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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:28 AM
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McCain Adviser Points to 2020 Iraq Withdrawal Date
Reality? They don't need any stinkin' reality!

McCain Adviser Points to 2020 Iraq Withdrawal Date


Wow, this may be the stupidest thing in the entire world (politically speaking).

Max Boot, one of John McCain's top foreign policy advisers, is now pointing to reports that 2018 or 2020 are more realistic dates for American withdrawal from Iraq than 2010.

As we've heard ad nauseum, McCain's position is that there should not be a timetable, so Boot isn't saying that McCain is proposing those dates as goals or targets. But what he is saying is that the practical implication of McCain's policy of open-ended commitment is that American troops would not be able to withdraw from Iraq until 2018 or 2020.

Here's the relevant portion of Boot's missive, which was intended to clarify Nuri al-Maliki's embrace of Barack Obama's withdrawal timetable (emphasis added):

{Senator McCain} has been arguing for a “conditions based” withdrawal as opposed to the fixed timetable demanded by Obama. If Iraqis are ready to assume all responsibility for security by 2010, then it would be perfectly fine to withdraw most U.S. troops, and no doubt President McCain would do so. But it’s dangerous to commit to such a rigid timetable when it’s impossible to envision what the situation will look like at that time. Officers in the Iraqi Security Forces, who have a closer day to day view of the situation than does the Prime Minister, are not sanguine that a turnover by 2010 will be possible.

A recent Washington Post story contains this quote :

We hope they will stay until 2020,” said Brig. Gen. Bilal al-Dayni, a commander in the southern city of Basra, where about 30,000 Iraqi soldiers patrol the streets after a major offensive in March against extremist militias.


That matches the views of Iraq’s defense minister, Abdul Qadir. Earlier this year the New York Times quoted him as follows :

The Iraqi defense minister said Monday that his nation would not be able to take full responsibility for its internal security until 2012, nor be able on its own to defend Iraq’s borders from external threat until at least 2018.


As you can see, Boot is arguing that in the context of McCain's policy, 2010 is not a realistic date for American withdrawal. Rather, Boot's view is that estimates of 2018 and 2020 are more plausible.

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http://www.jedreport.com/2008/07/mccain-adviser.html
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:34 AM
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1. If Iraq is a sovereign nation with a democratically elected government and they tell us to leave,
then we should leave. Otherwise we are simply an army of forced occupation and the rest of the nations of the world should take note, and probably already have.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:35 AM
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2. Flame away, but the harsh reality is this:
Most likely McCain won't be alive in 2020. I don't know many people who would be willing to follow a strategy from a person who most likely would never be able to see it through.

McCain is better off sticking with his ambiguous "conditions based" withdrawl than this crap.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:42 AM
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3. 12 years?????
Do they WANT to lose? No one in their right mind wants to stay in Iraq for 12 more years. We haven't had a war that lasted that long since the Middle Ages.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:50 AM
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5. Do they WANT to lose? Hmmm. Who knows? Did this guy speak
w/o permission, are they grasping at straws? I no longer have a clue what their motives are. :shrug:
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World Citizen Donating Member (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:47 AM
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4. hundred years johnny
is changing his position again???????????? ... the sign of a true leader
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