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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 01:52 PM
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Obama Memo: American people looking for serious debate...McCain only offers angry, false accusations
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 01:59 PM by jefferson_dem
Pitch perfect. Take the high road to counter McGrumpy GolfCart's "get off my grass" rantings...


Obama Camp Response to McCain GI Forum Speech

“The American people are looking for a serious debate about the way forward in Iraq and Afghanistan, and angry, false accusations will do nothing to accomplish that goal. Barack Obama and John McCain may differ over our strategy in Iraq, but they are united in their support for our brave troops and their desire to protect this nation. Senator McCain’s constant suggestion otherwise is not worthy of the campaign he claimed he would run or the magnitude of the challenges this nation faces,” said Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton.

Fact Check on McCain Speech to the American GI Forum

McCain Rhetoric on Iraq: “From the early days of this war, I feared the administration was pursuing a mistaken strategy, and I said so.”

The Facts: During the “early days of the war,” McCain offered rosy predictions, not criticism of the Bush administration:

· EARLY 2003: MCCAIN PREDICTED A SHORT WAR IN IRAQ, SAYING “WE WILL BE WELCOMED AS LIBERATORS”

McCain: Predicted a “Brief, Successful War In Iraq.” In March 2003, just prior to the start of military operations in Iraq, McCain said on the floor of the Senate, “The costs of these enterprises are not known with any degree of certainty at this time. Nor are the costs we will incur after what I believe, what I fervently, hope, will be a brief, successful war in Iraq, as we seek to establish the foundations for a peaceful, stable and democratizing Iraq.” McCain also added, “I believe the war in Iraq can be concluded successfully in a relatively brief time.”

McCain Proclaimed “There’s No Doubt In My Mind…That We Will Be Welcomed As Liberators.” “There’s no doubt in my mind that once these people are gone that we will be welcomed as liberators,” McCain said on MSNBC’s Hardball in March 2003.

McCain: Iraq War Will Be “Relatively Short.” During a March 2003 interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” McCain said, “I believe that this conflict is still going to be relatively short. I believe we’ve achieved significant goals and successes.”

McCain: End of Iraq War “Very Much In Sight.” In interview on ABC’s Good Morning America, McCain was asked “At what point will America be able to say the war was won?” McCain replied. “We’ve still got the oil fields in the north that have to be secured. Tikrit, Saddam Hussein’s hometown, I would imagine there’ll be some die hards there that, but I think that we, it, it’s clear that the end is very much in sight, and today I think Americans should be very proud of their leadership, their technology…There are still some foreigners, Syrians and others hanging around. But it won’t be long. It will be a fairly short period of time, but this happens in wars. I’m confident that once they are confident the area is no longer a threat to the Marines and to or army troops that they’ll start imposing discipline. In the meantime, we’ll have a short period of chaos.”

McCain Said He Was “Sure” The End Of Conflict In Iraq Was Near. During an appearing on “Lou Dobbs Moneyline,” McCain was asked, “Is it your judgment that we are near the end of this conflict?” McCain replied, “Oh, I’m sure that’s true.”

· Summer 2003: McCain Said the “Major Conflict” Was Over In Iraq

McCain: “The Major Conflict” Is Over. McCain said in 2003, “I have said a long time that reconstruction of Iraq would be a long, long, difficult process, But the conflict, the major conflict is over … The regime change is accomplished.”

McCain Proclaimed “Massive Victory” in Iraq and Credited Combat-Readiness for “Our Victory” in Afghanistan and Iraq. “Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom demonstrated to the world what we saw just 12 years ago. We went to war as the most combat-ready force in the world. The value of that readiness is clear. We won a massive victory in a few weeks, and we did so with very limited loss of American and allied lives. We were able to end aggression with minimum overall loss of life, and we were even able to greatly reduce the civilian casualties of Afghani and Iraqi citizens. . . . Our technology edge in Afghanistan and Iraq would have been meaningless if we did not have men and women trained to use it. Having the best weapons system platforms in the world would not have given us our victory if we had not had the right command and control facilities, maintenance capabilities, and munitions.”

McCain: The Mission Is “Accomplished.” In an interview with Salon.com. McCain said, “I just think — as I said — I think we will find weapons of mass destruction. Now, I think it’s entirely appropriate now that regime change has been orchestrated — and though the danger is certainly not over, the mission is ‘accomplished’ — it’s appropriate to have a hearing.”

McCain Rhetoric on Veterans: “Whatever our commitments to veterans cost, we will keep them, as you have kept every commitment to us.”

The Facts: McCain has repeatedly opposed increased funding for veterans health care, and against funding for our troops:

· MCCAIN REPEATEDLY VOTED AGAINST, AND OBAMA REPEATEDLY VOTED FOR, INCREASED FUNDING FOR MILITARY EQUIPMENT FOR OUR TROOPS

Obama Voted For And McCain Voted Against $360 Million for Armored Vehicles for Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. In 2005, Obama voted for and McCain voted against providing $360.8 million for armored tactical wheeled vehicles for units deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan and $5 million to establish ballistics engineering research centers at two major research institutions. The measure against which McCain voted also required such centers to advance knowledge and application of ballistics materials and procedures to improve the safety of land-based military vehicles.


READ REST HERE --- http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-response-to-mccain-gi-forum-speech/
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:10 PM
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1. McCain's speech needs to be shown as the web of lies it is.
His flowing attack of confusion is to blind us, from the need to pull out of our countries long nosedive.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:14 PM
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2. This needs to be a campaign ad. 24/7 the corporate media hacks are calling McCain a foreign
Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 02:15 PM by Skwmom
policy expert and Obama inexperienced. The American Public needs to be reminded of what an inept idiot John McCain really is (oh make that an inept, idiotic, angry, old man who will use wounded soldiers b/c he will do anything to get elected).

The ad should also include the corporate media calling McCain an expert.
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:15 PM
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3. This should get no less than 100 recs
Seriously, this is strong stuff.

McLame is a liar and a moron.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 02:16 PM
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4. I'll rec to that!
:thumbsup:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 03:38 PM
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5. k&r. Perfect as usual. nt
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progressive_realist Donating Member (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 04:14 PM
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6. I really hope the Obama campaign is preparing
For autumn an ad specifically highlighting McCain's hypocrisy and lousy voting record on veterans' issues. McCain makes so many bald-faced lies about his support for veterans, he needs to be called out on it. Very publicly and directly.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 04:25 PM
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7. Yippee-kai-yay, motherfuckers.
Thank you to Bill Burton for hitting that one out of the park.
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