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Fri Jul-25-08 06:25 PM
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Has any candidate before been warn so much about being cocky or arrogant as Obama has |
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Fri Jul-25-08 06:28 PM
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Fri Jul-25-08 06:28 PM
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2. 2004. Bush was a cocky MF. |
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The media was silent. Go figure.
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Fri Jul-25-08 06:38 PM
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4. Only Will Ferrell noticed. |
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Fri Jul-25-08 06:50 PM
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9. He was cocky in 2000 too |
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Fri Jul-25-08 07:15 PM
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was a cocky little puke ...
Rich, entitled, everything in the world handed to him puke ...
Clear as day ...
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Sat Jul-26-08 08:16 AM
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28. I think it was worse than silence. |
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Admiration. Love-fest. That cocky swagger was admired.
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Fri Jul-25-08 06:34 PM
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3. The cream of the joke is that they were depicting it as a problem for the |
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Democrats!!! When, of course they meant for themselves. In a genuine democracy, where voting isn't a charade, massive, adoring crowds everywhere translates into an electoral landslide victory. The Republican noise-machine has a job on its hands.
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Fri Jul-25-08 07:16 PM
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17. What would have the media done if it had been BO ... |
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pictured in a golf cart with Clinton wearing a turtleneck shirt ???
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Fri Jul-25-08 06:39 PM
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5. Well, he is the first black nominee. |
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They wouldn't want him acting all uppity and out of place.
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Fri Jul-25-08 06:59 PM
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11. Yeah, I'm thinking the mediawhores are |
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soon going to get a big..
"FUCK YOU"
FROM AMERICA!
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Fri Jul-25-08 06:40 PM
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6. What About John McCain? Has He Ever Been Wrong on Foreign Policy? |
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He refuses to concede that the decision to invade Iraq was a mistake. Boneheaded and arrogant if you ask me.
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Fri Jul-25-08 06:44 PM
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7. Yes, that is true, but when was the last time you heard the MSM warn McCain? |
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Fri Jul-25-08 06:50 PM
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some of it has to do with age, I think. And with JFK he was seen as a rich kid elitist. JFK was seen as cocky by the right. The rest of us loved it.
Now you know why Bush wanted to paint himself as a Texan. Somehow rich Texan oil men are different from rich kids from the East. Not sure why but it worked for Bush.
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Fri Jul-25-08 06:55 PM
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10. Their job is to plant the seed in the minds of White America that this "uppity negro" |
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has forgotten his place. The problem is that Obama shot himself in the foot with the "bitter" comment and so now they harken back to that gaffe to justify what they're doing.
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Sat Jul-26-08 08:22 AM
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29. That "bitter" comment is one of the reasons I still hold hope that Obama |
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will be a great president. It assures me that he knows what he's dealing with and is just pandering to the right with some of the recent comments he has made (faith-based initiative, moving the war theatre to Pakistan).
That comment doesn't show that he's arrogant, it shows that he's intelligent. YMMV.
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Fri Jul-25-08 07:01 PM
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12. They don't dare use the word "uppity." This is code. n/t |
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Fri Jul-25-08 07:14 PM
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15. I have to agree. I haven't seen or heard anything suggestive of arrogance w/Obama |
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I do think this is covert racism. But I also thought that when the media and others referred to Sen. H. Clinton as "Hillary" that was a sign of covert sexism.
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Sat Jul-26-08 07:15 AM
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Not all of it, to be sure, as Clinton herself encouraged the use of her first name. But some of the Hillarying was done to remind us that she's a girl, presumably with cooties.
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Sat Jul-26-08 08:16 AM
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He certainly doesn't swagger around like that cocky little twerp occupying the WH now. But when twerp did that, it was cheered. "All-American" "guy you want to have a beer with" and all that crap.
This is code for black guy who thinks he really ought to be taken as seriously as white guys - and how dare he!?
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Fri Jul-25-08 07:12 PM
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13. Well, blacks are supposed to act like whites are doing them a big favor to let them in the room... |
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How dare he behave as if he belonged there all along!
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Fri Jul-25-08 07:13 PM
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14. Exactly! Well stated. n/t |
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Fri Jul-25-08 07:20 PM
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18. No,they think he needs to bow down... |
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as though he is some type of second class citizen. Bush was arrogant,cocky and dumb as hell and that was fine just because he is white..
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Fri Jul-25-08 07:52 PM
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19. GORE! you forget how the media discussed the fact that they loathed him |
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Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 07:53 PM by Gabi Hayes
because they thought that HE acted like he was better than they were
Dana Milbank said so explicitly
CNN's Reliable Sources August 10, 2002 was a genuine eye-opener. Guest Josh Marshall, webmaster of Talking Points, stated, "... I think deep down most reporters just have contempt for Al Gore. I don't even think it's dislike. It's more like disdain and contempt."
None of the talking heads disagreed. Guest Dana Milbank, White House reporter for the Washington Post offered, "You know what it is? I think that Gore is sanctimonious and that's sort of the worst thing in the eyes of the press. And he has been disliked all along and it was because he gives a sense that he is better than us ... as reporters."
thanks to atomic kitten for the above
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Fri Jul-25-08 08:00 PM
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Where have all the journalists gone? The only place where I can find something that vaguely resembles journalism is on the blogs these days.
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Sat Jul-26-08 08:27 AM
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30. Yeah, Gore was definitely given many of the same hurdles |
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Edited on Sat Jul-26-08 08:28 AM by high density
The question is, why is McCain being given a free pass? He is being 10000 times more sanctimonious then the last three Democratic presidential candidates combined. He has clear contempt for the press but the narrative is still written daily to his favor.
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Fri Jul-25-08 07:55 PM
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20. what the call arrogance is really confidence |
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they are either jealous of it, or don't recognize it
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Fri Jul-25-08 08:00 PM
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They're telling Obama outright that he's uppity.
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Fri Jul-25-08 08:04 PM
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23. Smiling genuinely instead of only on cue can be construed as cocky. |
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Look at him. He actually enjoys talking to people. He's SMILING.
After 8 years of Cheney, people are suspect of smilers. :-)
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Sat Jul-26-08 07:28 AM
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25. Media Whores are afraid of a blowout |
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If its a blowout what the hell are they going to cover in late October and the first week of November.
They all want their Russert moment from 2000 and going to bed at 10pm on election night knowing who the next President will be will anger them.
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Sat Jul-26-08 08:14 AM
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26. it's amazing what a young and confident African American man |
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will do to them, isn't it?
I think "arrogant" is now code for something less socially acceptable.
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Sat Jul-26-08 08:29 AM
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31. it truly is the new "uppity" - no question about it - NT |
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Sat Jul-26-08 10:33 AM
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32. I have a question I think relates.... |
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during the Obama administration... will there be a shift in the MSM to a more progressive approach to covering the news?
one that focuses on real issues and not this kind of BS?
Do administrations actually affect that at all?
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Sat Jul-26-08 10:40 AM
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33. I really think the MSM is getting to the point where it has no credibility |
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After hearing about how "arrogant" he is, when they see more of him, the average person will wonder why he was described as "arrogant" and think "he's not arrogant at all, why we they saying that?"
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Sat Jul-26-08 11:50 AM
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34. No, but Obama is a black man. How dare he. |
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I mean really - a black man, candidate for president, travels overseas and is received enthusiastically by throngs of people and world leaders? It's just not right. ;-)
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Sun Jul-27-08 07:08 AM
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36. It's the "uppity negro" phenomenon. |
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Sat Jul-26-08 11:53 AM
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35. A lot of people said that about thim when he ran for US Senate. |
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I think he learned how to deal with that and not come off as too arrogant as much as he used to.
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Sun Jul-27-08 08:18 AM
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37. There’s never been a perfect presidential candidate b4 |
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They have to have something to whine about.
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Sun Jul-27-08 08:23 AM
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38. All the Black ones, it sounds like. "keep your place boy" to me.. I try to tune it out |
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