So evidently Frank Luntz must be a good pollster after all

[grantcart]

Had a meeting and missed everything.


Massive traffic jam in LA so when I get home all that's on is Anderson Cooper, Hannity and Colmes and MSNBC catching idiot pedophile wannabees.


Anderson Cooper: "Well it was a huge crowd and he sounded great but was it presumptious". Click.

MSNBC: "And here is Robert Fuller whose chatroom name is 'fullofyou'". Click

Anderson Cooper: "Are you sure you didn't find it preumptious? Well lets go to a surrogate of the McCain cam . ." Click

MSNBC: "Oh come in I made brownies for you. . . " Click

Anderson Cooper: " . .sure its presump". Click

MSNBC: "Just talk and I thought she was 18". Click

Anderson Cooper: " . presemp". Click

H&C Frank Luntz "Not only was he eloquent but his remarks are substantive. He is setting a vision for a new unified Western alliance that takes the best of the Marshall Plan with the best of Eisenhower and Kennedy. It wasn't that it was a beautiful image of a confident American that made it so appealing it was that it there was a new generation of Europeans that were responding to an American Statesman.

Colmes: "So you didn't see it as a publicity stunt?"

Luntz "No because he had already established that re-establishing a vigorous diplomatic effort was going to be an important part of his candidacy - he is showing us how he is going to do it."

Colmes: "He took a big chance saying America isn't perfect"

Luntz: "Well but the way that he did it was perfect. America has always known that we aren't perfect but he did it by saying that we didn't live up to the high goals that we established - making our promise perfect even if our practice wasn't and then while that was settling in he spoke of how much he loved his country and you could see, hear and feel his voice crack. It wasn't a hit or a home run or even a grand slam home run it was a game ending 9th inning 7th game of the world series grand slam home run".

Hannity: Yes well how do you match that up with what Michelle said on February 12th ." Click

Anderson Cooper: "Now we go to Annette Stevens author of 'Presumptious Acts by Americans Overseas". Click

MSNBC: "chatroom name 'besttongueofSanAntonio" Click

Hannity: ". . San Francisco when he said Americans were clinging. "

The Animal Channel "and the happy mother Grizzly patiently watches . . . . . . . .


Me thinking: For Frank Luntz to bite the Hannity that has been feeding him can only mean one thing; He has been reading the polls and taking his own polls and he knows where this country is going for the next 8 years, that can be the only explanation.

Me thinking: When Fox News is the only place you can find intelligent discussion of Obama's trip there is only one thing to do.

Me: "Honey do we have anything with alcohol to drink?'




(Luntz's statement is only a rough reflection of what he was saying but he was damned good and made me completely fuckbrained about the whole thing.)

[Cha]

1. I find that bizare that

Frank Luntz says something intelligent about Obama's trip.

"Frank Luntz "Not only was he eloquent but his remarks are substantive. He is setting a vision for a new unified Western alliance that takes the best of the Marshall Plan with the best of Eisenhower and Kennedy. It wasn't that it was a beautiful image of a confident American that made it so appealing it was that it there was a new generation of Europeans that were responding to an American Statesman.

Colmes: "So you didn't see it as a publicity stunt?"

Luntz "No because he had already established that re-establishing a vigorous diplomatic effort was going to be an important part of his candidacy - he is showing us how he is going to do it."

Colmes: "He took a big chance saying America isn't perfect"

Luntz: "Well but the way that he did it was perfect. America has always known that we aren't perfect but he did it by saying that we didn't live up to the high goals that we established - making our promise perfect even if our practice wasn't and then while that was settling in he spoke of how much he loved his country and you could see, hear and feel his voice crack. It wasn't a hit or a home run or even a grand slam home run it was a game ending 9th inning 7th game of the world series grand slam home run"."


Colmes doesn't sound very smart.."a publicity stunt"?

[grantcart]

3. well they weren't quotes but Colmes was throwing him soft pitches and

Luntz was very perceptive and enthusiastic.

Colmes gets paid for not sounding very smart.

[Cha]

4. Oh I get it...the words you gave

Luntz were gold!

[grantcart]

5. I was to shocked to even try and remember what he was saying

so those are my words


but he was not being shy about his high approval of Obama in Germany, Iraq and Israel.

[Cha]

8. Amazing...and your

analysis of why does sound like the only explaination.

[grantcart]

6. Oh but fucking Anderson Cooper part was a virtual quote lol

[Whisp]

18. did ChickenCoop slip in any Rev Wright references? that's his turettes syndrome thing.

[DarthDem]

2. Luntz Jumping on the Bandwagon!

Very funny commentary. Thanks.

[kevinmc]

7. Hannity: Yes well how do you match that up with what Michelle ........

I don't have cable and have never heard this ASS. I have read enough about him that he has to be one of the dumbest people on Cable TV.

[NYC_SKP]

9. So, clearly "To Catch a Predator" was the least trashy of the shows...

I caught some of the Hannity Colmes show and heard Lutz, good exchange, then Hannity going on about European style blah blah blah.

I also caught AC's silly act, "was it presumptuous?" crap, which goes nicely with his history of deep probing factfinding questions. :sarcasm:

Sometimes the predator show is superior, but I can't stay with any of these three for very long.

I usually end up on the Food Network.

:donut:

[grantcart]

13. we usually end up with the animal network lol

[cliffordu]

10. Did I accidentally get high???

[grantcart]

12. you don't use gasoline you just sniff it lol

[cliffordu]

15. Yeah, that's how I use fifty bucks worth a year......

[grantcart]

16. lol

[TexasObserver]

11. Great summary of what CNN and MSNBC are often like.

CNN never stops trying to undermine Obama.

MSNBC runs two themes when it's not running news: Sex predators and Prisons.

GE is a big player in private prisons, which is how they get all their footage. They're marketing their product by running those prison segments. "See, you need a prison for all these really bad people!" They don't show the half of the prisoners there for drug possession.

[tishaLA]

14. Luntz has had a crush on Obama for a while now

So he's not fulfilling the role Sean expect of him. Luntz said it won't work to paint him as un-American because Obama is the representation of everything good about America. Luntz said it won't work to paint Obama as elitist when it doesn't fit his biography.

He also said he'd hoped all his life for an Obama to come along. And then, dammit, when he finally came along he was a Democrat.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

17. Wow. A Repub pollster actually pointed out "elitist" doesn't fit his biography.

End times must be upon us.