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Wed Jul-23-08 06:36 PM
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A bad habit I wish Obama could break is his very frequent use of uh. I'm not trying to be mean but I |
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think to some people it might make him look unsure. Especially because he is known for his great speeches. But when just talking he constantly uses uh in his pauses. It was really bad tonight in the Charlie Gibson (asshole)interview.
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:37 PM
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1. oh jeebus. this 'uh' concern again?! |
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:37 PM
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2. uh , duly noted, my friends |
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:37 PM
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3. I agree. I think it is because he is trying to be very careful |
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about what he says. But it is annoying.
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:39 PM
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He does use 'uh' too much. In this single respect, he reminds me of Bush.
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:45 PM
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9. You think Bush talks like a professor? |
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:47 PM
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11. HE, unlike BUSH, is THINKING while speaking and follows his "uhs" with intelligent responses. n/t |
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Thu Jul-24-08 08:16 AM
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67. That's the way it appears to me.. |
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he's not just parroting off a teleprompter, which is what we're used to. The words are actually coming out of his brain. It seems MORE natural to me.
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:38 PM
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5. I agree. I also wish he would speak more directly. |
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He talks like a professor, and as a retired prof, I'm very familiar with the wordage.
Too wordy, too many prepositions. He needs to speak more efficiently, using fewer words, and he'll be easier for everyone to understand.
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Thu Jul-24-08 07:24 AM
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63. LOL!!! That would be ME. I'm always a tired professor but I don't use "uh" that much... |
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:39 PM
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6. Listen to Mike Malloy sometime. |
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Even for someone with years of experience speaking in public, this is not an easy habit to break.
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:22 PM
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27. Or Randi. My fiance and I sometimes get to giggling when she hesitates and wind up |
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having to change the station or drive off the road.
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:31 PM
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42. There are a lot of people in radio who "uh" |
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but if what they have to say is worth it, you get over it. In television, you have to be a lot smoother.
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:40 PM
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8. It's actually a sign of intelligence |
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it gives him time to think about what he is going to say next. He could lose the "uhs" and speak much faster, but he would no doubt have to give pat, stock, scripted answers to everything (which is how many politicians do it; they simply won't answer a new or slightly different question, but rather reframe the question and go right back to a scripted answer).
I really appreciate that Obama truly answers questions, and does it thoughtfully.
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:47 PM
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13. He needs to learn how to just pause and not say "uh" |
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it is a problem that he should work on and most likely realizes.
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:51 PM
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16. Yes, this is what I was trying to say. Thank you. nt |
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:20 PM
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25. Agreed. A pause is better. I'm surprised he didn't get groomed out of that a long time ago. |
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:46 PM
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31. I know, it's a shame this habit has kept him from being taken seriously |
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:20 PM
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:24 PM
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28. Pause, for effect. n/t |
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:44 PM
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48. well in my family a pause is an invitation to get interrupted. |
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better to fill it with uhs. :)
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Wed Jul-23-08 09:01 PM
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you've got to talk fast or fill in with "uhs" if you want to get it all out before being cut off. :yoiks: :D
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:25 PM
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37. Yeah yeh, that's the "rule" |
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In real life, that can be as uncomfortable for the listener as it is for the "pauser". Because the reality is, he's *not* intentionally "pausing". Therefor he should not pepper his speeches with intentional "pauses" just to avoid an "uh". It would frankly be weird, and what would happen, and does happen, is that speakers simply then rely on scripted answers, rather than leaving uncomfortable silence gaps.
He's doing just fine.
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:32 PM
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And I don't much mind "uh".
What drives me up a wall though are those who insist on sprinkling "you know" and "like" into every conversation!
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:46 PM
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10. You should have heard Trudeau speak |
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Possibly Canada's greatest Prime Minister, he would give long, philsophical speeches punctuated by what I called a "continuence tone", not really an "uh" but just a held note indicating that he continued to want to speak. I suspect in his case it was a French-speaking thing.
People are tired of "just plain folks" leaders. Let's have somebody with some actual brain power run things for awhile.
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:47 PM
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but I have noticed that he has gotten better. Personally I find the excessive use of "uh" very distracting in anyone. It is especially annoying in television news people whose career is speaking publicly on a daily basis.
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:47 PM
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14. Better O's uh's than mcelmer's d'uh's. nt |
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:50 PM
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15. I guess you are too young to remember JFK? |
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He was constantly saying ah ah ah and er er er when responding to questions, especially at pressers. It is a way to buy time to formulate careful responses. It is just another way that Obama is like JFK---thoughtful and deliberate.
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:54 PM
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17. Yea, Rush has the same concern. |
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Not calling you out, just stating a fact.
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:03 PM
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20. Rush stutters like Porky Pig |
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:47 PM
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51. Someone should put together a tape of Rush's stutters |
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Thu Jul-24-08 07:17 AM
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60. That would be good. He does have a genuine speech problem |
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Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 07:17 AM by Lastlaughin08
aside from the fact his mouth is too big for his pea-sized brain.
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Wed Jul-23-08 06:54 PM
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18. We do that all the time in the midwest, even more so in |
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Minnesota.. the old habit our Mothers went after us with.. Think before you speak. I do it all the time myself. I know it can be annoying to someone not used to it. Its just who we are. I live in Iowa and my hubby is a Minnesotan.. Uff duh, ya sure by golly.
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:54 PM
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34. I've said that so much that I was just going to let it ride this time. |
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Yes in the mid-west we do use 'uh' a lot when pausing to think. Illinois here, and it does not bother me at all. My daughter complains but then she would. ;)
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:32 PM
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Yep my uncle lives in Illinois, and "well" (another great pause think word)"uhh" I never notice it myself till "uhh" someone points it out ;)
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:47 PM
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50. "well" is probably my favorite one to use. |
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I use it all the time and have had to learn not to follow it with "actually", which means I'm thinking about correcting or adding on to what has been said. I'm an awful "know it all" and I know it, which makes me a true "know it all". At least that is what they tell me. :D
Actually I know I don't know it all, but come across as one. Oh, my goodness that just makes me more of a "know it all" than ever. Well actually.....:rofl:
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Wed Jul-23-08 09:01 PM
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56. how about.. "if the truth be known... actually" |
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what was that old Kurt Vonnegut chestnut.."I'm a Hoosier, you're' a Hoosier".. look out Washington, here comes the Midwest. Now if we can get all our congresspeople, to stop and think before they blurt something out..
"Mr. Speaker...uhhhhhh":rofl:
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:00 PM
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19. After 8 years of listening to George trying to spit out a sentence I'll take it. |
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Not to mention his demonesque little "heh heh heh's" and other assorted verbal nonsense.
I see where you're coming from, but I just don't care. It's...uh...change I can...uh...believe in! :D
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:06 PM
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21. At least it buys him time to think before speaking... |
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I'm glad he's cautious in what he says, since everything gets spun.
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:14 PM
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22. Most Lawyers do that. Particularly in meetings. Its thinking before you speak |
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:15 PM
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23. It is an annoying habit and something that we were taught not to do in high school speech class. |
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A pause, without the uh, would be better.
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:25 PM
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39. everything you learned in school is wrong. |
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:17 PM
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24. I hear you but after 8 years of fuckin stupid Obama can say what he wants honestly. |
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:43 PM
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29. I don't even notice anymore, and can't figure why it's a big deal |
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lots of pols do this - Hillary was even worse. the uhs are not important, the words in between are.
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:52 PM
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54. actually Hillary doesn't do that. |
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She was fantastic about off the cuff answers without pausing or saying uh.
Frankly, I'm a little suspicious about people with that kind of ability.
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Thu Jul-24-08 08:16 AM
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68. I've heard her 'uh' a lot of times in her speeches. |
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short off the cuffs are a bit different that full out speeches. Usually snappy retorts are memorized for whatever occassion comes up to use them so there's not much thinking to do, just memorizing, so therefore they are usually 'uhless'.
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:51 PM
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32. He can say "uh" as often as he likes, afaic |
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I'd trade a lifetime's worth of Obama's "uh"s if it meant I'd never have to hear another moronic word out of der Chimpenführer's cakehole again.
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My college public speaking prof said to say "ahhh" in place of "uhhh" if you have to say "uhhh," because the former doesn't strike people as a sign of low intelligence like the latter does.
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Wed Jul-23-08 07:57 PM
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35. It doesn't bother me. |
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as much as someone who doesn't say it because he's not thinking. (uh...McCain)
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:27 PM
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40. I suppose if he needs a minute he could eat a Twix, but he would gain a lot of weight by nov. |
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:29 PM
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41. It used to bother me. |
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But the more I began to like him, the less I noticed it. But I do understand what you mean.
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:34 PM
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45. He probably doesn't know he's doing it. My speech teacher used to just raise a finger each time. |
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Once people catch themselves doing it, they stop pretty quickly.
Don't law students do debating? He should have learned that there.
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:38 PM
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46. He needs to go to Toastmasters. |
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Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 08:39 PM by rusty_parts2001
They have "uh" counters and if you start listening for them you will notice how many politicians use it. Probably it has never been brought to his attention. Once you are aware of it, you stop or at least reduce using it as a crutch.
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:41 PM
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47. If I were him I would be careful too! |
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The way the media is on his every word and waiting on him to make a verbal mistake, I'd say "uh" too just to collect my thoughts for the next sentence.
How would people react if he were to say something that could be easily taken out of context, and for the next 3 weeks will be the lead story. He has his thoughts, it is just putting them together so that they won't be taken the wrong way. I believe he has to be careful that way.
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:45 PM
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49. It is SO MUCH BETTER than having someone speak without thinking |
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at all. This small verbal tic just reminds me of that.
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are you thinking what I'm thinking....
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:47 PM
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52. He's thinking .... That's a good thing. |
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Wed Jul-23-08 08:51 PM
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53. I'm not surprise by this type of advice |
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after listening to Commander Joker for 8 years talk gibberish ofcoure you will get confused with an eloquent speaker by not understanding that well educated people speak like that because they are expose to multiple vocabulary at the same time and have to choose the right word of response for the question being asked, also you want your listener to understand your point in depth.
Hope this helps....
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Thu Jul-24-08 07:22 AM
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61. "well educated people speak like that." "Uh" is not a defining characteristic. It means one needs to |
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remain silent while thinking.
"UH" is why I cannot abide Brian williams or (Chef) Alton brown.
It's Speech 101, FGS.
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Wed Jul-23-08 09:06 PM
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58. yeah, JFK did that too |
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Wed Jul-23-08 09:11 PM
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59. Funny this becomes a big issue for you today the same day it goes up on Rush's website |
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Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 09:22 PM by CreekDog
just funny, that's all.
(i don't mean to accuse, but to feed the frenzy right at the moment the right wing is trying to make this into an issue it's just bad timing).
it would be like if after that debate between Gore and Bush when all of Bush's nonanswers took second place to Gore's "sighs" and that was when we all chose to have a nice discussion about how Gore sighs too much.
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Thu Jul-24-08 07:22 AM
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62. I must admit that it can be annoying sometimes. It makes him come off as unsure. |
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If it was one thing Hillary is brilliant at is speaking confidently especially when explaining policy positions during a debate. I may not have agreed with her on a number of issues, but she is a very articulate and "quick on her feet" when it comes to speaking. I think Obama has to work on this more. The good news is that McSame is a horrible speaker so that gives Obama some cover. But yes, I could count the number of pauses and "uhs" when discussing specific policies and it makes him appear as if he doesn't know what he really wants to say. It's definitely something that he needs to work on.
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Thu Jul-24-08 07:49 AM
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64. He's THINKING..I know it's been a long time. |
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Thu Jul-24-08 07:51 AM
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65. If *this* is O's biggest problem then we're, uh, good to go! /nt |
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Thu Jul-24-08 08:13 AM
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66. I agree that he uses it too much, but you have to admit he has |
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to be very careful with every word that comes out of his mouth. people will even take words and say that he was implying something, so I can understand that he is trying to be very very careful with every word.
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Thu Jul-24-08 08:17 AM
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69. It's better than listening to MY FRIENDS this and MY FRIENDS that.. |
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every other fucking word....:argh:
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Thu Jul-24-08 08:20 AM
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70. It's the sign of a man who knows the media is out to get him. |
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He thinks very carefully about everything he says to avoid saying anything that could potentially be taken out of context.
When he gets into rhythm on a topic he loses the 'uh's.
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