2) in comparison with say Jan 2008
If #1 then I have to say Indiana
If # 2 Georgia - could be won if there is a big vote registration and GOTV
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Tue Jul-22-08 02:38 AM
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A lot of upset folks there and in Missouri.
Montana will go for Obama, but that's not really unexpected anyway.
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Tue Jul-22-08 05:34 AM
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42. From what I'm seeing and hearing in North Carolina he could win the Old North State. |
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Tue Jul-22-08 07:16 AM
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46. Obama will hit the Ohio-Pennsylvania-Florida trifecta |
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And winning Georgia would be a huge upset!
:hi:
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Mark my words! The demographics are different. The AZ media HATES McSame. Always has! He has never had serious contention in that state and now he does! AZ governor is very popular and Napolitano will be a great help to the O-Man!
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Virginia, Colorado, Missouri, Iowa and Ohio. Right there is over 60 electoral votes.
I'd give a even odds on Georgia and Florida if Barr starts gaining popularity with conservatives. (that would add another 38)
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