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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:24 PM
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"Press love affair with Obama is over." WTF does that mean?
I am increasingly becoming wary, nervous and genuinely concerned about the press/media in general. Obama's campaign fights back, his campaign calls the press on their lies, so now he's the bad guy? One of America's most treasured institutions through the years (from what I learned in school that is), was the newspaper, radio and television journalism. I see this institution crumbling before my very eyes.

Of course the Obama campaign is going to start "shutting" them out and calling them on the distortions. I am so disgusted, but I'm also fearful of the impact this has on the low info voter. McCain goes on a whining binge and they crumble and coddle him. I marvel that the pundits can mouth what they do without cracking up laughing at themselves. They look and act foolish. Professionalism has left the building. I put my TV on later and later each day for fear I'll be exposed to the snarkiness and lies of a David Gregory, the inane comments of Matthews (and he wants to run for the Senate? Dear God). My only salvation is Keith and Rachel, and if I'm in the mood, Dan Abrams. How many e-mails can one send? Thoughts?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:25 PM
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1. That just started today
:wtf:

I read HuffPo first thing this morning and it was Press love affair w/ Obama over"

When was it ever begun?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:29 PM
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4. The press is interested in covering Obama. But that coverage hasn't always been flattering.
It's true that Obama is a more interesting story than McCain, largely because he's new and McCain has been around since the 80's. But all of those extra scrutiny on Obama hasn't been helpful.

It's funny how quickly these people seem to forget the feeding frenzy that was Pastorgate. If that month didn't disprove the "media is in the tank for Obama" theory, I don't know what will.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 03:11 PM
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26. What? Now we'll hear how Michelle picked her nose? (nt)
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:25 PM
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2. Obama doesn't need the press..
he just drew a crowd of anywhere between 200,000 to 500,000 in Germany. He could do the same here in a heartbeat. Maybe that's what scares them so?
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:33 PM
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8. sorry
but you're incorrect. obama does need the press. the fact that he drew 200,000 people is impressive, unfortunately most of those
people can't vote in our elections. obama is going to need to the support of voters in flyover swingstates, and if the msm decides to swift boat him, then he's in trouble. imo it doesn't help when mathews says idiotic things like getting a tingle down his leg when obama speaks. i wish they would stick to his message.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:37 PM
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10. If he needs the American mainstream media to carry his water..
in order to win, then he is screwed, because it isn't going to happen. I personally don't think he does.
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griffi94 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:48 PM
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13. they shouldn't carry water
for either candidate, but if they turn on him and start giving validation to groups like the swift boats (or puma)
and start the subtle,at first,memes of he feels like he's already potus because the germans like him. or he's really an arrogant elitists off camera and he did so well at first because of a favorable bias.
they can in fact hurt him in flyover country. i wish they would stick to factual reporting of his message and how he intends to carry it out.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:58 PM
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14. I do too, but we know that's not going to happen..
I think Obama has the potential at least to rise above this through shear personality and charisma, neither Kerry nor Gore had that.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:48 PM
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23. Unless we stop repeating the media spin about our past nominees
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 03:08 PM by politicasista
The media said Gore was a bore in 2000 (despite the fact that he is funny). Kerry had charisma in 2000, but Kerry was a "social loner" and didn't have charisma in 2004 (despite people here that have met him that say the opposite).

That's how the media frames our candidates and we help them by repeating their spin.

In addition to the political climate we are living in, the big difference is that Obama is getting the defense from Dems. Much more than Gore and Kerry got. Obama is going to need more than just charisma and political skills to win. Obama needs us to be the media, he can't do it by himself. We have to keep hammering his strengths, not give into the media spin like the past.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 05:46 PM
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27. I'm with you all the way....n/t
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:25 PM
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3. WHO said, "Press love affair with Obama is over"??
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 12:36 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:39 PM
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11. Sorry, an article in the HuffPo. I didn't post it 'cause I always do
it wrong...
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:29 PM
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5. It means they are going to finally report on Rev Wright
<OPE>
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:33 PM
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9. No kidding. I hope that this piece is right. The "love" of the press is like "Dord"
From bugs bunny... Love my ass. Go spread some love to McPoopypants for once.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:30 PM
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6. The right is going to spin everything and anything it can against him
So they start by spinning the press reacting to the obvious attention generation that Obama is creating overseas as the press loving him. The implication is of course that the media is left wing biased and are pumping Obama up. This just confirms what many on the right have believed for some time now (all the way back to Nixon's time). It also places pressure on the press as they are always nervous about appearing biased as the right has claimed.

The only reason the press followed Obama like puppies is that he is generating attention. Lots of it. And the press craves attention. Imagine if the press followed McCain around with as much focus as they did Obama this past week. It would have been horrible for McCain and boring for the media. The right is just trying to spin things to its advantage.

So the next stage is of course the press trying to balance itself in order to avoid any signs of bias. And they can either focus on McCain(boring) or they can try to topple the man they just placed on a pedestal. Guess which route they are likely to take.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:33 PM
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7. I guess you're right, am still hating it....lol.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 12:44 PM
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12. YEP !!!
Three things relative to "balance"...

1) They are corporate owned, and as such, they have to either cater to OR not attack corporate interests ...
2) "Journalism" has LONG gone out the window, replaced by lifestyle - being "in" is more important than safeguarding the third estate and journalistic integrity ... For whatever reasons, coddilng up to republicans makes these pukebags more "in" than being journalists ... This means they either have to directly spout the republican line OR at worst, hack away at Ds ... It is a forgiveable sin to not be an overt water carrier, but you HAVE to paint Ds negatively, or your career is in danger ...
3) AT BEST, they are spineless pukebags ... That is the best that can be said, or maybe even more frighteningly stupid that they appear ... But, best that can be said is that they have given in to the incessant chant of right wingers about how the MSM is liberal leaning, and feel compeled to "balance" their coverage ...

Either way, as you noted, they are going to Pastorbate BO at least two more times between now and November ...
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:04 PM
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15. It is already happening in an email I got today
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 6:18 AM

I don't know each of your personal political convictions, and apologize if anyone finds this offensive. I thought it was important enough to share. This is Jeff's first hand view of Senator Obama.
Tiffany

Hello everyone,
As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass along that Senator Osama came to Bagram Afghanistan for about an hour on his visit to 'The War Zone'. I wanted to share with you what happened. He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is the commander here at Bagram.

As the Soldiers were lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and didn't say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell (pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play basketball or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the
opportunity to talk to Soldiers to thank them for their service.

So really he was just here to make a showing for the American's back home that he is their candidate for President. I think that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here you would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are providing for you.

I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the Dallas Cowboy Cheer leaders than from Senator, who wants to be the President of the United States . I just don't understand how anyone would want him to be our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and our great country.

If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he really is. What you see in the news is all fake.

In service,
CPT Jeffrey
TF XXXXXXXX
American Soldier



Is there any other reports like this from Bagram??
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:21 PM
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16. Army officials have refuted this....
Army officials refute claim of Barack Obama snub in Afghanistan
By James Gordon Meek
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

Updated Friday, July 25th 2008, 10:05 AM

WASHINGTON - The latest chain e-mail smear against Barack Obama: He "blew off" troops at an Afghan base to shoot hoops for a publicity photo.

The letter was apparently written by a Utah Army National Guard intelligence officer in a linguist unit at Bagram Airfield who claimed the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee was rude to G.I.s.

snip

"These comments are inappropriate and factually incorrect," said Bagram spokeswoman Army Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green, who added that such political commentary is barred for uniformed personnel.

Obama didn't play basketball at Bagram or visit the Clamshell, she said. Home-state troops were invited to meet him, but his arrival was kept secret for security reasons.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/07/24/2008-07-24_army_officials_refute_claim_of_barack_ob.html




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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:26 PM
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18. I sent the story back to the one whom sent the email
Thanks!!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:57 PM
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25. I stopped reading after Senator Osama..
it's obviously a right wing planted smear.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:25 PM
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17. Does anyone else see the similarities to the primary?
Obama's opponent complains about media favoritism. The media buys it hook line and sinker and starts to go very negative on Obama. This is another thing on the long list of similarities to the Dem primary.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:27 PM
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19. Yes, the press love affair with Obama is over. Just like my affair with Angelina Jolie is.
Over, as in "never existed in the first goddamn place".
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:21 PM
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20. It's because we are not calling them out in public.
When we see interviews being conducted, we should be making noise, and holding the reporters feet to the fire. We've been far too passive with press events.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:32 PM
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21. Some Republican rat-teeth operative was on Morning Joe yesterday
and very ominiously intoned something to the effect that "The press was about to turn on Obama." We need to be vigilant. I was going to post this yesterday but was busy and didn't get around to doing it.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:33 PM
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22. During the primary, they said they were being rough on Obama but would be even-handed
during the GE campaign. So this is another lie to cover up their first lie.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:56 PM
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24. means they think he might win n/t
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