I am very doubtful that the GOP will allow McSame to be their nominee

[tyedyeto]

In the smoke-filled (figuratively speaking) back rooms, I believe the mucky-mucks of the GOP will disqualify him because of his gaffes, age, and so on. They will then place into nomination someone they believe can actually win in November.

Anyone else on this page with me?

[saltpoint]

1. I agree that McCain's something of a miserable wretch and a laughable

and arguably unstable old crank, but I think the Pukes are stuck with him until they lose officially on election night in November.

[opihimoimoi]

7. Yup...the Pubs are moving on to 2012...McBush is now under the Bus

[saltpoint]

9. I think that's a reliable insight. Thick as they often are, even the

Republicans can see that McCain will have to struggle just to compete in some of the Western states, and that Virginia looks wobbly as well, and Obama leads in Ohio.

Obama leads in New Mexico and I believe in Colorado as well.

With Kerry/Edwards' electoral vote totals, plus the new states he leads in now, Obama wins the presidency in 4 months.

McCain loses.

McCain's staff must realize how steep a climb this is for their guy.

And so I think you're right -- the GOP has moved on to 2012.

[opihimoimoi]

11. They put up a front, pretend they still back the dude, but the passion is extinct.

[brooklynite]

2. You're forgetting something, they don't HAVE someone else...

McCain didn't WIN the nomination as much as everyone else LOST...the whole slate of prospects are equally incompetent, scandal-ridden, gaffe-prone, or unacceptable to one of they key Republican constituencies.

[ChazII]

5. Accurate observation. n/t

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

6. Seriously. My reaction to the OP was also, "who've they got?"

[JPettus]

32. Condi

If she would accept the nomination.

With the idea that she would appeal to both women and minorities.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

33. A single, black Neocon woman? Obama would clean her clock in 50 states.

[JPettus]

34. I wouldn't count on it.

She will appeal to women voters and also to minorities.

She's not considered a neocon outside of political circles and the vast majority of voters aren't following political circles. (I don't really consider her a neocon either, so much as an opportunist)

She would appeal more to conservatives than McCain.

And, she would be a more popular choice overall than McCain.

Now, would Obama still win? I think so. I think the voters are really ready for a change in philosophy and direction and many would still consider Condi part of the failed Bush Administration. But the more pragmatic middle of the road voters might see her as "not Bush" and therefore not as toxic a choice, and for someone leaning right or outright conservative, she's a better choice than Obama, who they see as leaning left or outright liberal.

[davidpdx]

15. I think it would be interesting if it happened, there is

no precedent for replacing someone after the person has gained enough delegates. I disagree with you that they could conceivably pull off the switcharoo at the convention all McCain would have to do is tell his delegates to support the new nominee. However, they will probably suffer a worse loss if they do it.

[Buck Rabbit]

20. Matbe Dick Cheney will invite him on a hunting trip.

But seriously, McCain is the sacrificial goat. They had to run someone who has no 2012 potential to take their beating and they don't like him anyhow.

And really do they want a Republican to win, this time? The economy is crashing and the oil problem isn't artificially created like it was in the 70s.

The next President faces an onslaught of no win scenarios to deal with.

[opihimoimoi]

3. WE WANT BAUER...WE WANT BAUER...get GARY ...He can do it

Nope, that would be a lead baloon...

Who would fill the gap???

Ole Hucky

Mitt?

They are FUCKED

[cali]

4. not this ridiculous crap again

just who the hell can the mucky-mucks replace him with at this very late date who has anymore of a chance than McCain?

McCain is the repuke nominee. The convention is only a month away. No one will replace him.

[NanceGreggs]

8. Uh, they don't HAVE anybody they believe can win ...

... or we would have seen him long before now. Do you honestly think the GOP would have allowed McCain to get this far into the campaign if they actually had someone better?

[saltpoint]

10. Sounds right to me, since McCain almost won by default.

Rudy Giuliani held the polling lead for most of 2007 by a convincing margin, then backed out of Iowa, then backed out of New Hampshire, etc.

Pretty soon we saw footage of Rudy and his 3rd or 4th or 5th wife in Florida, in the Everglades, on one of those swamp-blaster boats they have. Evidently this was not quite enough to win the Florida primary.

Romney won some caucuses and primaries, but he lost a good handful, too, despite being flush with cash. I think the creep-out factor works against him. Republicans must look at him and say, "My, isn't he handsome? But why does he have fangs?"

Well, they still have Gary Bauer, the fundamenalist fireball, and Alan Keyes, Mr. Haldol.

Hiya, Nance. Good to see ya!

[NanceGreggs]

18. Hey, friend!!!

Good to see ya, too!

:hi:


I remember checking out the Freeper-type websites months ago, when they were all sportin' Fred Thompson sig lines. You remember him - he was the guy who was going to turn it all around for the GOP!

[saltpoint]

26. LOL! Yep. Fred came in sizzlin' like a hotcake and got stacked up with

yesterday's dishes in a big hurry.

He was battling a huge charisma deficit.

[CitizenLeft]

30. "My, isn't he handsome? But why does he have fangs?"

:rofl:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

12. Newt!

:woohoo:

[puerco-bellies]

13. They don't care what turd fronts for them.

They still are keepers of the voter roles, and they count the votes. They had a dreadful sack of shit heading the ticket 8 years ago, and here we are again.

[SoCalDem]

14. Ta-dahhhhhh

[Whisp]

16. has anything like this happened before?

it just seems way too late to change horses in this race. :shrug:

[Agent William]

17. For them it is irrelevant

If they can steal the election it doesn't matter who/what they have running on the ticket. As long as you have polls that make it look as though there is a dead-heat, the general population will except any repulican't no matter who it is. If bush can be put into office in less than legitimate elections so can McLame.

[chknltl]

19. Tinfoil theory: Mitt Romney is the VP pick, then mCcain....

...is sadly forced to step aside in mid September for health reasons due to Alzheimer's disease. The newly discovered disease (real or faked) will be used to explain all his gaffs present and forthcoming. (You know he's saving the best ones up for later...just before he is forced to step down he will appear on Larry King wearing a Master Chief Armor outfit boasting how he can now get through World Of Warcraft in extreme mode in a week or less on PSP!*)

These many months of gaffs, which the MSM will all but ignore, will have lulled the Democratic base into believing that this election is sooooooooo in the bag...most of us by then will have all but given up on any active campaigning, spending the time instead working out car pool arrangements in order to make it to DC for the inauguration party.

With mCcain safely tucked away in one of Walter Reed's padded rooms, Mitt will re-energize the re-puke party plus bring in the sympathy votes from fence sitters who feel CNN is a fair and balanced place to get one's news. We Dems are then forced to get back to working on a REAL campaign against a far more tougher adversary with little time left. That will make the election quite close come November, close enough for diebold to work its necromancy...

Oh and worse, the mittster picks darth cheney to be his chief adviser and phil graham as his VP after diebold gives him that close win. Many a good DUer will be found in local hospital ERs the next morning with forks stuck deeply in their heads!


OK so all snark aside, I have lately been thinking that mCcain may indeed step aside before November for 'health reasons'. I feel the reason for this is that the repukes will select a replacement we are not prepared for with precious little time to work/campaign against him. (Oh and I think it may be a Mitt Romney-Condi Rice ticket)

*(For those with real lives: 'Master Chief' IS a character in the video game series 'HALO'...NOT 'World of Warcraft' and neither game is available for the 'PSP'.)

[Cha]

21. Yeah, mccain isn't a straight talker anymore

but there's no way they can get rid of him now..the repub people have spoken.

[MonkeyFunk]

22. As long as he's alive

he'll be the nominee. It's not like they have anybody else who's a clear better choice.

[AZBlue]

23. I think he's EXACTLY what they want this year.

They know they can not possibly win in 08. So, they need to run someone who's so obviously not qualified - that way it's more a reflection on McCain than on the GOP when he loses every state in November (including Arizona).

[vaberella]

24. You're not the only one. I've been feeling the Repub seat was gonna be highjacked.

[KurtNYC]

25. I won't be losing any sleep over this

hope you aren't either.

[RoyGBiv]

27. Nope ...

And I'm really bored with this theory.

[BlooInBloo]

28. Sorry. I'm not a big believer in making random shit up just because it sounds good.

[onenote]

29. if people are going to post silly conspiracy theories, I wish they'd get some new ones

How many times have we seen this one?

[Hieronymus]

31. Yes

[grantcart]

35. If there is a change for the ticket in November it means that they are conceeding

defeat this time and want to annoint the new leader so that they can start early for 2012.


There is no way that the American People are going to buy a change after a being in the process for a year.


It would mean a 50 state sweep.


But it wouldn't be completely stupid - as it now exists after November 5th they are a party without a leader and with no direction and would just start infighting between the Number 2s.


If I was a Republican deal maker I would support the change take the loss and just try and position the challenger to have a good image - not go negative and then hope the economy takes a 4 year dive.

Bring back the good guy and run him as a guy that can fix the economy.


In the meantime this year put all your efforts saving as many Senate seats as they can.

[madrchsod]

36. mittens is still around ...but

i`m going for the "wait till 2012" crowd on this one. the rethugs have no one at this time to run against the strengths of obama. there`s a new crop of young rethugs that are not quite ready for prime time.

we must remember that the rethugs need a democratic president to restore the economy so they can loot it again when they take power...

[Marrah_G]

37. I don't understand how they could keep him as nominee

Especially after this week, unless they know they are going to lose this year and he is a sacrifice candidate.

[tekisui]

38. I don't think there is a "plan" to change horses,

but, I wouldn't be surprised if mccain had a real health issue. He does not look well, and seems to be getting worse. He acts defeated, stumbly, confused and is slurring his speech. I think he is definitely suffering from some kind of prolonged illness.

This is an intense campaign, especially for a 72 year old, 4 time cancer patient, 5 year POW.

[OmahaBlueDog]

39. I was with you, but here's what I think now

1. His veep is auditioning to run against Jeb in '12 for the nomination
2. Whether he'll admit it or not, McSame, if elected, won't run in '12
3. If the had a better pick, I'd agree; however, he is currently their contender with the fewest drawbacks. They initially thought Rudy couldn't miss (too liberal for them and too focused on one issue), then they thought Romney (until the evangelical base turned their back on him), and then they thought Fred Thompson would be the new Reagan (he wasn't). Seriously, I think their next most popular pick at this point is Ron Paul.

[raebrek]

40. Tortoise and the Hare.

I would not count McStammer out. Don't think this is over yet. Keep pushing, keep up the fight because we don't want to loose by knock out in the last round because something slipped by us. It is dangerous to think that it is inevitable. hence the subject: "Tortoise and the Hare."

Raebrek!!!