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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:31 PM
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Right Wing attacks Obama for being too ...... popular.
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 01:31 PM by marmar
Here's a good post on this from Hullabaloo:



Hullabaloo



Thursday, July 24, 2008

Political Participation - The Real Fascism

by dday

Jesse Taylor at Pandagon had a remarkably insightful piece today about the wingnut carping over the Barack Obama speech in Berlin, the media reaction, and his popularity generally. I really think this is important to understand. The right has always held a goal of minimizing political participation; normally this is done through voter suppression, onerous voter ID or ballot access laws, and generally disenfranchising those for whom it is hardest to engage in the process. Now they've taken it a step further, basically planting the seed that ANY participation whatsoever, not just voting but showing up for a rally or working a phone bank or donating money, is toxic and inherently fascistic. Because their deficit in this election year is enthusiasm, they're trying to make such support and excitement untenable. Behold:

But what (author of Liberal Fascism Jonah) Goldberg has done is provide intellectual cover for a growing meme: Obama is the leader of a new fascist revolution. Why, you may ask? Well, it’s all got to do with the defining downward of fascism towards a gooey puddle that virtually anyone not a movement conservative can step in.

The Goldbergian view of fascism (and I’m sure he’ll deny it, which will then be followed by a criticism of my argument, which will in turn be fascist, which will in turn be the exact point he was trying make) is that the marriage of any measurable popularity whatsoever to any state action whatsoever outside the boundaries of Reaganite conservatism is de facto fascist. The point was never to explore fascism or provide an analysis of the phenomenon that cast new light on it - a feat of which Goldberg was summarily incapable - but instead to provide the exact utility we see on display now, and provide a way to brand any popular Democrat or liberal as the handmaiden of evil.

In a way, Goldberg lucked out (but he’s used to that) - Obama’s popularity and McCain’s plodding campaign provide the perfect stand-in for his argument. A Republican candidate with any stature, any devotion from the base, anyone who’s invested in seeing him elected for reasons that extend beyond his party affiliation, and it’s entirely ruined. A boring Republican running a bad campaign (Bob Dole, Gerald Ford) inevitably creates a fascist Democrat, not by anything they’ve said or done but by the simple act of showing up and not being a dumbass.


Yep. And because McCain is running such an awful campaign, conservatives must then rationalize that there's something deeply wrong with the popular and competent campaign that Barack Obama is running. And so he becomes a leader of a fascist movement. His creation of fliers for his Berlin event in the language of the country where he's appearing becomes proof. So does the location of the event in front of a Nazi monument. And his head is tilted in profile in the picture - just like Hitler! Because electoral history has shown that imitating Hitler is a surefire vote-getter. Those supporters are being lured by music and food they have to pay for into worshipping this false idol who will lead us down a path to destruction.

But that's all subtext, of course. The idea is to create the connection between large crowds and enthralled supporters in the 1930s and in the Obama campaign today. And that is meant to induce feelings of revulsion and shame, not just in those voters who are more passive and see these images on television, but among the very participants themselves. Going to an Obama rally? You're a mindless pawn. Send him money? You are funding a cult. Work on his behalf? You have drank the Kool-Aid and are pathologically creepy. .......(more)

The complete piece is at: http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/political-participation-real-fascism-by.html




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Waya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:35 PM
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1. Every time I think the Repuke bunch......
........can't get anymore ludicrous - they surprise me......sheeeeeeesh!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:38 PM
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2. the "Goldbergian" view!
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 01:38 PM by depakid
:rofl:

Hint for the knuckleheads:

The man is literally delusional, and wouldn't have a job were it not for his mommy.

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:44 PM
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3. What's next?
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:48 PM
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4. Good Article - RW Theme - Participation In The Democratic Process Is Fascist
When Republicans rally around a popular leader (Reagan) its okay. However, when Democrats do so, and encourage voter participation, that is facist. I guess voter suppression and intimidation by the GOP will now be okay because they are just fighting facism.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:49 PM
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5. This must remind them of Hitler too then....


When will they start ripping on the fundies? :shrug:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:53 PM
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6. This was a tactic during the primary: cast his popularity in a negative, even sinister light
and mock anyone who dares feel an inclination to support him, or even listen to him or attend an event appearance, as weak-minded "cultists".
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:56 PM
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7. The right wing would be having a circle jerk if McCain went overseas and got that reception.
Obamas visit looked like a State visit, he looked Presidential and that's what they hate.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:11 PM
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8. I have read this
view from the crazy repukes that post on Usenet.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:17 PM
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9. The Pub Idiots have learned much from Hitlers Propaganda Crew
Brainwashing in Full ON Mode....Truth is their Enemy...Falsehood is their Friend...

Can they not see the Follies of Brainwashing? Sooner or Later...Truth breaks out of Prison and Goodness Reigns the Land.
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SpookyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:18 PM
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10. Goldberg is an imbecile.
It's amazing that this mental midget is given a forum. Sad.

When he was on Daily Show, he could barely form a coherent thought, and didn't even attempt to defend his own words.

This is what passes for discourse now, these hateful and in many cases, truly stupid water carriers. I just makes me tired.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:24 PM
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11. This from the folks who require loyalty oaths to attend padded functions
Allllll-righty, then! :eyes:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:25 PM
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12. It's like the primaries all over again.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:35 PM
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13. Ron Brownstein wrote an article for the National Journal
that also says the right wing will likely attack Obama because he's too popular in Europe.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25846466/
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