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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 03:52 PM
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Whose War Is It? Hitting "the Switch" enabled "the Surge".
Despite the best efforts of George W. Bush and John McCain to sabotage it; yes the Surge worked. It worked because most people inside Iraq now really believe that the United States will be leaving Iraq soon. No thanks to President Bush on that score; since the President still refuses to rule out a permanent U.S. presence in Iraq. And no thanks to Senator McCain either who publicly muses that the U.S. military may stay in Iraq for a hundred years if necessary. The Surge, a decision to send 30,000 more American soldiers into Iraq, could easily have been viewed by Iraqi citizens as evidence of American re-entrenchment .in their homeland. .And who could have blamed them?

Most Republican leaders remain loath to give Iraq's citizens any concrete assurances that the American military occupation will be short lived. Instead the Bush Administration acts like the Green Zone in Baghdad is the Panama Canal Zone resurrected or perhaps our new Guantanomo Bay. Where does the Bush Administration get the authority to argue with Iraq's government over how soon it can ask the U.S. to withdraw our forces? Why on Earth is the largest U.S. Embassy on Earth being constructed in Iraq today, if America's role in Iraq tomorrow was destined to be minimal? Whose war is it, anyway?

John McCain would have us believe that at root this is America's war, one that "we" can't afford to lose, and for years the policies of the Bush Administration led many Iraqis to reach the same conclusion. And during those years large numbers of Iraq's home bred citizens fought tenaciously against what they perceived as an American neo -colonial military occupation of their homeland. As it is throughout the Middle East, nationalist as well as religious sentiments remain strong inside Iraq. Deeply rooted suspicions that the United States sought a geographic long term military foothold in Iraq fueled armed resistance to America's armed forces stationed inside of Iraq.

Seemingly unbeknownst to George W. Bush, the U.S. military presence inside Iraq crossed the line of diminishing returns. The open ended nature of our military commitment in Iraq beget open ended armed resistance to a U.S. long term presence there. Even among those Iraqi factions not adamant that the U.S. withdraw post haste, a distant hazy horizon for an eventual American pull back dulled any sense of the urgency needed to make the difficult compromises required to bring about real national reconciliation for Iraq. While the U.S. remained committed to clamping an external safety lid on Iraq's civil violence, jockeying for leverage for ultimate future power became a higher priority for Iraq's domestic warring factions than accommodating the agendas of internal potential political and religious adversaries.

But something happened to change that deadly status quo inside Iraq, something that fortunately predated "the surge". Call it the Iraqization of Iraq's ongoing civil war. Call it a dawning realization inside of Iraq that the American public would not allow the American government to keeping sending American men and women to their death inside Iraq for very much longer. Call it "the switch". Call it Iraq's war now.

Does Iraq face real and potential foreign foes? Of course it does, we are after all talking about the Middle East. But the primary Iranian incentive to destabilize Iran turns out to be Iran's opposition to a permanent U.S. military foothold being established on their border inside Iraq. And Al Quada in Iraq has ceased to be the dominant destabilizing force active inside of Iraq. Al Quada lost the upper hand with the Anbar Awakening of Iraq Sunnis, which even John McCain knows by now happened before "the surge".

Sheik al-Rishawi is widely credited with being the primal force behind the start of the Anbar Awakening. According to a Washington Post article dated Sunday, March 25, 2007:

"...Al-Rishawi founded the Anbar Salvation Council in September (2006) with dozens of Sunni tribes. Many of the new newly friendly leaders are believed to have at least tacitly supported the insurgency in the past, though al-Rishawi said he never did.

"I was always against these terrorists," al-Rishawi said in an interview inside his American-guarded compound, adjusting a pistol holstered around his waist. "They brainwashed people into thinking Americans were against them. They said foreigners wanted to occupy our land and destroy our mosques. They told us, 'We'll wage a jihad. We'll help you defeat them.'"

The difficult part was convincing others it wasn't true, and that "building an alliance with the Americans was the only solution," al-Rishawi said."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2007/03/25/AR2007032500600. html

Central to convincing Iraqi's, many of whom had previously supported the insurgency against U.S. troops, that Americans were not interested in occupying Iraq and "destroying mosques" was evidence mounting back inside America that the American people wanted the U.S. out of Iraq as soon as possible, and that the U.S. government was starting to change in response to public pressure. Throughout the summer and fall of 2006 the race to control Congress hinged on Democrats campaigning nationally to bring an end to the open ended commitment to of forces to Iraq with firm timelines for U.S. withdrawal.

The previously improbable scenario of Democrats wresting both Houses of Congress away from Republican control in 2006 became reality, and world wide that shift in Congress was perceived as a mandate for Democrats to establish a timeline for a U.S. military withdrawal from Iraq".

That shift preceded "the surge", and that shift enabled "the surge" to later succeed Regardless of John McCain's poor vision, the handwriting has clearly been on the wall, both in America and in Iraq. The U.S. is very unlikely to remain in Iraq for 100 years. The U.S. is unlikely to remain in Iraq for two years after the November Presidential election, with the public mood strongly supporting Democratic chances. All throughout the prolonged contest to determine the Democratic presidential nominee, all of the leading Democratic candidates were firmly on record supporting a timeline for U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. Whether Clinton or Obama, there was never any doubt what position the U.S. would take with a new Democratic President in 2009.

And that's why the surge worked. The wrong message didn't get sent. The surge was not mistaken as indicative of a U.S. resolve to remain inside Iraq for as long as it took for America to achieve its national strategic interests inside of Iraq, whatever they might be. Instead "the surge" was rightfully viewed as a final stop gap effort by a lame duck Republican Administration to give Iraq's leaders the breathing room they needed to come to grips with the fact that it is Iraq's war to win now, not America's. And with a Democratic Presidency looming on the near political horizon, the time for Iraqi's to get their own house in order was and remains: Now.

It took that switch in attitude to enable our additional troops to do what was asked of them with "the surge", and do it they did, very well indeed. That's because Iraq isn't listening to George W. Bush now, nor to John McCain. It is listening to Barack Obama, and counting the months until a complete U.S. withdrawal from its sovereign state.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 03:59 PM
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1. Tom, could you say what you mean by "the surge worked"?
And I mean, literally. By what measure? I'm not disagreeing, but am not sure I know what you mean or what your yardstick is.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 04:11 PM
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3. By a minimal political and military standard
But my main point is that it would not only have failed but been counter productive were it not for the Democratic Party driven shift in attitude toward the long term outlook of a major American military presense inside Iraq.

It was never seriously argued, initially, that 30,000 additional U.S. troops could bring civil order to a nation as large and divided as Iraq given thast 120.000 U.S. troops were totally inadaquate to that task, which they were. The surge quickly became an (unsustainable) effort to provide a minimal level of security against violence centered in Iraq's capital, helping to provide some breathing room for political operatives to do the deal making and trust building needed to achieve some semblence of Iraqi political unity.

U.S. troops are well trained and effective, they can make a limited security difference just like doubling the size of a police force in a U.S. city can make a difference. Any positive that the surge was capable of doing, at best, was always minor and completely dependent on Iraqi political and religious forces having sufficient motivation to work together among themselves to make a priority of civil security in Iraq. That takes political will and a sense of urgency sufficient to put aside differences and make difficult compromises. Some of that arguably has been happeniung, but I don't think that is primarily driven by the surge, I think it's driven by the growing realization inside of Iraq that America's days there are tightly numbered, and they have to get on with deciding what type of country they want to be left living in.

But it is foolish to claim that some more well trained military forces can't dampen down some localized violence given an atmosphere in which many of the major players are cooperative. Almost but not quite as foolish as claiming that the surge pushed the political process inside of Iraq. Our pending exit has done that.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 04:18 PM
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5. Okay. I agree about the Iraqis realizing Bush is on the way out --
that makes sense to me.

But, I've seen no objective measure that dumping more troops in Iraq made anything better. I'm looking for that.

We know that Petraeus was handing out money. It's also true that before the "surge" there were a couple of thousand doctors still in Iraq where after the surge, the number had dwindled to a few hundred.

So, when people claim or assume the surge "worked", the question "how so?" needs to be asked.

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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 04:28 PM
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6. Mostly I am proposing this as a Democratic talking point
I think we get sucked into a no win situation whereby we argue against the effectiveness of American forces while Republicans praise the troops. Whether or not the surge did any good is a minor side show. Knowing that America will pull out of Iraq soon is what is driving progress there now.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 06:27 PM
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7. If your talking points aren't grounded, there's the danger of becoming
LBJ in Viet Nam.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 08:34 PM
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8. I think it's a safe talking point
Saying that the surge played a minor temporary role in helping facilite the permanent transfer of responsibility for security inside of Iraq from America back onto Iraq, and that it could only play that role because the American electorate was sending a clear messages that they want a fixed timeline for America's withdrawal from Iraq I think is a winning stance. It establishs that under any other circumstances the sending of American troops into Iraq would be dangerously couter productive, and that the surge has seen its day and that day is over.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 04:09 PM
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2. Surge or Splurge?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/19/pentagon.surge/index.html

"...Three factors are often cited in explaining the improvement in security: the U.S. troop surge, the political "awakening" of the Iraqi people, and the cease fire ordered by anti-American cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. But some say a controversial fourth dynamic is at play as well -- cash, being doled out by the barrelful.

It's a truth many hold to be self-evident that more American troops translate into less Iraqi violence. As President Bush said in January's State of the Union speech, "Some may deny the surge is working, but among the terrorists there is no doubt." But some military experts do have doubts, arguing there's actually a mightier force at work -- hundreds of millions in cash given to Iraqis, for everything from picking up garbage to taking up arms against al Qaeda.

Retired Army Col. Doug Macgregor, a longtime critic of top Iraq commander Gen. David Petraeus, said it's a "cash-for-peace" scheme that is bound to backfire.

(...)

So that happens when the money dries up? ..."
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-08 04:14 PM
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4. Yup that too
If Iraq is capable of cobbling together even a remotely functional government, and if insurgents are motivated to cooperate, there is plenty of money potentially available to pay some of those bills inside of Iraq by Iraq, given the huge spike in oil prices. If the insurgency continues to wane, Oil production can increase.

It really is there problem now.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 07:57 AM
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9. A weekend kick n/t
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:01 AM
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10. A blast from the past
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:18 AM
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11. Yep to number One. And yep to number Two.
The surge was at best a bit player in this drama that played it's small walk on part well enough, but never was central to the main plot. It's all about the Iraqis now and the decisions they need to make knowing that the Americans are leaving.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 11:27 AM
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12. I didn't realize thqt the link to the WaPo story was broken...
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 01:28 PM
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13. The purpose of the surge was political reconciliation.
To achieve political reconciliation, it was decided that the "surge" AKA escalation would provide security to accomplish that goal. Nobody every argued that the escalation would not produce more security.

Obama is correct in making that not too fine point, and it is incumbent upon us to remind the GOP at every turn that the stated purpose of the surge was providing breathing room for political reconciliation and in that regard it was not successful.

It's important that we not allow the GOP to continue to move goalposts to cover their inept foreign policy.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 01:47 PM
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14. Right. And it is also important that we remind the public
...that Democrats were correct. As long as the U.S. acted as if Iraq would be dependent on U.S. forces providing security for the indefinate future, Iraq remained dependent on U.S. forces, and made little progress toward ending that status. The surge was supposed to help provide added security in the capital to facilitate political reconcilliagtion, but the motivation driving factions inside Iraq to prioritize achieving political reconcilliation was the realiztion that the U.S. is now set on withdrawing from Iraq in the relatively near future.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-26-08 01:49 PM
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15. It seems all the planets are aligned for Obama's Iraq withdrawal plan.
:thumbsup:
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